Talk:Adele
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Notability
Regarding the deletion proposal, I disagree that she's not notable. She appeared on Later with Jools Holland in June earlier this year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/later/show/) and one of her records (Hometown Glory) was played on 3rd September 2007 on Zane Lowes's Radio 1 music show as his "Hottest Record In The World". There's also an article on The Observer's website about her and Kate Nash (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1992210,00.html) and her MySpace page comes up as the first result in a Google search on "Adele". So I'd say in terms of notability she's certainly on the radar. --82.68.44.150 19:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- This article should be deleted?? I don't think so. She is - if not now, although rapidly becoming - very notable. Tune in, and watch... :) --andreasegde (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
yeah, lol not sure if this two time grammy award winner, brit award winner, record breaking singer is notable . Do you think the person who suggested it was a justin beiber fan lol 2.102.189.212 (talk) 01:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC) She has won 9 Grammy awards.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.17.168 (talk) 15:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- ARE YOU FUCKED? Check the date before commenting you idiot. 99.237.6.129 (talk) 07:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
from Tottenham, South London. It's in North London 78.86.13.170 (talk) 20:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Elise
Label
I'm confused - the label info in the article doesn't gel with that in the infobox. Wwwhatsup (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
"Small Britain gigs"
Has Adele played "small Britain gigs", or small UK gigs? The Baroness of Morden (talk) 22:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC) Okay, I see it has been amended. The Baroness of Morden (talk) 22:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Chasing Pavements
Does anybody know what the hell this means?... I chased a pavement once. I caught up with it immediately. 217.154.153.2 (talk) 11:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- I can't reply to that because this ain't a forum. Just listen to the chorus. Starczamora (talk) 13:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- First of all you can reply to it, get a grip of yourself and secondly Im sure even a pavement could outrun her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.207.65 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's a fair question, and an interpretation of the meaning of the song, particularly if it can be referenced, would not be amiss in the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 04:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- I read in a newspaper interview (although I forget which one, which is useless) that it was about her having an argument with her boyfriend and chasing pavements means to 'run away' in this context —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.72.24 (talk) 19:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Chasing Pavements is one of adele's songs ----AliciaTanROX (talk) 06:04, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- I read in a newspaper interview (although I forget which one, which is useless) that it was about her having an argument with her boyfriend and chasing pavements means to 'run away' in this context —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.72.24 (talk) 19:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's a fair question, and an interpretation of the meaning of the song, particularly if it can be referenced, would not be amiss in the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 04:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- First of all you can reply to it, get a grip of yourself and secondly Im sure even a pavement could outrun her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.207.65 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Bisexual boyfriend?
The Daily Star is used as a source, and tabloids are not particularly desirable sources in BLPs. Thoughts?--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 18:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- I am not really keen on the accuracy of articles on the British press, but it seems like there is a need for further references on that one. Starczamora (talk) 13:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- A bit late with this comment but the primary source is not the Daily Star but a direct quote by Adele herself. It would have been better if she said that to a more mainstream or music news source but that has not happened Edkollin (talk) 21:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Discography
"Adele told Spin Magazine that "He listened to all this amazing country music and we'd rock out late at night" should be "She..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.152.79 (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the whole singles chart was removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jammy2 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Personal life
This is written appallingly. It reads like a PR factsheet and *sigh* 'in a style not appropriate for a respectable encyclopedia like Wikerpedia' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.46.3 (talk) 02:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll second that. It applies to other sections as well. 79.180.229.177 (talk) 14:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. Reference to African-American school is bizarre, as she is English-educated. And the article cited as reference does not support the related sentence at all. ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by K8cruz (talk • contribs) 03:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Platinum status: differing thresholds in US/UK?
The article intro states she was awarded at platinum album for selling 500,000 copies. According to the Recording Industry Association of America, this number is the threshold for Gold status; Platinum status is awarded to an album/single/digital download only after 1M "units" have been moved.
A little history:
The RIAA instituted (and trademarked) the Gold Record in 1958, with the first one being awarded to Perry Como for his single "Catch a Falling Star." The Platinum award was instituted in 1976 for singles/albums selling more than 1M units. In the mid-80s, the RIAA created the Multi-Platinum award for selling for than 2M copies. (for more info see: RIAA Celebrates 50 Years Of Gold Records)
Perhaps the British standard is different? If someone knows, they should add this to the article or at least to the footnote; as well as adding the UK body which gives the awards. Until then, I'm going to change the status for her album 19 from platinum to gold.
If you're interested: here's a list of all artists which have sold more than 10,250,000; that # belonging to (Avril Lavinge with The Beatles at the top with 170,000,000 career units (42M (!) more than No. 2, Garth Brooks) in the US. It also contains some interesting surprises (e.g. especially Frank Sinatra's relatively low total: selling only 500K more units than Rush in a career nearly twice as long). PainMan (talk) 18:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, the thresholds are different, they vary from country to country with the USA having the highest one iirc, but I'm to lazy to find out more about it now. -somebody —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.16.63.194 (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Chasing Pavements wrong meaning clarification
I put in that Adele claimed she was banned from several U.S. radio stations because "Chassing Pavements" was misunderstood as a reference to homosexuality. I took it out as Adele has clarified this on her MySpace blog
"I got told about a quote thats been circling around about me saying chasing pavements got banned from some U.S radio stations because of a "hidden meaning" behind it. (there is no hidden meaning behind it by the way, its just about me running away)
i did say this, partially as a joke! but there was one radio station that wouldn't play it because apparently its slang for anal sex as well...but they are playing it now. and ive been completely misquoted and put out of context with it.
ive read some things saying you lot think i dont feel welcomed in america because of it. i couldnt feel more welcomed in fact. and i'd like you all to know that YOUR support is phenomenal, as is radio and tv too!
im very sorry if any of you got offended in any way by it, i was just answering the question of "hows it going in america?" and obviously they forgot to mention how chuffed i am with whats going on in every way possible! see you all again soon lots of love" Edkollin (talk) 07:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Soul
Just noticed clicking on the Soul genre of music brings you to the main "soul" page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.57.108 (talk) 07:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Name
I think the page should be Adele Adkins, but have Adele (singer)redirect at the this page. --92.17.78.91 (talk) 14:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- I do think that you have a point. Alesha Dixon, Beyoncé Knowles all have their last names, however in their career they go both go just in the names under Alesha and Beyoncé. Due to WP:LASTNAME, i think the page should be moved. --SATURDAYmight. (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- WP:LASTNAME has nothing to do with this topic. Nymf hideliho! 20:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- Adele doesn't go by her last name in her career. Either do Alesha Dixon or Beyoncé, they have their last names on their pages. Adele should have her last name on the page. --SATURDAYmight. (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- That is not an argument. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. You will have to source that Adele uses her last name professionally. For now Adele is the WP:COMMONNAME. Nymf hideliho! 21:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- Adele does use her surname professionally, for example in the credits of her albums' liner notes. 76.201.157.165 (talk) 04:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it should be Adele Adkins. I looked up Adele and it came up with the meaning of the name. I had to click on Adele (singer)----AliciaTanROX (talk) 05:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- Who wants to request for move? ----AliciaTanROX (talk) 06:00, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Date of birth
Which is it? The artiucle currently has both 5th May 1988 and 21st May 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.53.109 (talk) 12:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
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Please discuss at Talk:Adele (name)#Requested move, not here. Station1 (talk) 22:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Why not English?
Why is she listed as British and not English (last time I looked London was in England) when it seems pretty standard practice on Wiki to list people according to whether they're English, Scotish or Welsh. You won't find any Scottish or Welsh figures listed as British.Surely this needs changing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.131.250 (talk) 13:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I thought that British and English were the same. They are, aren't they?----AliciaTanROX (talk) 06:04, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- No, they're not. English people are British but the latter includes a number of other nationalities. See the British people article for an explanation. Adele is both British and English. I don't know if it's official WP policy but there is a tendency to categorise people and things as tightly as possible, so English would seem to be the preferred designation for the subject of this article. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 23:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Then just call her a londoner/londonite and skip the English vs British stuff all-together. | pulmonological talk • contribs 04:52, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- I totally read that as "...just call her a luditer/ludite and skip..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.6.129 (talk) 07:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Then just call her a londoner/londonite and skip the English vs British stuff all-together. | pulmonological talk • contribs 04:52, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- No, they're not. English people are British but the latter includes a number of other nationalities. See the British people article for an explanation. Adele is both British and English. I don't know if it's official WP policy but there is a tendency to categorise people and things as tightly as possible, so English would seem to be the preferred designation for the subject of this article. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 23:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Why the Hell have you got a wikipedia account if you don't know the difference between British and English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.139.212 (talk) 09:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Lead
Chart numbers, chart records and weekly sales do NOT belong in the lead! --12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 16:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I have to agree. I came to the Discussion page solely because I saw the Lead and said, "Boy this seems way too big and disorganized. It's unusual." However, I don't know enough about it to correct it. I don't even know how to sign this comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.73.56 (talk) 14:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
- Can you guys be specific about what does not belong, I'd be happy to sort it out (:
Birth and Origin
How can someones birthplace and "origin" be different places?? By definition you originate from your place of birth. Also, if other websites stating that she was actually born in Enfield are true then strictly speaking she wasn't born in London as Enfield, despite being on the northern border of London doesn't have a London post code and is actually a seperate town. There does seem to be a lot of confusion over exactly where she was born. Her website doesn't give any definitive information in this respect. 82.45.124.228 (talk) 18:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ones birthplace and origin can be different. For example, take Kanye West who was born in Georgia but grew up in and associates with Illinois. Conversely take Ludacris, who was born in Illinois but grew up in and associates with Georgia. That's the difference between one's birthplace and origin. As for Adele, she was born in Enfield, spent her early childhood in Tottenham and most of her pre-teen and teenage years growing up in West Norwood, which is the area she associates with most. Her favorite food is Poop and crapplepies. She thinks americans are mean because of one encounter with the police. She shot one with a tranq gun, but was released due to a concert she had the next day and they knew americans would be dissappointed. and her other best friend is Kyla McDuffer of Orange County, California. Southlondoneye (talk) 08:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Awards
Update the awards section. --84.125.216.218 (talk) 12:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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Bad Picture 72.91.242.46 (talk) 23:15, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- This is not an actionable request. You're welcome to upload a better picture yourself if you have one, though it would need to comply with Wikipedia's Image use policy. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Contralto
So I'm not even the slightest bit knowledgeable about operatic vocal classification. I was kind of curious, however, about who was qualified to judge what classification somebody's voice might fall under specifically; investigating the citation behind "contralto," it appears to lead to The Seattle Times, where "Andrew Gilbert" refers to Adele as a contralto in a rather off-hand fashion. Is this enough to classify Adele as a contralto via Wikipedia policy? I honestly am not sure, so I thought I might just raise the point. 64.253.217.55 (talk) 04:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know if you'd be able to find reputable sources discussing her voice. If anyone does, they can post it here or discuss it. Fixer23 (talk) 10:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Weight
Shouldn't we mention her weight because a lot of media outlets take her to task for being obese?24.112.141.168 (talk) 16:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Why not, if you can find a few reputable sources, you can make an edit request (: Fixer23 (talk) 10:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- Obese? Really? Seems a little extreme if you ask me. Obese refers to a person who has a BMI greater than 30, and causes serious health complications. She's not really THAT big. Overweight would be a better word. I don't think what a tabloid piece says is notable though, if there was some sort of reputable source that shows notability then it would be worth it, but I really doubt there is. DavidSSabb (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Adele will undergo surgery for persistent throat problems and has canceled all performances through the end of the year, a representative said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.251.20.2 (talk) 17:34, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Which has nothing to do with her weight and everything to do with her GERD. 108.67.74.134 (talk) 18:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Voice Issues
{{edit semi-protected}} It may be significant that she is having surgery to address voice issues and has canceled remaining 2011 live dates and promotional appearances. [[1]] 184.9.14.6 (talk) 01:24, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. Here's another source [2] --67.251.113.21 (talk) 00:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- You didn't make it very clear what was wanted; I did my best, and added In 2011, Adele was reported to be undergoing surgery "to alleviate the current issues with her throat" under "2010–present: 21 and breaking records" (with the refs). In future, please say exactly what we should add or change, thanks. Chzz ► 05:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Done
If I may make a suggestion, shouldn't her health issues have its own subsection within the album or even in the personal info sections? It is significant enough to warrant so, particularly since I think this may be an ongoing problem. --Hourick (talk) 16:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Ugly Betty Appearance
She appeared in an episode of Ugly Betty, as herself and sang, during the 22th episode of season 3, "In The Stars". This should appear, I think is her only appearance on any kind of TV Show (Fiction). The episode aired on May 14th, 2009. [3]
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Adele, has sold 20 million albums worldwide which are from her two albums, her debut '19' which has sold 4 million copies worldwide and her follow up sophomore album '21' which has sold 16 million copies worldwide both as of December 2011. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/16075504
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Possible trolling
There's no way she's ACTUALLY signed to a label called "extra large". That HAS to be a troll. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.6.129 (talk) 07:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- As unbelievable as that may be, she did. [4] Shuipzv3 (talk) 07:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Encyclopedia style for refering to persons
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Hello. The subject of this article is named Adele Laurie Blue Adkins, but the article text her 'Adele' throughout. 'Adele' is her chosen stage name, but proper encyclopedic style should be to use her last name to refer to her in the text. Compare the article on 50 cent, which correctly refers to him by his last name 'Jackson'. Accordingly I think that general references to the subject in the text should be changed from 'Adele' to 'Adkins', since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a pop music magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.146.116 (talk) 22:16, 13 February 2012
- See WP:COMMONNAME. Adele is the most common name associated with her, and very few people looking Adele up would know her full name. For the same reason, Eminem is not referred to with his last name Mathers, and United Kingdom is not referred to by its full name, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Shuipzv3 (talk) 11:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- I see you have had filed similar requests at other articles such as Bono, but if we are to name the article Adele (since that is the most common name she is known as, and like you said it is her chosen stage name), then switch to Adkins for the rest of the article, that would confuse a lot of readers. Shuipzv3 (talk) 12:05, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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reference 114 as quoted need to be censored for obsenity.
Ngordontt (talk) 14:07, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Archiving this talk page
This page has threads dating back to 2007. It is time to archive this page. Shuipzv3 (talk) 21:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Life's relevations
In Vogue's US March edition of "Adele: One and Only", Adele's long history were finally viewed online or on format, including the long-rumored names of Adele's troubled parents Mark Evans and Penny. Could you also add references of Adele's early years, the vocal cord surgery on November 3rd, pitfalls ... long story short, add most references, please? Here's the URL for you below.
Acknowledgement
On the day after The Baftas 2012, Lady Gaga wrote on her Facebook page "What a beautiful night last night was, Adele deserved every award she won and perhaps an extra one for being such a kind and lovely woman." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.90.91 (talk) 01:37, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
IPA
There is no need for a "(pronounced...)" IPA link here. Her using "Adele" only as one name makes the name seem less common, when it actually is common. She has been massively famous for a while now like Madonna and Duffy so there is no point to this redundant info. It goes against Wikipedia guidelines. The IPA pronunciation is on the Adele name page, where there are 100 other Adeles listed. John Cengiz talk 06:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Spelling Error - 'Personal Life'
Just a small change, but in the 'Personal Life' section it says she's renting a mansion with 'boyfiend Simon Kusecki.'
I imagine this should read 'boyfriend Simon Kusecki.'
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