Talk:List of WWE personnel

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Skip Sheffield

Is Skip Sheffield still a member of the RAW Roster? See http://www.wwe.com/superstars . --Hixteilchen (talk) 04:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

WWE.com removed Skip's profile due to the fact that he hasn't appeared on WWE TV since his injury in 2010. I've moved him to the Unassigned employees section for the time being since he's still signed to the company.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Jerry Lawler - EDIT WAR

Hello! I wanna make a discussion about the ongoing edit war about Jerry "The King" Lawler. Jerry Lawler's job in WWE is mainly commentator. He had a WWE Championship match a few weeks ago and The Miz attacked him a few times. But even WWE descibes him as "Raw announcer" - see http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/01172011/ . There is one Wikipedia member, Vjmlhds, who always lists him under wrestlers and he writes in the Notes "Also color commentator". But in my opinion he is "also occasional wrestler". Vjmlhds also wrote in my guest book, but I think it's not right to list Jerry Lawler as "wrestler". So I wanna know what the other wrestling fans think about it. --Hixteilchen (talk) 00:07, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Here's the deal:

Jerry Lawler has wrestled 5 times in the last 8 weeks in various kinds of matches (TLC, 2 singles, a tag, and a 6 man), and one of the weeks he didn't wrestle, he was involved in a run-in/beatdown.

"The King" is currently involved in a feud with The Miz (who is WWE Champion BTW). Right now, he's being used more as a regular wrestler/featured player than as a commentator (Josh Matthews has been doing a lot of Raw commentary lately). Lawler has wrestled more on Raw in the last 2 months than some of the Raw bottom feeders have.

When Jerry goes back to his usual 1 match every 3 months clip and stays in the background, then it would be more appropriate to put him back as "occassional". But as long as he's front and center in a featured feud, and has a more active in-ring role, he belongs with the main roster.

Thank You.

Vjmlhds 02:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Damn watch RAW and you see that he is mainly commentator! He had a few wrestling matches but most of the time he is commentator. The last 2 episodes he didn't wrestle! 2 weeks ago, he was attacked by The Miz, he didn't wrestle! Do you wanna show that you are the biggest Jerry Lawler fan on the planet? I don't wanna wait 23 days until we can move him back! It was wrong in the first place to move him to male wrestlers! I will undo this until somebody deals with the problem! Your arguments don't persuade me! That's the point. --Hixteilchen (talk) 00:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hix is right. Jerry is a commentator. I'm sure that's what his contract says. Also, The Miz/Lawler feud is over. Watch Raw and you'll notice. Feedback ^☎ 00:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure also the contract says that he must also wrestle when called upon.

All I'm saying is that with as much as Lawler has been wrestling and/or been involved with the Miz storyline, that right now, he's above occassional status.

How do you know if the feud is over, because he didn't wrestle or get involved in a run-in for a week?

Give it this week (to see if Lawler may be a surprise entry in the Royal Rumble) before declaring the feud dead.

Vjmlhds 19:18, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I have to side with Hix regarding Lawler is a commentator. That's what he does for probably 95% or more of Raw each week. He wrestles and/or gets involved rarely compared to how often he's at the announce table. InFlamester20 (talk) 20:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

There should be no question now that Lawler should go on the main roster. He is the #1 contender for the WWE Championship, and will be wrestling for the title at the Elimination Chamber PPV.

Go back through the archives, and it was agreed upon that if you either hold a title or are wrestling for one on PPV, you automatically go on the active list.

Vjmlhds 04:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Guess I spoke too soon; after what happened on Raw on the 31st, Lawler should go on the main roster for now. InFlamester20 (talk) 20:05, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I still disagree, but I know I will be in the minority. If WWE makes Todd Grisham the #1 Contender for the World Heavyweight Championship on Smackdown, that doesn't make him a main roster member. Feedback ^☎ 23:57, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Sign @ Feedback. I think it's ridiculous to give Jerry Lawler a WWE Championship match at Elimination Chamber.--Hixteilchen (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

If King is an active wrestler then so is Ricardo Rodriguez. Both filling the same role. If a decision is made for one it should be the same for the other. Devil (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

He is right. Jerry Lawler is mainly a commentator. Watch RAW, he hasnt wrestled in a while. Considering he just wrestled for special occasions. But he is mainly just commentary.

Guest Hosts in Raw's other on-air employees?

i think that all the guest hosts that raw had were so corny they should have another story line I was thinking of adding the guest hosts to Raw's other on-air employees, even though they don't work for the WWE. Is it a bad idea to do it or not?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Its not a good idea seeing as there only on one night.--Steam Iron 02:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

No, not naming all the guest hosts. I was thinking of doing this; Name: Celebrity Guest Hosts|Role: Guest Host|Notes: Celebrities appear in backstage and in-ring segments.

They are not employed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.125.196 (talk) 21:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso, Jules Uso, and Tamina

Should an article be made for these three wrestlers, seeing that every other wrestler has an article? - Joeystuff

Yes. But I don't wanna make the article. Someone else gotta do it! --Hixteilchen (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Bryan

Question:

Should we just go ahead and add Daniel Bryan to the Raw roster?

He's been appearing there quite a bit due to the Miz/Cole feud, and he's really not a part of NXT anymore due to there being a new class of rookies.

Vjmlhds 16:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Where are all the tag team articals

Why have the tag team articals beenn removed. They are a vital part foor the roster to tell who is on what team

user:Slash Johnstone 07:42 Canadian time 21 june 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 06:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC).

I agree with you and these sections should be re-added because they are a vital part of WWE. There are a number of teams currently in the WWE and this page should reflect them all. Ajfweb14 (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

This page is about the personnel employed by the wwe we do not list the tag teams as such.--SteamIron 02:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Add Backgound Color to Main Roster?

Should we add (style="background-color:") to the main roster section to represent the brand the employees are appearing on or is it too much?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think its needed.--Steam Iron 00:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Ryder and Primo to SmackDown?

I'm looking on WWE.com, where I was told to look, and I still see Zack Ryder and Primo under Raw superstars. Is the trade thing a hoax? WWEFan225 (talk) 16:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

It's a hoax. Don't worry, I've moved Zack and Primo back to Raw. Who ever moved those two to SmackDown wanted to make vandalism.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 18:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Also on Zack Ryder's page, it says hes on SmackDown. I'm not sure about Primo, but to be on the safe side I'll check it out. WWEFan225 (talk) 19:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Zack debuted on SmackDown as one of Edge's La Familia stablemates. He was later drafted to ECW, then moved to Raw. Primo has stayed on Raw since he debuted. Don't worry, it was all a hoax.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

No, Primo debuted on Raw and then became a Smackdown superstar where he tagged with his brother for a long time. He won both tag titles as a Smackdown superstar and he was then moved to Raw where he's been jobbing ever since. Feedback ^☎ 15:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Joey Mercury

Joey Mercury is the masked man in the SES. So why is he under Unassigned? --Dragonslayer619 21:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

While he is on SmackDown as the Masked Man of SES, he is not fully on the roster as Mercury. WWE has yet to plan Mercury's unmasking, while we wait, he's is unassigned.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

As we don't know for sure that he is the masked man he is listed as Unassigned.--Steam Iron 23:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Alberto Del Rio link

I've added the WWE link to Alberto Del Rio because he will be debuting tonight. Please don't remove it.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:19, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Add Ricardo Rodriguez?

Ricardo Rodriguez is Alberto Del Rio's personal ring announcer. Should we add him to SmackDown's "Other on-air employees" section or wait until he appears again on a later episode of SmackDown to add him?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Nexus has been removed from FCW official website

Someone might want to remove the compete in FCW for the Nexus members because if you check FCW talent page the memebers of Nexus have been removed, which means they no longer are required to be in developmental. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Done!--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Why Doesn't Tamina have an article already?

Why not? --~Ryan Mckenzie~ (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I try and make her one, but every time i do the same guy deletes it :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaitlynWWE (talk • contribs) 04:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Its because said person is not notable for there own page at this time and because not everyone needs a page. Given some time they will most likely get a page in the future--SteamIron 04:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Vic Adams' real name "Marquis Youngston"

For anyone who cares, WWE re-signee's Vic Adams' real name "Marquis Youngston" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.89.60.103 (talk) 01:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

NXT Divas

Aloisia real name is Lindsay Hayward and Karlee Perez name do not have the accent mark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.5.119 (talk) 02:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Jemma Palmer

It's been over a year and she has not debuted, perhaps plans did not work out and it's time to remove her, plus there have been no updates for months now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 22:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

She recently did an interview with diva-dirt.com and said she was still under contract.69.141.133.32 (talk) 00:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

link?

She said on her facebook that she has been released, so she can be removed, —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaitlynWWE (talk • contribs) 02:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

identity of Brad Maddox and Kevin Hackman

Brad Maddox is OVW's Beef Wellington

Kevin Hackman is Andrew Leavine

look at pics if you dont believe me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 01:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Done, also, do you know the Real Names to Devin Allen and Jacob Novak?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 01:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

No sorry, from what I picked up about them is that Jacob Novak is someone who originally trained at FCW in their school and got a deal after the training was complete. Nothing is known about Devin Allen as of yet, hopefully soon we will know their real names, well if they even make it to WWE's main roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 03:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Aloisia in FCW?

It is best to put her in unassigned employees for now since she has not yet debuted in FCW or till her pic apperas in the main FCW website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 07:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Su Yung FCW Debut

Hey. Could someone add Su Yung to FCW Roster? She debuted at the Sept 18 FCW show under the name Vannah. FCW Results 09/18/2010Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 00:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Either the link's dead, bad or doesn't exist. So I can't help you with that.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that. Hope this one works.http://www.lordsofpain.net/reports/fcw-live-event-results-brooksville-fl-ladder-match-no-dq-title-match-new-developmental-diva-debuts-more.htmlWikiuser20102011 (talk) 00:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll let the WP:PW look through this, and maybe we'll move her.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 01:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Maxine real name

Karlee Perez name do not have the accent mark. Please, stop change it back to "Pérez". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.64.17 (talk) 15:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Rudy Parker released

Rudy Parker from FCW was released becuase his picture was taken down from the official FCW website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 17:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Correction to FCW and real identity of Kenny Li

Kenny Li is not Mattias Wild because Mattias Wild is White. Kenny Li is independent Chinese wrestler Li Fang.

Twitter account: http://twitter.com/ChineseWarrior1 and if you youtube his name Li Fang you can see some matches of his indy work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 19:29, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Damnit! Well, I've fixed it. I was really hoping it was Mattias Wild because I've wanted to see what he looks like and what he can do.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Ron Myers correction

Ron Myers is not Brian Button, his name is not yet known but he is definitely not Brian Button. So yeah Im not sure who Ron Myers is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed that one too. Are you gonna tell me that Sonia's not Su Yung too?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from XLILNIQX, 2 November 2010

{{dit semi-protected}} Unassigned Employees Lita-Amy Dumas

XLILNIQX (talk) 02:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 08:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Freddy Prinze Jr.

FPJ is listed as a current employee, but to my knowledge, he left the company over a year and a half ago. Can somebody follow up on this?(Saint0wen (talk) 08:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC))

That was the case but it seems that he is once again working fot the WWE.--Steam Iron 08:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

CM Punk

He has a shoulder injury I believe and has recently had surgery on it. I read WWE are still planning to use him, but not in an active role. My point is, should it be noted as I'm about to do, that he has a shoulder injury. Inactive or Active is your call, based on the info you can find, as it was just speculation on if he was going to be used, but I'm guessing you'll say it, we'll have to wait 30 days, which is understandable. KCDavis (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Val Venis

I am aware he's re-signed with the company, shouldn't he be listed somewhere. So apologizes if I've over looked something.KCDavis (talk) 19:55, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

FCW Releases

The official FCW website has removed the profiles of

Cable Jones, Devin Allen, Fadh Rakman, Rhys Ali, and Ron Myers

New person added

Peter Orlov whos is better known as Alex Koslov has been added —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 20:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Move

The title of this page is not right. It should be List of World Wrestling Entertainment Employees but is List of World Wrestling Entertainment employees. To correct it I'm going to move it to List of World Wrestling Entertainment. Then to List of World Wrestling Entertainment Employees, as Wiki views changing the letter to a capital, the same as it currently is. So please bare with me, thanks. Devil (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Wiki still says page exists. I've tried undoing my edit, but it wont work. Could someone help with this issue, please. I am NOT vandelising this page, simple mistake. Devil (talk) 17:28, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

There has been no consensuses to move this page I must ask you to stop and gain consensuses first.--SteamIron 19:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Jillian is still with WWE

Numerous, website's have confirmed that Jillian was only released from her talent contract and is still gonna train the FCW Divas, so can someone add her back onto the trainers section :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaitlynWWE (talk • contribs) 02:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Recent Releases

MVP,Luke Gallows,Shad Gaspard,Tiffany,Vance Archer and Caylon Croft need to be added to the alumni section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoFan (talk • contribs) 22:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, already added.

Mattias Wild

He goes under the name Matt Clements in FCW

here is the report of an FCW houseshow which featured Mattias http://www.lordsofpain.net/reports/wwe/FCW_Live_Event_Results_12_2_10_3_Debuts_Raw_Smackdown_Stars_from_All_4_NXT_Seasons.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 08:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

A-Ry and The King

I moved Alex Riley and Jerry Lawler to the main roster.

Riley wrestles pretty much every week (he's more of a follower of Miz than a manager/valet/bodyguard), and Lawler has been very active in the ring over the last couple of months, and is involved in a feud with the Miz.

Vjmlhds 05:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Right now, Jerry Lawler has wresled 4 times in the last 6 weeks, and is actively feuding with the Miz.

Leave him on the active roster for the time being, as he right now is being used more as a wrestler than a commentator.

Once either 30 days lapse with no ring activity (or at least an announced match scheduled, like say either Lawler wresltes for the WWE Title at the Royal Rumble or Lawler is an entry in the Rumble match) then leave The King on the active list.

Once the Miz feud winds down, then put the King back in Other Talent, but due to his increased wrestling activity, he belongs on the active roster for now.

Vjmlhds 16:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Unless he leaves the commentator booth full-time, he's still a Other on-air talent.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 17:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Right now, Lawler is more of a wrestler who commentates than a commentator who wrestles. Over the last couple of months, Josh Matthews has been doing more Raw commentary than Lawler has.

When you're involved in a feud with the WWE Champion, that is the higher priority than commentating.

They have "the King" right more focused on feuding with the Miz than commentating. For the time being Lawler is more wrestler than commentator. Once the Miz feud runs it's course, than we can adjust from there.

Vjmlhds 17:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Jackson Andrews

A page was created for Jackson Andrews (not by me). It might be a good idea if one of the experts here takes a look at it. Doesn't seem like the guy has done enough to warrant an article, but I also know nothing of his past. I haven't given it a deletion flag or anything of the sort. Kjscotte34 (talk) 19:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Jackson Andrews page his disappeared from the WWE Employees page by accident, i think he was teken off the Raw section, if this is the case he needs moved back to the FCW section Mjf1987 (talk) 16:17, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The article should be kept. Why not? It doesn't hurt the encyclopedia and he becomes more notable every day he is still on the main roster. Hopefully, no one decides to go ahead and delete an article that does very little harm. And also, just because of an "accident", we won't go ahead and remove him from the roster. He's still on Raw regardless of what WWE.com says. When he stops appearing regularly on Raw, we'll remove him from the list. Feedback ^☎ 03:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

My guess is that someone removed him from the roster since he was not on TV this week with Tyson Kidd. Also- his Wikipedia page has been repaired, referenced, etc. by a well established editor. The ONLY reason that I suggested possible deletion was because the original page was unsourced, no real name, etc etc. You have to remember, just because someone makes an appearance on TV in wrestling, it does NOT automatically qualify them for a page here. Kjscotte34 (talk) 13:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

New WWE signing

Brandon Barker who was a student of Lance Storm signed with WWE last October. Look at the November and December updates from Lance Storms official website. Link below

http://www.stormwrestling.com/academy/wwesignings.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.78.164 (talk) 06:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Shawn Michaels

It says he is a WWE Hall of Famer, as well as am ambassador. However, he has not yet been inducted, and will not be inducted until April 2nd, 2011. SHould it be noted that he is an Hall Of Fame inductee, or leave as is?  WWEFan225 ^Message_{Contributions} 19:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

He's going to be a Hall of Famer. So no change is needed. Why do you want to change it to Hall of Fame inductee?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it should be changed. If it is announced that Shawn Michaels killed his son and then his wife tomorrow morning, WWE will issue a statement saying he won't go into the Hall of Fame. It is speculation (WP:CBALL) to assume that he will unconditionally get in. Feedback ^☎ 20:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Now, now, let's not go there... But indeed, such is speculation to assume such. Best wait till after the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② 05:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Would the simple solution be to put him down as "2011 Hall of Fame Inductee" until the ceremony? That way it's covered that it was announced, without saying he's an official member. I'm not sure what we've done in years past. Kjscotte34 (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Seeing that we have no proof that he's working for WWE, I don't think he's suited for a employees/personnel article. We wouldn't do anything before, because we never added inductees who weren't working for WWE at the time. Feedback ^☎ 00:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Good call on that. I didn't realize there wasn't a source there before. Hopefully someone stumbles upon one soon. Kjscotte34 (talk) 00:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Identitys of New Talent

For those who want the short version of new talent: "Mike McGrath" = Mattias Wild, Real name: Matt Clement "Kenneth Cameron" = Tom Latimer (real name) from England "Monty Lynch" = Rampage Brown, Real name: Oliver Biney from England —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.89.60.103 (talk) 02:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Kevin Nash and Booker T

I vote to put them under unassigned talent, as it's been confirmed that they have both signed contracts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.2.63 (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Untrue. I'm currently listening to a Kevin Nash interview that says he will be signing a contract later this week. I don't know about Booker though, but seeing that Nash hasn't signed a contract yet, I don't think Booker has either. It would be speculation to just assume Booker has. Feedback ^☎ 18:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Sting

Nothing has been confirmed yet about Sting, so I say that we lock the article and remove him until at least Feburary 22 to see if Sting is really coming to WWE, I am tired of people messing around on these articles, I mean I know we all wanna see Sting in WWE but a 47 second promo could be for anyone, so lets remove Sting and lock the Article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.0.72 (talk) 04:09, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

remove him he is going to be on the March 3 tape of TNA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28wrestler%29#cite_note-41 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.66.231.13 (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

WrestleMania

Just a couple of things to be clear on as we go into the WrestleMania build that will begin on Monday...

As long as The Rock is still only scheduled to be the host of Mania, he stays in other talent. But if they have him wrestle on the show (like say a main event with him and John Cena), then he goes on the main roster, since that would indicate WWE brought him in to be a wrestler.

As far as Jerry Lawler goes, don't be so quick to send him back to other talent should he lose to Miz on Sunday (obviously if he wins the title he stays where he is). Because if the rumors are true, he'll be wrestling at WrestleMania (against some combo of Micheal Cole/Alex Riley/Ted DiBiase).

In short, until it's dead certain he won't be wrestling regulary or involved in a Mania match between now and Mania, leave him where he is.

Now after Mania, when everything with Miz/Riley/Cole/DiBiase is settled, then we can switch him back to other talent, but as long as he's still in the thick of the action with a feud, Raw matches, and a possible Mania match, he stays as part of the main roster.

Thank You.

Vjmlhds 18:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

FCW Diva: Naomi

It upsets me to see that divas like Shaul Guerrero has a Wikipedia page already, undoubtedly because of her wrestling legacy - yet Naomi has done far more than her, and has yet to receive a page. I only ask she gets one as soon as possible, seeing as how she is one of the most important divas there, besides AJ Lee, and has the most creditable wrestling history to put down. If Shaul and Aksana can have a page, I think Naomi can too.

I agree. --Hixteilchen (talk) 00:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree also. She was runner up of NXT 3, held the FCW Diva Championship and made the PWI top 50 Female Wrestlers list last year. Those alone should quailfy her for one. Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 03:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Neither of them should have an article. Feedback ^☎ 04:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DT Porter IS Dovovan Ruddick/Brian McGhee

Look at these pics of Porter1 and of Ruddick1 and 2. Definitely the same person. Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 03:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Dwayne Johnson/The Rock

If he does not appear in the next episode or two of Raw or Smackdown can we add him to the list of unassigned employees. He is not attached to the Raw brand and may not even appear until Wrestlemania Mjf1987 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC).

Page protected

3 days. Too much edit warring going on regarding names. Work it out here, guys. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Unprotect the page and block anyone guilty of 3RR. This is a problem among 2 or 3 people, don't block everyone else from editing the article. Feedback ^☎ 16:46, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I second Feedback's comments. Block the edit warriors and unprotect the page. STATic message me! 16:54, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

There is really only one guy who seems hellbent on using the formal names (WWE Jobber).

On the article history page, there are 3 guys (me, Mikeymike, and Wrestling 0101) who have said the formal names aren't necessary.

That's 3-1.

Unless somebody else joins Jobber, then the article should be unlocked and the formal names should be removed (James for Jim, etc).

Vjmlhds 22:10, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

One more vote here against the formal names. Make it 4-1. Kjscotte34 (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Also against formal names. 5-1. STATic message me! 01:07, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Let's not make this a vote for the stupid issue of names. Who cares if its formal names or not? They're both adequate. I just want this page to be unprotected ASAP and anyone who decides to fail 3RR be immediately blocked. Feedback ^☎ 17:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Ultimately, it may not be of paramount importance. We still need to remember WP:COMMONNAME though. I'm also not sure if Vince should be in on-air employees, as he doesn't really appear that much.--Tærkast (Communicate) 18:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, the page should be unlocked tommorow (since the lock was issued on Friday, and 3 days will have past).

So it looks like we can all agree on this:

Formal names aren't necessary as per consensus and WP:COMMONNAME (i.e. if someone goes by Bill, we don't have to list him as William).

As far as Vince in other on-air talent goes, he is still listed on the Raw roster page on WWE.com, so it's not incorrect to list him where he is.

But if he were to go back to the executive section, it wouldn't hurt my feelings either.

Vjmlhds 19:06, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I established a middle ground between my opinion and the one of you all and remodeled the article. Now we have room for common/ring names and real/formal names. Like Feedback said they are both adequate, so let us use both of them like in the rest of the article. I hope you all like it. If you does not let us discuss it first to avoid all those reversions and undoings. The real important thing here is to help to improve the article together. WWEJobber (talk) 02:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Protected, again

There is far too much warring going on, not only between registered accounts, but now IP addresses -- and far too little discussion on the talk page. Edit summaries are not the place to resolve disputes. 1 week this time. Longer if necessary, up to indefinite. If you want to make a change to the article while protected, get consensus for it and then propose it with the {{editrequested}} tag. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Stupid decision, but I'm not going to fight it. You obviously do not know what you're doing. Feedback ^☎ 03:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

We do not need to make personal attacks so much as assuming good faith. That sort of comment is counter-productive to the development of Wikipedia. --Tærkast (Communicate) 17:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh my God, look I can Wikilink to ! Feedback ^☎ 15:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

• Just to make this perfectly clear for everybody so we know what to do the next time this situation happens:

• WP:PW/Style guide has a policy that as long as information comes from an approved source, it can be included in articles. So like in the case of Wade Barrett winning the I-C Title, the spoiler results were found on sites that Wikipedia accepts as valid, therefore, the proper updates to any related articles are permitted.

• Nowhere on Wikipedia does it say that spoilers are not allowed, and nowhere does it say that we can only go by the official website of the promotion (be it WWE, TNA, ROH, or whatever).

• And by going over to WP:SPOILER, it clearly points out that spoilers can't be deleted just because they're spoilers.

• Long story short--Barrett beat Kofi for the I-C Title in a match which occured on 3-22-11. It was verified by acceptable sources, and so the match and the result thereof are allowed to be included in the proper articles.

• Stuff happened, and just because it hasn't been aired yet, it doesn't mean that we can pretend it didn't happen...again as pointed out in WP:SPOILER.

• Hopefully THIS will put all the hubbub to bed, and this article just may be unprotected sooner than scheduled.

Thank You. Vjmlhds 23:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

If you all agree that the article is ready for unprotection and that warring will not resume, let me know or post a request at WP:RFPP#Current requests for unprotection. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I think now that we know what the definitive spoiler policy is, we can play nice. Also, we have new FCW Tag Team Champions in WWE's developmental branch, as Richie Steamboat and Seth Rollins won the titles, so the roster needs to be edited and updated anyway to reflect the change. Thank You. Vjmlhds 13:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

"Now we know what the..." Spoiler policy has ALWAYS been very clear. The incompetent users who want to edit war because of it should be blocked and handled separately without disturbing every other MILLION USERS OF WIKIPEDIA the right to edit this page. Remember that by protecting a page, the admin is rendering it uneditable by the millions of wikipedia users and millions of anons around the world. All because of what? Two or three buffoons? Warn them on their talk page, and if they continue, block them all and let the page be. It's a stupid decision to protect the page, but of course, the all-knowing admin knows best, right... Feedback ^☎ 15:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Feedback--

Insulting the top men of Wiki ain't gonna get this thing unlocked any sooner. What they did is kind of like what the Army does in basic training--one screws up, all get punished. Being reasonable works better than snide comments. Vjmlhds 21:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Not the top men of Wiki, just people who have been designated as users who have GOOD JUDGMENT to know when to use a specific set of abilities like protecting pages and blocking disruptive users. Obviously, good judgment wasn't present when the former was done instead of the latter. This isn't the military, you don't shut down a page just because two people can't get along. You push the two people aside, they either cooperate or they get blocked. No need to start punishing other people. Feedback ^☎ 23:08, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

The page is now semi-protected. Your failure to assume good faith as required is noted. Fully protecting the page is the only appropriate response for a content dispute, when an admin sees good-faith attempts at improvement without obvious vandalism, as was the case here. Sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way it is. In the future, provide warnings to disruptive users on their talk pages and report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring if needed. That would generate better results than blustering here. ~Amatulić (talk) 05:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I never "failed to assume good faith". Being unhappy with a decision isn't the same thing as thinking the decision was made with bad intentions. I am completely aware that you believe protecting the page was the right solution, and I'm pretty sure you're accustomed to just go ahead with protection as a first measure anytime the slightest of disputes arises in an article. However, protection is very drastic, it affects ALL non-admin editors on Wikipedia and therefore should be used as a LAST measure when it is REALLY needed. It was not REALLY needed here. Blocking the editors works best, although semi-protection was a good idea as well. Again, I hope it is clear that I didn't think you were being an evil power-abusing admin, I did not "Assume bad faith", I assumed bad judgment. You're the admin here which certainly means you have more experience, but I've been on Wikipedia for almost 5 years and I can notice when a decision is being made to hastily without much meditation. THINK ABOUT IT TWICE next time before you protect a page. There are more editors out there than the two or three bickering IPs. Feedback ^☎ 13:52, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Kofi/Barrett

We have always been allowed to post spoilers as long as they're from accepted sources (PWTorch and Wrestling Observer to name two.)

Barrett won the match and the title, and the proper souces confirmed it.

Why is it now people are having coniptions?

The match happened, he won the belt, it's been confirmed by the sources.

Simple as that, period, and amen.

Vjmlhds 17:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

To end this once and for all, go to WP:PW. Once there click on the style guide. Towards the bottom of the article it has a list of sources that are acceptable to use for information.

As long as whatever information we add to Wiki can be backed up by the sources in the accepted list, IT IS ALLOWED TO BE ADDED.

END OF STORY!

Vjmlhds 18:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

It is not the end of story. You are misinterpreting the information in the article. 174.27.14.36 (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe your the one misinterpreting the information.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers can be posted if there are Reliable sources which there are this Issue is over.

The Rock'Dwayne Johnson

It's known that WWE recently, besides referring to The Rock as his ring name, they are also referring him to Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, but as it says 'Ring Name', he is still refereed to as The Rock. Is that a reliable change it from what he has now to just 'The Rock' under 'Other personalties' in the RAW section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkside05 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Tough Enough

Question:

Once Tough Enough debuts, do we list the contestants as part of the roster or no?

Vjmlhds 19:29, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

No, USA has contracts for the 14 contestants, not WWE.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:32, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

But Ariana the contestant on the show, has been signed to a development deal with WWE, she announced on her twitter page so she should be under the women of FCW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.141.188 (talk) 22:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The Rock

We have a first of it's kind situation here.

We have a match booked one year in advance (Rock vs Cena - Wrestlemania 28), so I will tenatively put Rock on the active list.

1. By booking a match a year in advance, this shows WWE and the Rock have a long term agreement.

2. This shows that Rock was brought in to be a wrestler, and they are treating the Rock as such.

3. There is always the possibility that The Rock may wrestle a few times before the next Mania.

Now, if Mr. Johnson disappears for a spell before Mania, we'll just simply deactivate him until he comes back.

Never had something like this happen before, so I think this would be the best way to approach it.

Vjmlhds 04:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion you need to use common sense here, (points 1 & 2) he may not appear/compete for months as there is rumours he has another film shooting soon. As for point no 3, he should be left in other on air employees till he actually competes in a match. By adding him to the list when he may not appear for 6 months seems silly. I would leave him as other on air employees till he competes and take it from there. Thoughts? Mjf1987 (talk) 14:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Common Sense:

1. When you set your Wrestlemania main event a year in advance, that indicates that The Rock is going to be a highly featured player in WWE for the next 12 months. That's more than merely being "other on-air talent"

2. When the next year of the company's promotion and marketing is going to center around you, you are just a wee bit higher profile and a tad bit more important than the ring announcer, so it doesn't makes sense (and really wouldn't be accurate) to list him in the same category as someone like Justin Roberts or Scott Stanford.

3. If The Rock has a lenghty absense between now and Mania, we'll just list him as inactive in the notes column...that's what it's there for.

4. Bottom line...when you're already locked into the main event of the biggest show of the year 12 months in advance, you're (to say the least) a featured player, not the supporting crew.

Vjmlhds 17:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I bet that D"TR"J will disappear to do his movies and will come back on January 2012 to the "Road To Wrestlemania" thing. And, in fact, the match is not a certainty because him and/or Cena can get hurt or even die until WM28. WWEJobber (talk) 09:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the best thing to do would be to put him in unassigned employees with something in his notes about his match with John 'Superman' Cena at WM28? Mjf1987 (talk) 14:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There is no "maybe" about it, WWE has bent over backwards to confirm that it'll be Cena-Rock at WM 28.

And this "both could get hurt or die" arguement is bogus, because if you went by that logic, then EVERY SINGLE PROMOTED MATCH would be subjected to that same treatment. ("The Edge vs Alberto Del Rio ladder match at Extreme Rules may not happen if one of them dies, so we shouldn't list it on the Extreme Rules article!") Heck, we may as well say that any ball game or any Nascar race may not occur if the plane with the team/drivers goes down in a firey inferno!

---Get Outta Here With That Crap!

Rock goes away for awhile, we'll list him as inactive in the notes column. We may not even see Undertaker again until close to Mania time (when the next contestant for The Streak comes forward), so if that happens, we'll deactivate him until he comes back.

Rock has been a presence on Raw for a couple of months now, all integrated with John Cena, so he's not "unassigned".

Rock goes on hiatus, then he's inactive until he shows up again. but the fact they booked a match a year in advance means that he's gonna be a part of the show (in some form) for the next 12 months...and they're promoting him not as a guest host, announcer or anything except a competitor.

Vjmlhds 14:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that to be in a Wrestlemania match does not mean that the guy is part of the roster or even a WWE employee. We have a lot of examples: Akebono, Floyd Mayweather, Snooki. I know that this one is different because D"TR"J is a WWE alumnus, but this already occurred too on WM25 with Roddy Piper and Jimmy Snuka (more than just alumni, Hall Of Famers). The two appeared constantly on Raw at the time and had their match with Ricky Steamboat and Ric Flair against Chris Jericho booked in advance (not one year, of course), but none of them were added here as part of the roster or WWE employee because they are just booked to that match and the appearances were all related to it. WWEJobber (talk) 19:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The best thing to do would be is to leave him off completely because as of now he has not wrestled one match and is pretty much making just alumni appearences. When he wrestles a match, you can put him in the page. STATic message me! 19:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

You can't leave him off because for the next year, we're gonna be hit in the face with Rock vs Cena hype. This is a first of it's kind situation, I'll grant you that. But when you're promoted a year in advance as the main event of Wrestlemania, it's above merely being listed as "other on air talent". The Rock isn't a guest host or an announcer, but is being pushed as a WWE legend who's coming back to face today's big star. This is similar to Hulk Hogan coming back after 9 years away from WWE (and a year and a half away from wrestling period) and challenging the Rock at Wrestlemania X8.

Hogan 2002 = Rock 2011 Rock 2002 = Cena 2011

And Hogan vs Rock was only announced a month in advance, compared to a year. Bottom line Hogan came back to wrestle, and so now is the Rock (as this year's Mania was pretty much proven to be a set up for NEXT year's Mania).

He's not "other talent", he's not a celebrity wrestling a gimmick match, and he's not a legend doing a "hi-and-bye", he's someone who WWE still promotes as a "Superstar" who the next year will be focused on (along with Cena).

Vjmlhds 20:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Static. The best thing to do would be to leave him off the article completely or, at least, as an Ambassador on the "Other employees" subsection of the "Off-screen employees" section. WWEJobber (talk) 04:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

i agree with static aswell Mjf1987 (talk) 13:22, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

When you are going to be the center of the company's marketing and promotion for a year, you're part of the roster.

This isn't a Lawrence Taylor deal, the whole storyline is the "prodical son" coming home to face the current golden boy.

Rock's been all over Raw for the past 2 months bickering with Cena, and the next year will be all about Rock-Cena. While it's possible he may take a hiatus before Mania, you know he's gonna be there for the stretch run.

If he's gone for a spell, he'll be listed as inactive.

You guys are WAAAY overthinking this...he's not "other talent"--those are your ring announcers and managers. He's not an "ambassador" like Sgt Slaughter/HBK/Mae Young--he's the focal point of the most hyped match in company history (yes it's the most hyped match ever---who else has gotten a YEAR of build?!).

It's not that difficult--when your match is going to be the focal point of the company for a whole year, you're above "Other Talent" and "Ambassador" status.

Vjmlhds 16:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I do not understand why you opened a discussion if you do not care about other points of view. Three people here disagree with you. No one agrees with you. The decision is simple. WWEJobber (talk) 04:41, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

How is explaining my position = not caring about others?

And don't assume people don't agree with me just because they haven't said so here.

They saw the Rock as part of the roster and have left him there.

If all those people actually DISAGREED with me, they'd have spoken up.

Before everybody gets their panties in a bunch, let's see how this plays out. There's a clear endgame in all this (WM 28).

Vjmlhds 14:41, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I say we keep him off until he actully has a match, thats like saying Ricky Steamboat was apart of the roster when he was fueding with Jerico. And Steamboat actully had a couple matches. STATic message me! 01:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

And, as I said, I agree with Static. WWEJobber (talk) 08:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Jerry Lawler

Please leave Lawler on the active list.

Since 11-29-10, he has wrestled 10 times on Raw, as well as the last 2 PPVs (Elimination Chamber, Wrestlemania)

Lawler is different than Booker T over on SD, as Booker as only wresled once since returning (Royal Rumble), and has spent 99% of his time as strictly a commentator.

Lawler has gone straight form one feud (Miz) to another (Cole/Swagger), and the Cole/Swagger feud is still going.

So Let's leave The King as active until this thing finally gets put to bed, and Lawler stays behind the desk.

Vjmlhds 04:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I have no idea why the hell they want to continue this Lawler/Cole crap, but it's still ongoing. Hopefully at Extreme Rules we get some sort of tag team match where Cole and Lawler put their announcer positions on the line. Cole loses, but stays on as a manager or General Manager. Feedback ^☎ 10:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

WWE Legends

I propose we start a new section called WWE Legends.

This would be for guys who aren't assigned to any brand (and aren't already agents), but who make appearences, and wrestle on special occasions.

The first 2 entries:

Kevin Nash (who has a legends contract) and The Rock (who is locked in to WM 28).

Any thoughts?

Vjmlhds 03:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Support. Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I created a new section, called WWE Legends.

This is for people who aren't a fulltime member of Raw or SD, but who make periodic appearances and perform on major shows.

The 1st 3 entries:

Diesel, who has a Legends contract

The Rock, who will be main eventing WM 28.

And Jim Ross, who is a HOFer, and has been involved in the Lawler/Cole/Swagger feud.

This should be the happy medium...not including them on Raw or SD, but acknowledging current/future involvement with the shows.

Vjmlhds 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

If they wrestle just on special occasions, they don not need a section because they are not part of the roster/personnel. I do not support this. WWEJobber (talk) 21:35, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I support this. Jobber, if you don't like it, you're in the minority.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

If by "minority" you mean that I am the only one here capable to ratiocinate I am glad. Legends like Alumni and HOFs are not part of the personnel. Principally on the main roster as Vjmlhds did. They are there just to do special appearances. WWEJobber (talk) 21:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Surprisingly I am against this idea. The section could get out of hand really quick. Any ex superstar could be considered a "WWE Legend" so you'll see names like Sean Waltman and JBL added to list for the Hall of Fame cameo and the SCSA-Raw cameo respectivly. I think its just gonna cause more disruption then the minimal improvment that will be done to having it. If this is gonna work its gonna need a really strict policy (which would be in a hidden note) to who to put and who not to which would most likly cause alot more edit waring instead of disscussion which is already a big problem with this article. STATic message me! 08:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Since I'm the one who came up with this idea, I'll come up with the criteria.

1. Must have a definitve role in current storylines (i.e. The Rock and JR).

2. Must have a Legends contract or some sort of ambassador role (i.e. Nash, Young, Sarge, and HBK)

3. Coming in for "hi-and-byes" don't count. (people like Mae Young and Sgt. Slaughter have been making a few yearly appearances for quite awhile, JBL or X-Pac don't quailfy since we haven't seen them in forever, nor have we heard from them since).

4. If you have any other definitve job within WWE (i.e. road agent, on WWE.com, a front office job) then you go into that appropriate section.

5. If you win a title, or are put on either the Raw or SD roster on WWE.com, then you go on either of those rosters if you're a Legend.

This should clear things up, and establish some parameters.

Vjmlhds 16:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay I support the section if you take it upon yourself to control the section and enforce those rules as I do agree with them. The only problem I have is JR he should be in commentators as hes done commentating every week since Mania as far as I can tell. STATic message me! 17:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'll be watching this section...since it's my baby and my rules, I'll make sure it's up to snuff.

As far as JR goes, wait and see on him...if he sticks around after this Cole/Lawler thing gets settled, then he'll go on the Raw roster. If he disappears again afterwords, he'll stay a Legend.

Vjmlhds 21:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Real names

Is this article goin a bit overboard with the full name thing? Randal Orton, Michael Mizanin. Alot of these could just be like Randy and Mike because that is what they go by. Its still their real name. Other examples are Nicholas Nemeth and Theodore Dibiase. Wrestling0101 (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

WWEJobber done that. He believed everything should be formal because it's their birth names, not the names that they liked to be called.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Ill put my name in first for it to be changed. Anyone agree to make it 2? Wrestling0101 (talk) 23:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

And I'll support you on going back to their common names in the article. It's way overboard. Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

If a third person else agrees I say we should change it. Wrestling0101 (talk) 18:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed Vjmlhds 18:36, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

You all should read the article that you are editing before do anything. Look at this paragraph:

"Employees and management are organized by role within the promotion. The ring name of the employee is written on the left, while the employee's real name is on the right. If a wrestler is inactive for any reason, due to injury, suspension, not wrestling in 30 days or otherwise, that information is noted."

The real name is linked to Given name and was always like this. Given names are totally different of common names. Common name is the name that everyone knows, like Vince, Mike, Randy. Given name is the legal name or the born name, like Vincent, Michael, Randal. WWEJobber (talk) 21:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

And you need to read up on WP:Consensus. The edit warring here has been beyond ridiculous. The article was written using names like "Mike" and "Vince" for years before you started interfering. As for the Legends thing, it seems to be a good idea. Try to be a little open minded. Kjscotte34 (talk) 22:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Husky Harris

Hello

I was wondering whether we could clarify the status of Husky Harris. He has been re-added to the FCW website which means he has been sent back to FCW. There are also reports that he has been sent back to FCW due to him not being ready for the main roster. WWE.com would probably keep him on the website to keep in line with the story that Randy Orton's punt (kayfabe) injured him. Can we move him back to the FCW roster until he reappears on either Smackdown or Raw. Thoughts? Mjf1987 (talk) 15:28, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it's wrong to move him to the FCW Roster as long he is still part of the Raw Roster. I now he is inactivge on Raw at the moment, but that is written in the notes. --Hixteilchen (talk) 17:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

As the rest of Nexus returned to television except Husky can we move him to the FCW section, although he still does have a Raw profile page he is not currently appearing on Raw and has not been seen since he was kayfabe injured and he is regularly appearing in FCW. If he re appears on the main roster we can move him back. Mjf1987 (talk) 22:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hes still on the fcw Alumni page too so that means he is still a WWE main roster superstar. Wrestling0101 (talk) 22:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I am actully against having Harris, Sheffield or Tarver on the main roster as they are all Nexus cast-offs pretty much. You can believe that Harris and Tarver arn't gonna be seen on the main roster for awihile. Sheffield might be back on the main roster since Vince is reportly high on him. I sugest a move to FCW for Harris and Tarver. STATic message me! 08:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

husky is actually on the talent page for fcw too so the alumni section is probably an error on their part. I agree with static, in my opinion Tarver & Harris should be moved onto the FCW section until they reappear on the main roster Mjf1987 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Jim Ross and Edge

Having returned at WrestleMania and commentated at every Raw since, JR should be listed as a regular commentator for Raw until he leaves again, whenever that may be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.12.193 (talk) 22:50, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, Edge is still under contract to WWE so he should be listed somewhere, probably under "WWE Legends."

• If JR sticks around after Extreme Rules (when hopefully this Cole/Lalwer/Swagger/JR deal is put to bed), then we'll add him to Raw.

• Edge under Legends?

• He is under contract and still making appearances...OK, I'll go along with it for now, but with an eye towards the future to see where he goes from here.

Vjmlhds 04:26, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Edge should be under "unassigned" until his contract expires. ArcAngel (talk) ) 07:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Edge right now is being portrayed as a main eventer who had to retire due to injury, but is still kinda involved in the Christian-Alberto Del Rio storyline. At this point, he's more of a special appearence kind of guy (like say HBK), so the best spot for him would be under Legends.

Unassigned employees are people who have contracts and are ready to go, but haven't found a home yet.

Vjmlhds 00:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Two possible changes

I would like to propose two changes. 1. Should HHH be on the main roster? He hasent wrestled a single match for Raw since his return and has been inactive for nearly a month. We should move him to the Off-screen employees section with a note that says is also inactive as a wrestler superstar. 2. Chris Jehrico has long said he will return after Dancing WIth the Stars was over and he just got eliminated. SHould he been unassigned employees till he debuts? Or left off thr list completly? STATic message me! 09:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

1. Just list him as inactive in the notes column. No need to put him in another category. Remember, he is still considered a "superstar", as that is his main on-air role, and is still listed as part of the Raw roster on WWE.com.

2. Wait till we see the whites of Jericho's eyes on WWE TV (or at least a vignette) before we put him back on the roster. Yes, he may have some sort of handshake deal/wink-wink-nudge-nudge/understanding with Vince. But it would make my life a hell of a lot easier (and prevent an edit war) to just leave it alone until it becomes obvious.

Vjmlhds 18:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I changed my mind on HHH when i saw him in the openning video thing for Raw last night. STATic message me! 01:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree with you on Jericho too. STATic message me! 01:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Jerry Lawler question without the drama

I may have missed this somewhere, so forgive me if I did. Under "Ring Name" on the list, he's listed simply as 'Jerry Lawler' and not 'Jerry "The King" Lawler. Is there any sort of reason for the change? I don't want to change it back without asking, as this page has been tampered with quite a bit. Thanks everyone! Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Undertaker

Rumours are he is pretty much as good as retired but may work Wrestlemania 28 next year as his final match. This would also be the reason why Michelle McCool has left WWE as she wants to start a family and be at home with Mark. Im not suggesting anything to change yet but if he does not appear on TV by say August/September then maybe move him to the Legends section as he wont of appeared for 5/6 months. Thoughts? Mjf1987 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC).

As long as he's on the SD roster on WWE.com, leave him where he is. Don't assume anything, because you never know when he may come back. For example, there could be a rash of injuries or Wellness violations which may force Taker to come back and pick up some slack...it's happened before.

Vjmlhds 14:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

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The Rock on Raw

I'm going to include the Rock as part of the Raw roster, and there is a very good reason for it.

On 5-2-11, Raw debuted a brand new opening that reflected the changes made during the 2011 Draft. Amongst those changes (such as Del Rio, Mysterio, Show, and Kofi) they have now included The Rock as part of the opening.

He is not on the SD opening.

This would indicate that WWE considers Mr. Johnson as part of the show on Raw, and thus a part of the roster.

Vjmlhds 23:05, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I still think the Legends section is the best place for him for now, mainly due to the following:

1. Although he is booked for a match at Wrestlemania, he still has not competed in a match since March 2004 2. He would not be added to Smackdown opening because it would not make sense as he is feuding with John Cena who is on Raw, so to have to find clips of him and add them to the Smackdown opening would be a waste of resources. 3. Its obvious he wont appear every week which means he is left as inactive for the 250 odd days until the Road to Wrestlemania begins, this just seems crazy aswell as inaccurate. 4. I propose we add him to the main section of the roster as soon as he competes in a match either on Raw or at a Pay Per View before Wrestlemania. Until then he is just a former wrestler who makes very sporadic appearances and has a match booked in 329 days

I hope you understand my point of view and it does not come accros as rude or anything Mjf1987 (talk) 18:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I get what you're saying, and I was more than happy with him in the Legends section. But when they include him in the open, they're putting forth that he's looked at as a member of the roster and a part of the show.

Basically they're saying "Hey look, Rock's a Raw guy!"

And techincally, he's the number 1 contender to the WWE Title, since John Cena is the champion (I know, there's no guarantee Cena's the champ at Mania, but as of now, Rocky's got a championship match on a PPV, thus he should be part of the roster for that alone).

But mainly, since he's featured in the open, that shows that WWE is pushing him as part of Raw.

And if 30 days passes w/o a Rock sighting, then he gets reactivated when he comes back.

Vjmlhds 22:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

To say his is a part of the main roster is to assume he has been active in the ring performing on television or at house shows, and he has not and he won't be from the looks of it. Either he can stay in the section about legends or he can be in the other personnel of Raw, because the main list is for the active and inactive wrestlers. Going and cutting a promo every month doesn't make him either. — Moe ε 16:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

i agree with moe Mjf1987 (talk) 18:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I can live with this. My main contention was that WWE, by putting Rock in the Raw opening, were stating they viewed him as part of that particular show.

Vjmlhds 19:28, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

FCW Updates

Rodney Thomas is Brandon Barker1 and Brandi Reed has already made her debut, although under what name isn't clear.2 Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 18:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Update on Brandi Reed - she was featured on the May 8th FCW TV show as an interviewer under the name Brandi (forward to 8 mins in)1 and also debuted on WWE Superstars last night as a ring announcer 2. Not sure where she should be added, but just passing it along to other editors.Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 21:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Youtube can't be used as a source for this, and unless another source turns up somewhere, it may not be able to be added.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 22:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Here is the TV report from PWInsider for the FCW show1 Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 01:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't count as significant coverage of her, sorry.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 20:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

WWE Broadcasting Team

Since a lot of the commentators appear on multiple programs, I felt it was appropriate to put them into their own section of the roster page.

Jerry Lawler and Booker T are pretty much exclusive to their repective shows, so I left them where they were.

What do y'all think?

Vjmlhds 03:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Josh was not on Raw this week so its myabe something to look out for in the next couple of weeks but it could be that they have decided to go back to the 2 man commentary team or Josh may have just had something else on this week, watch this space Mjf1987 (talk) 21:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't read too much into it.

Outside of Jerry Lawler (who is also a semi-active wrestler), and Booker T , all of the announcers bounce back and forth between all the other shows (just like the referees). Lawler and Booker are exclusive to their shows to provide at least a little bit of a different sound, but the Cole/Matthews/Grishams of the world are quite frankly interchangable, thus the reason why they are on multiple programs. Vjmlhds 17:12, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

i think that regardless if they are exclusive or not they should all be in the broadcasters section rather than having one or two seperate to the others. Booker T has replaced Matt Striker on Superstars as Striker is apparently going to become a manager Mjf1987 (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Since Booker T also has Superstars and Tough Enough on his plate, I'd put him on the Broadcast Team.

Lawler has to be left on Raw because he is a semi-sorta wrestler as well.

Vjmlhds 20:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, here's what I've done...

I've moved Booker T to the broadcast team because he appears on multiple programs.

Hornswoggle is a wrestler, because he's more or less a comedy act (a la Santino) and he's been wrestling on NXT.

Lawler is exclusive to Raw, as he's also part of the roster as well (he's been wrestling more often than some of the lower tier guys).

I removed Armando Estrada, since Tyson Kidd is doing a "musical managers" gimmick, and it looks like Estrada was just a one shot deal.

Vjmlhds 21:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Alex Riley

Here's the deal with A-Ry:

He was drafted to SD, true.

But on the following Raw, (when Miz asked Riley why he wasn't at Extreme Rules, and Riley told him because he was drafted to SD) Miz told him that he had a personal service contract with him (Miz), not a WWE contract, so the draft pick didn't count.

So when Miz fired A-Ry last week, Riley became a free agent, and this week while Cole was reading him the riot act, he mentioned that the Raw GM had signed him to a contract.

Besides, Riley hasn't even sniffed SD since the draft, it's been all Raw.

So Riley is actually Raw property since the Raw GM signed him.

Vjmlhds 21:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

we shall see what they decide to do with his profile on wwe.com, he is still listed as a Smackdown superstar officially. Mjf1987 (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

now confirmed as being on Raw on wwe.com and moved back to the Raw superstars section :-) Mjf1987 (talk) 16:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Stone Cold

"Makes occasional appearances on Raw" should be added underneath his other roles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.218.81 (talk) 18:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Triple H & Undertaker

Triple H has said in an interview May 2011 he will pretty much be to quote Vince an "emergency break glass" wrestler, Triple H see's himself as more of a backstage employee than an active superstar. With this in mind after how long of being inactive would it make sense to add him to the Creative Writers section with a note Also appears on Raw?

As for Undertaker, there's a good chance he wont reappear until Road to Wrestlemania starts in December/January for one final match before retirement. Michelle McCool left WWE as they want to have a family so this makes you wonder when he will reappear (there's also a possibility he might not if his body is not up to it of course, nobody knows) I think after a few more months of inactivity he could possibly be moved to Legends until he makes a re-appearance.

I know you may point out they are still on wwe.com but they can easily be moved about on here if/when they reappear

The link to the HHH interview is below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn-ARCzPq0g&feature=player_embedded#at=141 (2 mins 20sec onwards)

Thoughts? Mjf1987 (talk) 22:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Leave them as is. That's why we have the 30 day inactivity rule. Both guys are featured in the openings of their respecive shows, thus they are still portrayed as part of the show. Don't make things more convoluted then what it needs to be.

Thank you.

Vjmlhds 14:06, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Josh Mathews & Scott Stanford on WWE Superstars

Josh Mathews is the Color Commentator for raw matches on WWE Superstars. While Scott Stanford is the Play By Play announcer for Raw matches on WWE Superstars. not how it is listed on the WWE Broadcast team list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.120.38 (talk) 21:52, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

done Mjf1987 (talk) 13:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

CM Punk

Now let's get this straight right off the bat...

Obviously, we all know the storyline with Punk's contract running out.

But let's use common sense--They wouldn't have put the WWE Title on him if he was REALLY gonna walk.

So he stays as part of the roster until

1. He loses the title

2. He actually does disappear for awhile.

Thank You

Vjmlhds 03:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Kevin Nash

I still think he should be in the other on air employees section, he makes one appearance and he should not be added to the main roster section, its more likely he will be a bodyguard/enforcer if anything, like Jackson Andrews was for Tyson Kidd (who if i remember right was kept in the other on air employees secton) i can't see him being used as an active competitor regularly, due to his age (just gone 52).

I think putting him in the on air employees for this week and maybe review it once raw has aired next week (22nd Aug) depending on how the storyline has panned out.

cheers

Mjf1987 (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

When it gets right down to it, the "other on air talent" section is basically for those with (primarily) non-physical roles.

If you're getting in the ring beating up the WWE Champion, that is a bit above "Other talent" status.

Bodyguards/enforcers usually see their fair share of ring time (see Mason Ryan as the most recent example) as all these guys are wrestlers by trade.

So Nash on the active list is appropriate, as he's involved in a high profile storyline and is mixing it up phyiscally with Punk.

Vjmlhds 23:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Jackson Andrews was a bodyguard/enforcer and was kept on the other on air employees list though Mjf1987 (talk) 11:19, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I say, for now, keep him in the other on air employees section. He hasn't wrestled a match on TV since the Royal Rumble. Obviously, it could be subject to change, and he could become a full time performer. This is just my humble opinion, of course. Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

It should be apparent that Nash is being brought in as a wrestler, and is starting a feud with CM Punk. You guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

As far as Jackson Anderews goes, he wasn't around long enough to even have a cup of coffee. He was on, then off the roster so quick, nobody even noticed.

Vjmlhds 12:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine with whatever, really. I just don't want this turning into a huge dispute like the Jerry Lawler thing, or worse, the CM Punk thing where people actually thought his contract was up. Kjscotte34 (talk) 13:15, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

so far its 2-1 to put him onto the other on air epmployees so can we not keep him there till he wrestles a match, currently he is only an occasional wrestler (e.g royal rumble). It doesnt help when Vjmlhds never seems to want to agree with the majority and comes accross as if we don't agree with him then we are wrong. If Nash competes next week move him to the main roster in my opinion, but for now he is other on air employees Mjf1987 (talk) 14:39, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

This is turning into a joke, Look you are the only one on the talk page who is against it, he has not competed in a match in 4 weeks, how about you compromise and keep on other on air employees their till he works a match instead of throwing your toys out of the pram when you don't get your own way, its not your article. I am more than happy for Kevin Nash to go on the main roster when he competes in a match but for now he is an old man attacking CM Punk who is only on a legends contract

Mjf1987 (talk) 18:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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The Rock, Booker T, Hornswoggle

Please leave The Rock, Booker T, and Hornswoggle on the main roster.

The Rock has main evented Survivor Series, will main event Wrestlemania, has been part of the Raw opening for 6 months, and WWE treats him more as "part of the show" than a legend who shows up once every 6 months to say hello. He's equivalent to what the Undertaker is at this point on Smackdown. Thus he belongs on the roster...until after Mania.

Booker T right now is involved in a feud with Cody Rhodes, who happens to be Intercontinental Champion. So there's a realistic chance Booker will be competing for, and even possibly winning the I-C Title. Thus he belongs on the roster...for now.

Hornswoggle is a comedy act wrestler. He's basically SD's equilvalent to Santino Marrella...does comedy skits backstage and wrestles in comedy matches.

Vjmlhds 16:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

You're right, plus, Booker has been scheduled to wrestle this weekend at a house show.--Deely talk 18:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. The Rock is not on the main roster. He just shows up shows up once every 6 months to say hello. In fact, Roddy Piper appears more than Dwayne Johnson on TV shows and PPVs, for example.

Booker T's case is different. Is the same that Matt Striker, William Regal and Jerry Lawler. A commentator that has matches and feuds with someone. Even Michael Cole has feuds. No one ever said that his feud with Cody Rhodes will result in a title match.

But I agree with Hornswoggle. He is a wrestler.WWEJobber (talk) 11:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Rock is in the same class as the Undertaker...we've seen way more of Mr. Johnson in the last year than Mr. Callaway. The whole year has had the specter of Rock-Cena hanging over it. Really...when's the next time we'll see Roddy Piper compared to The Rock. A little perspective. And if you look at the link Deely provided, you'll see Booker is actually wrestling Cody in I-C title matches at house shows in preperation for their (probable) PPV title match at TLC. Vjmlhds 14:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Mae Young appears on TV more than The Rock. This is a fact. And even wrestles more matches than him. And I do not know if you know how to read but in the link there are no title matches mentioned. Read it one more time. And, please, do not embarass yourself again.WWEJobber (talk) 16:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Mae Young?!?! Please...who's embarassing who here?!?! All I know is this...WWE ain't counting on Mae Young to rake in millions of dollars worth of ticket sales and PPV buyrates. Come on Jobber... you're being rediculous. Mae Young...Holy reach, Batman! Vjmlhds 19:12, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I am using her an example to show you how ridiculous you are trying to be. Face the reality. It is not hard to use your brain. Try just a little. It will not hurt. In fact you still did not show me where the title matches are mentioned yet.WWEJobber (talk) 19:24, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Nah Jobber he is going to wrestle title matches, I saw it a few months back on PWTorch, so Booker is in fact a wrestler, even if it's only part-time. As to The Rock, he wrestled at Survivor Series, and is going to main-event with Cena at WM28, so until WM28 is over, he should be listed as WWE talent. Last of all, telling someone to use their brain and reassuring them that it doesn't hurt isn't the right way to approach someone here on Wikipedia.--Deely talk 19:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Booker T wrestled Cody Rhodes for the I-C title Friday night in Chattenooga TN. This is as per PWInsider and 411mania. He's also wrestling the whole weekend loop vs Cody, as well as the feud continuing to build on TV. So please, any "Booker doesn't belong on the roster" arguements just got thrown out the window. Vjmlhds 20:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Disagree regarding The Rock, i moved him to the legends section after Survivor Series, he has not appeared since Survivor Series as he is filming a new movie, this will be quite time consuming so it is unknown when he will decide to turn up next, might be tomorrow, might be next week, next month, or not until after the Rumble. Rock is not a full time employee and due to his other movie commitments should be moved to the legends section until he reappears and competes in a macth Mjf1987 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC).

To be honest, we've seen more of The Rock on TV in the last year then we have The Undertaker. Rock has also wrestled more than Taker as well (I know it's one match, but it was the main event of a PPV that was heavily promoted--not some Raw throwaway match). My whole contention has been that when you set the main event of your biggest show a year in advance, include the guy in the opening of Raw, and he has already main evented a major PPV, this indicates that WWE considers him as part of the show (just like Undertaker...even though he's been MIA since Mania) and not just a guy who says hello every so often (a la Hart, Edge, Foley, Piper, etc.) Vjmlhds 00:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Merge Raw, SmackDown and NXT rosters into one

Yesterday, I temporary merged the Raw, SmackDown and NXT rosters into one roster due to both the Raw and SmackDown brands being "Supershows" in which the rookies of NXT are also appearing while listing where Superstars and Divas which brand they are assigned to, but I reverted back because I didn't know if it was the right thing to do. Now I had some time to think it over, I'm asking that if it's ok to merge the rosters into one or not.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 18:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I say no. Personnel are assigned to one brand. That's how they are on WWE.com as well. A wrestler like Cody Rhodes, for example is a Smackdown superstar, and his appearances there are much more frequent than his appearances on RAW. Kjscotte34 (talk) 19:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Same here, no.--Deely talk 19:38, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Leave them seperate. Today, they're doing "Supershows"...tomorrow they may decide to reinforce the split...they're very inconsistent when it comes to that. As it stands now, any wrestlers who compete on the show opposite their own are conisdered as "guests"...that would be the best way to describe the current situation. Vjmlhds 19:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Camacho

Wouldn't Camacho be considered an occasional wrestler? After all, he did attack Justin Gabriel after Hunico's victory over him. Thanks.209.213.145.157 (talk) 03:10, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

NXT Comments

Hi

Could I make a suggestion. As anyone from Raw or Smackdown can appear on WWE NXT, would it be better to add it into the opening text under the bit about the brand. Something like this...

The male wresters of the show WWE NXT are called "Rookies", however anyone on the main roster may make appearances on the show.

This will stop the page being edited all the time if someone starts making appearances on NXT, the only thing that should be listed in the notes section of superstars on the main roster is 'Also appears as a Pro on NXT' it will also keep the page looking alot tidier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjf1987 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Great Kahli

How come The Great Kahli wasnt anywhere on the List of WWE personnel? He just appeared in the Royal Rumble.

He has been added to the roster by another editor. Kjscotte34 (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Unnecessary information in Spanish

Hello. There is a problem, in the section of "Spanish Broadcast Team" must delete, is this encyclopedia of English language and that this information must be unique in Spanish. --187.171.178.136 (talk) 22:22, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

"Inactive" personnel

People who have been injured or suspended within a storyline and don't appear for a brief amount of time are hardly inactive. As a whole, Wikipedia should not serve as a day-to-day update on a character or employee's status to begin with but noting the fictional status of a character is just silly.

Additionally, adding jargon such as "kayfabe" to note every time a development is a storyline is unnecessary as well. It doesn't matter whether it was Triple H's character who made the announcement within the context of the article. The announcement itself is what matters. If the article is being written as a real world article and not within a fictional context, it should note that WWE as a company decided to make this change and not two fictional authority figures within its television shows.

As far as accidentally removing links, I removed source links that appeared to be attached to the items that I removed.NJZombie (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Those links that you removed during your cleaning were profile links to Zack Ryder, Mark Henry and Kevin Nash.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 20:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I've seen that since. As they were placed, it appeared they were serving as sources on the information that I removed. The links themselves could have simply been restored without a full revert but I've since made the adjustment myself. NJZombie (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Sources in Notes section

The inclusion of the footnotes in the "Notes" column doesn't really make sense. If the purpose of the cite is to prove that the person listed as an employee is actually an employee, it should be attached to the person's name in the first column. I've accidentally deleted these cites myself because when people add information in the "Notes" column, they're sticking that information in front of the existing cite making it look like it's a source for THAT information instead. NJZombie (talk) 19:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking of moving the source links away from the notes and place the profile links next to the ring name. It'll clean it up and prevent accidental removal.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

That was my thought as well. NJZombie (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Let's do it. It'll help the page alot.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

JR is not the senior VP of talent relations

JR is listed as Senior VP of talent relations in the article; he has not, however, held this role in many years.

Triple H's Status as a Wrestler

Are you sure that Triple H is mostly a wrestler? I want to list Triple H as the COO, Executive Vice President of Talent, and Occasional Wrestler. Thanks.209.213.155.16 (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Number-One Contenders in Notes

Could we put if someone is the number-one contender for a championship? After all, they could become the next champion. Thanks.209.213.145.236 (talk) 02:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

BTW same guy different computer. I'll change the article for now. BTW I don't know how to put references so could someone do that for me? Thanks.209.213.145.236 (talk) 00:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Omigosh it won't let me edit! Could someone help me? Thanks.209.213.145.236 (talk) 00:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Young, Bateman, Watson

Darren Young, Derrick Bateman, and Percy Watson have been added to the SmackDown roster page on WWE.com - so I think they should be moved to the SmackDown section on here as well. NXT had been run differently in recent months and I think the 2/29/12 episode made it clear that the competition is over. I'd guess the participants are now superstars, not rookies, and NXT is just a show where everybody can compete.

Maxine and Titus O'Neil have not been assigned to the Raw or SmackDown roster page as of this writing, although that may have been an oversight. I guess they can stay in the NXT section for now but I'd guess they'll get moved over eventually too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GMarx22 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC) It should be added but I can't since the page is protected. An authorized user, please update it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.22.125.67 (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I have done this, I have left Maxine & Titus O'Neil under NXT until assigned to a brand. Have also removed all the 'Also a Pro on NXT under the superstars who were Pro's and also removed Jonny Curtis as the winner of NXT as we only have the last winner listed but it seems this season has no winner. Mjf1987 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC).