Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway

3 Tax level

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Norway#Tax_level Norway is not a communist country.

Notability of Utøya mass murder-victims

Are there any of the victims of the Utøya mass murder (that do not have articles) that are notable? At least one of them has an article on Norwegian wiki.

Håvard Vederhus was leader of School Student Union of Norway, 2008-2009. --Hirzflag (talk) 07:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• He is the only one I can think of. Geschichte (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I would rather say that Vederhus is notable for having been leader of Oslo AuF, none of the other leaders of Elevorganisasjonen is notable anyways. And if Vederhus is notable for leading Oslo AuF - Tore Eikeland should be notable for leading Hordaland AuF. But those two victims are the only notable victims I can think of. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:03, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The discussion regarding Tore Eikeland is at [1]. Please do not spread the discussion.--85.166.141.247 (talk) 10:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Non-leader and non-elected by the general public

Here is a link to a deletion discussion about an article about one of the victims,[2].

--85.166.141.247 (talk) 10:33, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

FK Lyn

The elite football group of SFK Lyn, called FK Lyn was bankrupted last year. But the Lyn are back - and will be playing in 2012 Norwegian Third Division. What should we do with the articles?

"FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division"

or

"FK Lyn was bankrupted in 2010, but started to play in 2011 Norwegian Fourth Division" ?

When I read the article about SFK Lyn, it seems clear to that FK Lyn is still bankrupt, and the team playing in next years 3. Division is SFK Lyn or Lyn Fotball.

But anyways - I think the way the FK Lyn article is now, is very misleading. Any thoughts ? Mentoz86 (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

• I haven't looked at the articles but this is correct: FK Lyn was not a club, but was the elite football branch of the multi-sports club SFK Lyn. FK Lyn does not exist anymore. Lyn Fotball is not a club either, but co-existed with FK Lyn as the "low-key" football branch of SFK Lyn, but since mid-2010 it is the only football branch of SFK Lyn. Lyn Fotball does field a men's senior team in the Third Division, following promotion from the Fourth Division in 2011. Geschichte (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

• Yesterday, the user Jolicnikola moved the page from FK Lyn to Lyn Fotball. See here. However, he performed a copy-paste move, so I'm undoing it and waiting for an administrator to move the page. Atleast that's the way I feel is correct. We could also, as stating above, say that "FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division" with two different articles, but I feel thi way Jolicknikola did it is more correct. (Except the copy-paste part) Mentoz86 (talk) 02:46, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if FK Lyn should be touched, since the club actually went bankrupt. Note that SFK Lyn now in some respects (on their own website) calls the men's A and B team "Lyn 1896". Organizationally, it's just called Lyn Fotball still. Geschichte (talk) 12:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• If I'm not mistaken, "FK Lyn" or "FC Lyn Oslo" was established in the 90's or early 2000s like a "elite football club" (toppfotballklubb), like a lot of others Norwegian football clubs have done, to differ from the "youth and amateur club" (breddefotballklubb). That means that most of the clubs achievements (2 leagues, 8 cups ++) were actually won by "SFK Lyn", and makes this a whole lot more difficult. Just as a note, on nowiki, FK Lyn has been moved to Lyn Fotball, but as you said before, "that shouldn't be held up against this as a benchmark", but it gives us an indication. I guess this boils down to whether NFF and SFK Lyn considers the new "Lyn 1896" as holder of the 2 league and 8 cup titles. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, the situation now is that Lyn only has a breddefotball section, but that the club itself divides this into Lyn Fotball (bredde) and Lyn 1896 (top). FK Lyn doesn't really have anything to do with it, but perhaps that article should be shrunk, the history section limited to the years that FC Lyn Oslo/FK Lyn (it was renamed) actually existed, and the rest of the history moved to SFK Lyn or a new article about Lyn Fotball. Geschichte (talk) 13:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

• I notified Jolicnikola about this discussion, but there hasn't been a response yet. But I feel that if we divide the club into three articles, (SFK Lyn, FK Lyn and Lyn Fotball) we are creating an artificial distinction between SFK Lyn and FK Lyn, because FK Lyn was the natural successor of SFK Lyn. I mean, you wouldn't create two different article about Vålerenga IF Fotball and Vålerenga Fotball, just because of a name-change? Creating a new article about the third-division-club Lyn Fotball might be a good idea, and revert the changes about FK Lyn during the last six months, and when we know more we might merge the two articles. The "new" club Odd Grenland is considered a successor of Odd BK, while the new club Sandefjord Fotball is not considered as a successor of Sandefjord BK, even though this is three totally different cases, I have a feeling the NFF would consider Lyn Fotball as a successor of FK Lyn - but we don't know that yet, so I guess there must be two different articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Signpost check

Wikimedia Norway was awarded this week, as covered in the Signpost. However, I don't speak Norwegian, and all of the reference articles are in Norwegian, so I've used Google Translate to collate the information. I would like a native speaker (I assume there are some in this project, no? (= ) to go over it to make sure I didn't omit/embelish/mess up anything, in particular the quotes. Thanks, ResMar 02:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Stortingets spørretime

What is the English name of Stortingets spørretime?--62.92.144.15 (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

stortinget.no uses "Question Time". Regards, --Kjetil_r 09:50, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Rape in Oslo — various procedures of police investigation

I can not find any article (or redirect from) Crime in Norway.

(- Woman, 40 years old, raped inside Hard Rock Café in Oslo — The transgression/abuse happened inside a toilet room)"- Kvinne (40) voldtatt på Hard Rock Café i Oslo — Overgrepet skjedde på et toalett." might be a relevant link.

What section of what article, deals with Crime in Norway? --85.166.141.247 (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

From my point of view, this is WP:NOT; "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Might be sufficient by mentioned this in 2011 in Norway. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Further surfing on wikipedia, leads me to believe that the mentioned link might be relevant in the section regarding Law enforcement in Norway or in the article about Police in Norway. (But of course, relevance would have to be demonstrated in any text accompanying the reference.)--85.166.141.247 (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how a single article about a single rape in a single city has any significance for an article about crime in the whole of Norway in general. There should however be several articles that focus on the bigger picture, whether it's the rape wave, terror readiness, criminal groups from Eastern Europe, funding or whatnot. Those should be more relevant. Ters (talk) 16:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Anon user

I guess we need someone to look after 85.166.141.247's and 85.166.141.237's, edits and make sure he doesn't mess up any article, since he apparently doesn't differ wikipedia and wikinews. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Methinks the IPs are used for soapboxing by the person behind the Sju hav socks. Just take a look at their postings above, asking the same old questions about notability of controversial Norway topics. I've frankly had enough of this incessant trolling and would like to see this page semi-protected. --Eisfbnore • talk 11:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

GA review of Leif Ericson - need some editors to take a look at article

I just provided a GA review for this article. Its main issue is comprehensiveness. I'd like editors familiar with the subject to take a look at the article and make a good effort at expansion with an eye to having good documentation of additional references. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 19:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Air Norway

Air Norway's HQ (address in the Contact Us area) is at "Fosen Næringshage 7130 Brekstad" - Does this mean its head offices are on the property of Fosen Næringshage's at Meieriveien 57130 Brekstad, Norway? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Fosen Næringshage, 7130 Brekstad would be sufficient, but if Fosen Næringshage is located at Meieriveien 5 you can write the adress like that: Fosen Næringshage, Meieriveien 5, 7130 Brekstad. Some Norwegians business differs between "postal adress" and "visiting adress", but in this case it looks like it the same for both. Mentoz86 (talk) 06:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! The address I wanted was the visiting address. Since we have it, we are good to go :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Notability of a Norwegian UNIFIL soldier

This link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Norwegian_soldier_winning_lawsuit_against_Government

is to a wikipedia discussion about the notability of Knut Braa. --Ribroll (talk) 12:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)