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India v. South Asia

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Invite to WikiConference India 2011


Hi Mar4d,

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But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach.

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Incase you're not wachlisting

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Talk:Pakistan#Kashmir conflict should be merged

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Re: SPA's

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Talkback

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Salvio Let's talk about it! 18:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

The Modest Barnstar
You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this month! 66.87.0.179 (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, thanks. This barnstar pretty much sums up my suffering of Wikiholism. :) Mar4d (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Attia Bano Qamar for deletion

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Your opinion needed

Hi! your input is needed here. --SMS Talk 19:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll take a look. Mar4d (talk) 10:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your invitation

Thanks for the invitation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan. I don't think I will be able to devote an awful lot of time to it, but would be happy to participate in whatever way I can. - Ahmerkhan (talk) 11:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Hope to see you around. Happy editing! Mar4d (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Like what you've done with the template. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I thought about making the template more appealing. I originally added the Wiki-Pakistan logo but the white background kind of makes the template look ugly, so I've replaced with the flag of Pakistan now if you noticed. I'll probably ask someone to get rid of the white background on the logo, then it'll look appropriate. Mar4d (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I went through the template's edit-history. Btw, why is it not in the template namespace? A border line would do too... try light green background instead of brown when you have time. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Outreach/Welcome a bit too. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Thanks for the suggestions. Will take them into account and see what I can do. Mar4d (talk) 14:13, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, I think they both kind of serve their own purpose. We could update the invitation template though, if you feel that it does not contain enough information. Maybe we could sort of introduce a set of "links for Wikipedians interested in Pakistan" in it (see this; by the way, they also have a seperate template for invitation and another one for welcoming). Mar4d (talk) 00:53, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually on second thoughts, I think it's not a bad idea. The second one is sort of redundant since we hardly use it. But what format do you exactly propose for the new template once they're merged? I just mentioned above that we could introduce a set of "quick links." It just sprung to my mind that we can maybe create a quick links template (similiar to this one) and include it in collapsed form in the outreach template. Mar4d (talk) 00:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We actually never post the welcome after we've invited and it can be actually hard to find the users who you invited and see if they have joined. I was thinking of having the same welcome and invitation template. The format of this template is good, we can put the invitation one inside it on the top and remove any redundant sentences. It will be a single drive by user welcome kind of template then (having invitation and the links) which you drop right after you drop a welcome note. Does that make sense? --lTopGunl (talk) 07:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so what you're saying is that in the new format, we should have the invitation box on the top followed by a "quick links" navigation template below it. And that the invitation box should be updated. Is that correct? Mar4d (talk) 09:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, so that the "welcome to project" template and "invitation template" become a welcoming template together like the wikipedia welcome template. --lTopGunl (talk) 09:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, give me some time and we'll see what we can do with this... Mar4d (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Check out: Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Outreach/Welcome. Feel free to make any changes. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:20, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. Mar4d (talk) 10:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How about modify "If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member" to "If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me or at the WikiProject Pakistan noticeboard"? The noticeboard is usually the perfect avenue to ask a question or queries.. Mar4d (talk) 10:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah go ahead with that and any other modifications you like, we can then redirect the invitation here and update the outreach page. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2012 Siachen Glacier avalanche

Can you check the categories etc (I added some though)? --lTopGunl (talk) 13:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm looks fine at the moment, can't really think of any other category currently that could be added. The article could do with some expansion, here's a source [1]. I'm probably going to sign off for now (it's been a long day), so I'll hopefully contribute tomorrow. That being said, let's spare a thought for the soldiers serving at these high altitudes and hope they're safe. Mar4d (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good then. I'll check the source. Yeah, hoping for the best... the sepoys are generally village people and some times the only supporters in the family. So long then. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note, the BBC source specified in the article discusses the incident in more detail, just had a brief look at it. Probably a better idea to use that as the main source for now. There'll be more information available in a couple of hours. Mar4d (talk) 13:51, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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SMS Talk 14:06, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You probably removed the classification variable from this talk page banner so if it is not to be added back related documentation and now the Assessment drive page may need to be updated. --SMS Talk 14:10, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, these classification variables were actually removed from the template last year. However, the documentation was not updated, hence I believe that this is the source of all the confusion going on. I have left a note on Yasht101's talk page about these now-defunt variables so as to clear up this confusion. The reason that these variables were taken out is because they were not being used much, and also they were redundant to WikiProjects already existing on the topics (eg. there is already a WikiProject Pakistani history and a WikiProject Pakistani politics, hence no real need for the "H" and "P" class variables.) There are also WikiProjects on Pakistani literature, geography and sport however they have not been incorporated into the template yet to make up for the "L", "G" and "S" variables, I believe. Might be a good idea to do that soon. But as far as those non-existent class variables are concerned, I think they should be removed from the template documentation as they no longer exist. Mar4d (talk) 05:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you, they are no more used, so updating the documentation of the template. --SMS Talk 11:41, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir Thank you for your kind invitation and directions and I have already signed up for WP Pakistan and shall certainly be interested in WP Azad Kashmir. I am grateful for your welcome. Regards AsadUK200 (talk) 12:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200[reply]

An award for you

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In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thanks. I shall add this to my very own barnstar (read "boasting") sub-page :) Mar4d (talk) 09:57, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Social group categories for KPK, Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan

I would suggest social groups as opposed to ethnic groups. For example, the KPK is home to groups like the nomadic Gujjars in Swat, Dir and Chitral, who are more a distinct social group then ethnic group. I hope to set up categories for KPK, Gilgit Baltistan and Baluchistan soon, but am a bit busy right now. We also need more articles on various communities, but unlike India where there is an excellent People of India series which covers every state and territory, there is nothing like in Pakistan. The only sources early 20th Century British gazetteers, many of which are out of date. --WALTHAM2 (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply! Your suggestion is fair, we'll go with the Social groups category then. Let me know if you do start, I'll surely be able to chime in and lend a helping hand. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 10:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have already started with Category:Social groups of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Hopefully, will put in categories for both Gilgit Baltistan and Baluchistan soon. Just looking at the entries, some probably need to be re-written, and when I get a chance I will look into it as well.

--WALTHAM2 (talk) 18:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks. I'll get on board with that. I've started Category:Social groups of Balochistan, Pakistan so whenever you get to the Balochistan articles just sort them into that category. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 07:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Pāṇini

Hello! Is there any relation of Pāṇini to Wikiproject Pakistan or Pakistan related categories like Category:Pre-Islamic heritage of Pakistan and Category:People from Peshawar? --SMS Talk 13:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, since he was from Pushkalavati, 4th century BC (which is modern-day Peshawar), the correct working assumption is that yes, both Category:Pre-Islamic heritage of Pakistan and Category:People from Peshawar are relevant in the article. But why do you ask, has someone challenged the inclusion of these categories? Mar4d (talk) 13:46, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh Ok! I didn't know about Pushkalavati's history and neither did I do a detail check that how he is related to Pakistan. No nobody challenged, it was just me. Thanks for the info. --SMS Talk 14:22, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, right. There was a recent debate at WP:PAK regarding adding Pakistan history categories to pre-1947 articles, so I thought someone might've started that argument again. Good work with the assessments by the way. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Expecting to see you more active at the assessment drive. --SMS Talk 14:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Pakistan#GOCE copy edit, April 2012

Hi, can you keep a check on the threads for the copy edit where help is needed. I might not be aware of all the content background checks as some was added by you guys. --lTopGunl (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, a lot of the content is on history, which to be honest, I did not work on much either. But I'll try to take a thorough look and see where and how I can help. Mar4d (talk) 10:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Assassin'S Creed T - E - C - G - 12:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dear User:Mar4d, its User:ldmaa here, thanks for your invitation to join me in WikiProject Pakistan, I would like to work for my it, thanks again. Ldmaa (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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We've asked for an opening statement from each participant here. Sunray (talk) 06:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For more than 200 assessments for the contest: Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2012

You are doing great! Keep it up and reach more heights in the contest. Yasht101 06:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yasht. Mar4d (talk) 09:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opening statement

Hi Mar4d,

You might not have seen it, but we are requesting opening statements for participants in the India, Afghanistan and Pakistan mediation here. Hoping to hear from you soon. Sunray (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay, wasn't able to get my head around this due to a tight schedule. I have emailed my opening statement. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 02:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dammit

You beat me to it [2] BTW, Porkistan is an obvious pejorative and I thought it could go in the Anti Pakistan sentiment article, but I am am unable to find a source, do you know of any? Darkness Shines (talk) 19:51, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is just a pejorative term like many others used for different countries [insert example here] and is not widely used as can be seen from zero reliable sources present. Mar4d (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes for Project

I have also created few userboxes related to our project:

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Hope that you might like it. Thank you and Happy assessments! Yasht101 02:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yasht, that's nice. Mar4d (talk) 02:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kashif Siddiqi

Hi there. I was wondering if you would please help me out, and find some Urdu-language sources for the Kashif Siddiqi article. GiantSnowman 11:27, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiThanks

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Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.2.12 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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