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Bilaternal naming convention

Yes I have learned the naming convention for bilateral relations. So its meant to be Czech-Pakistan relations, and not Pakistan-Czech relations. Güt. (Jalal0 (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC))

Welcome to Wikipedia from Mootros

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Australians in the United Arab Emirates

Hi --- I added a few sources to Australians in the United Arab Emirates. Unfortunately they're not very good sources ... just short, fluffy newspaper articles without any deep analysis. I'll go look for more next week. Cheers, cab (talk) 14:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of British Pashtun

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Canadians in the United Arab Emirates

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Edits

I have seen your ignorant attitude made towards edits that I and others have made. If you have any objection, then ask an Admin to mediate. However, as a Wikipedia user it is important for you to assume good faith. Thankyou, and I hope that someday, you will co-operate instead of argue. Best of wishes. --92.8.202.26 (talk) 12:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I have only added these scriptswhere a substantial connection to India is related; e.g. that the so-called exiled administration of Pakistan-controlled Kashmir issue documents with these spellings on. Having a background in now, what is Pakistan, I don't want to argue this further. However, in article Hinglaj, it should be noted that it is a very well known Shakti Peetha and Sanskrit is used in ancient writings of it. Therefore, I ask not to revert the edits there. --92.8.202.26 (talk) 13:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Message on Talk Page

Please see the following article: Azad Kashmir today -DAWN.com

"Constitutionally, Azad Kashmir is not a part of Pakistan. But neither is it an independent state.....Azad Kashmir is not counted as a fifth province of Pakistan."

I have seen many Pakistani ministers indicate exactly the same thing, even publishing GDP figs without AJK. Therefore, I added it in italics. I would appreciate if you did not threaten me again; and ask politely why I had done something. I was under the impression that you wished to co-operate.

--92.8.202.26 (talk) 11:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I added it because the same method is used for Pound Sterling (See some British Territories in that article where they do not make an overall part of UK, but are under sovereign control); e.g. there was corruption on Turks and Caicos Islands and therefore HMs governor was implemented. --92.8.202.26 (talk) 11:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Sindhologists

There are many institutes to Sindhi study in India - including the Indian Institute of Sindhology and the Sindhi Sangat of Kutch, which co-incidentally is where a distinct dialect of Sindhi is spoken. However, I cannot think of any individual names currently, however, if I come across or remember some, then I will inform you of them. Thanks.

After searching the web, I found an article on a person called Dr.Moti Prakash, who seems to have compiled an extensive Sindhi Literature. However, as Sindhi people are spread throughout areas in India and are not in one main place, less Sindhi study seems to take place than expected. --92.8.217.70 (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Mohmand Agency attack

I suggest moving this to "July 2010 Mohmand Agency attack" as this is normally the format used for other articles, and the title is not sufficient enough (an attack could include anything at any time, hence the need for the date). Mar4d (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Article titles#Precision and disambiguation.
We include such details to prevent confusion with other subjects, not merely to provide additional information. Unless and until we have an article about a different notable Mohmand Agency attack, no disambiguation is called for. —David Levy 05:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkheader on category talk space

Hi. I think {{Talk header}} is not necessary in pages like this one. Please read instructions of Talk header. It should not be in every talk page but only in the ones that can be helpful. Category talk pages usually get a few number of hits and no comments. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 06:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

hmm...thats a problem indeed since i've literally tagged 'hundreds' with the template. Will try to refrain now. Mar4d (talk) 07:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Hm... [1]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry...intense copy pasting going on. Mar4d (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hindko Test Wiki

There is a Hindko test wikipedia. If you would like to see a Hindko wikipedia, please contribute to it; and ask others to do the same.

Thanks. --92.8.124.45 (talk) 15:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi.. regarding Mazhar Majeed

Hi, mar4d.. looks like my complete revamping of the Mazhar Majeed article conflicted with you changing some information. If you're sure of the changes in school and the like, please re-make the changes. I would hold off on the Sydney Test claims etcetera, it sounds like that information is not confirmed yet (and we need confirmation for claims such as that) SirFozzie (talk) 11:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:Economy of Pakistan

I have noticed your recent work on Economy of Lahore and thought you might be interested in voting for TfD of Template:Economy of Pakistan. Please see dicussion if you would like to share your views. Thanks! Farjad0322 (talk|contribs) 14:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I would request that you have a look on the discussion of TfD for Template: Economy of Pakistan. I have posted an idea there. Thanks! Farjad0322 (talk|contribs) 18:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:Lahore

Please mention the article of Economy of Lahore in the Template:Lahore as well. I have hardly any knowledge of economy myself. Farjad0322 (talk|contribs) 14:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Labour in the United Arab Emirates

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Sindbad Amusement Park

You did the right thing by moving the Sindbad, Faisalabad to Sindbad Amusement Park. But my concern is that is it really a park?Joyland, Lahore is an amusement park, Sozo Water Park is also an amusement park, Safari Park, Karachi is another one. Sindbad, however, is more likely to be an arcade...Don't you think so? It has roof top, it is basically a building...not a park. I suggest that name of the article is moved to 'Sindbad, Pakistan' instead...It does not fall in the criteria of amusement park. Farjad0322 (talk|contribs) 07:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you are right..I personally do not know since I have never been to one of them although I did have an idea it was some sort of theme park. If 'Sindbad, Pakistan' is more appropriate, then I support the move. Mar4d (talk) 08:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Muhajir communities template

I think creating a template is an excellent idea. I’m going through a busy patch at work, but when I get some free time, I will get on it. I also notice the Muhajir article has been vandalised on a number of times, and would suggest semi-protecting it, so that only registered users can edit. Some of the statements put down have been thoroughly racist.

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TfD nomination Template:Science in Pakistan

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TfD nomination Template:Sport in Asia

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AfD nomination for Major rivers of Pakistan

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Proposed deletion of Empress Market

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Thathaal (clan)

Hi Mar4d , you have changed the title of Thothal/thathaal to Thathaal (clan). The reason for having double title is that this article is a copy/paste about a group Thothaal. All the details are in the discussion section. I have suggested to change the title to "Thathal", because there isn´t any clan with Thathaal or Thothaal name. But we have four villages named "Thathal" in Pakistan and India. There are some who called themselve "Thothal". I was planning to explain this in the article. Moreover some from this calim to be Jatt while other claim to be Rajput. A lot needs to be deleted from this article because those section under the titles of "History" are completely unsourced, unreferenced and completely fabricated. I have given the link in the discussion section to the site where this article was copied from. All the objections about the article are also in the discussion area. Would you mind to change the title of the article to "Thathal", because this has to come there after sometime. There is already two "Move tags" in the discussion section. One of the tag is more than ten days old. I put a new tag today, just to make sure that if somebody got late and did not respond in a week, then he should have the chance. But since you are an admin, and your opinion carry more weight. Can you please change the title to "Thathal" ( NOT " Thathaal). Shukria (thanks) in advance. RegardsJogibaba (talk) 16:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. First of all, I am not an admin as you have mentioned above; also, I am not very knowledgable on the topic. What I do know is that the current title did not conform to Wikipedia's naming conventions and that's why it was changed temporarily. If you do feel the new title is not appropriate, you may just need to wait until an admin reads your move request on the talk page. As has been said before, the title should consist of only one name, while others can be redirects. Mar4d (talk) 03:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Mar4d, thanks for the reply, Possibly you might have noticed that I have written a lot about the fabrication of this article. This article is a copy/paste of this article http://www.forumjar.com/forums/topic/History_of_Thothaals . This article was about "Thothaal" and not "Thathaal", The person who pasted this article here on wikipedia is Atwozee, (he is currently banned for 2 weeks). I have challanged the autenticity of the article with all the proof. But instead of coming to discussion Atwozee is coming with such remarks about me "Actually Jogibaba wants to upset this page because he has some personal anger on thathaals, the real story is this "A thathaal fucked his sister wildly so he is taking revenge. Bloody Bastard, son of bitch". Lolz!!!" this he has written while remaining unlogged (Revision as of 23:10, 17 September 2010 (edit), later he wrote on his page "Jogibaba wants to delete this page from wikipedia so block this kind of users on this page, he is mother sucker and even do not know about his real father name, the name mentioned on his birth certificate have no proof, kindly ask from his mother."( this is still there on his page.) Since he is banned now, today he is writing under ip "we are great people and very organise not like you gujjars/Kanjars, or chora chamars, Ok???", Everytime he pretend to be a different person. I need a help from an admin from asian section to sort this matter. Admins from English section does not know so much about this. The reason I want that article to be extensively edited is that now a days Wikipedia is considered as a genuine site, people base their research on articles from Wikipedia. Now the worst thing is going to happen that a book is coming/has come in 2010 which would be based on wiki article. I think Wikipedia should keep to its reputation rather than being a place which is spreading misinformation ( thanks to people like Atwozee), Please get me in contact with some admin who can sort this matter. Regards and Khuda Hafiz Jogibaba (talk) 17:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
You may want to report your case at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents where an admin will come and help you. Mar4d (talk) 02:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sanam Baloch

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Falling rain

See this. Please look at the google map. Does there REALLY looking like 13,000 people living in that village? Every article of yours which uses falling rain data is false except coordinates. PLease remove this source and information obtained from falling rain from your articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm..!! Thank you for the short and alarming alert. Falling Rain was the only comprehensive city-town directory I was aware of. The problem of course is that when I remove those links, those articles would become unsourced. Also, what other options are there for creating settlement articles (without using the said source)? Mar4d (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It very difficult starting articles on villages in most Asian countries due to lack of government sources. I'm currently building Burmese villages on here; Burma is one of the worst countries in the world for reliable government sources. I draw up lists by subdistricts using www.maplandia.com and extract the coordinates from those. I then match them up to google maps and bing maps to ensure that a] the settlement does exist and can be seen visually, b] Modify the coordinates by 1/60th to give a more precise coordinate fix if possible c] If possible I try to find a historical mentioning in an Imperial gazetteer in google books which is sometimes successful, most of the time not. The most important thing is that the villages are verifiable and can be proved on current google maps and are not in the middle of some forest/desert with not a sight of a settlement in miles.

Can you please remove the data and link to falling rain? You'll have to trust me on this. I've started more articles on settlements than anybody on here... That website is only accurate for coordinates and village distances.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You can find lists of settlements e.g for Abbottabad District here. Scroll down and you'll see a big A-Z list. Such lists areaccessible by region and district for all of Pakistan. ONes like Chaintri are better when you can actually see a village at that given location. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the tips and advice. Will try to take these points into account. Best, - Mar4d (talk) 18:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll do an example for you with Chaintri shortly. Something like that. In fact you could work through an area of Pakistan using google maps to find nearest settlements and building it that way and finding the coordinates from maplandia (e.g next you could start an article on the village of Adda or Daitri etc and so on. Ideally they needs further sources but only if you can find one.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Prod of Onamunama Combined School

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Latif

I'm dubious about [2]. Are you asserting that because his father was an Ahmadi, Latif must be too? I don't understand your logic. According to our page, Ahmadi is a religion movement not a ethnic one, so is not inherited William M. Connolley (talk) 07:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Well the insertion was based more on the obviousness of it, given the fact that his father was an 'imam' i.e. a religious authority, belonging to the sect. If it's inappropriate then let's leave it here. Mar4d (talk) 11:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Its inappropriate, without some evidence of his own personal beliefs. I'll take it out again William M. Connolley (talk) 17:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Urdu

You've reverted Urdu 6 times today. Please don't do it again, or I'll report you for WP:3RR. (I already blocked one editor for edit warring here, but won't block you myself because I'm now involved.)

Factually, no, Urdu is not a "dialect" of Hindustani, it is Hindustani: the defining feature is that it's spoken by Muslims. That's supported by the source. Two people may grow up as neighbors and speaking the same dialect, yet the Muslim will be said to speak "Urdu" and the Hindu "Hindi". Dialects are defined by the language itself, not by the religion or ethnicity of the speaker. — kwami (talk) 07:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I have not contested it being a register of Hindustani. I generally added its status as an Indo-Aryan language which should be the first thing mentioned. Also see the introduction for Hindi; "the name given to various "Indo-Aryan languages", dialects, and language registers spoken in northern and central India......" In practice, the family language is always mentioned first. The Urdu article always had this introduction until it was removed some time ago; it should be re-added. The detail about it being part of the Hindustani language should be mentioned afterwards. I hope you do not revert my edit. Mar4d (talk) 07:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Also, I find a contradiction. Urdu is not Hindustani, it is a standardised register of Hindustani. There is a difference in that. Phenomenally, Hindustani is not one unified language. It is pluricentric and has two different forms i.e. Hindi and Urdu. Hindi and Urdu are both different languages which have different writing systems and literature. They are only indistuingishable verbally i.e. when informally spoken. Mar4d (talk) 08:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Standard Urdu is a standardized register, but Urdu in general is just Hindustani spoken by Muslims. Urdu and Hindustani were actually synonyms for a long while, but at present the defining feature is the religion/ethnicity of the speaker. Hindi is not comparable, because it's not a coherent concept: it may be a standardized register of Hindustani/Urdu, or Hindustani when spoken by Hindus, or a language family which includes Hindustani. Standard Hindi, however, is comparable. It is misleading to say that Hindi and Urdu are "Indic languages", because that would seem to put them on par with lects which actually are different Indic languages. — kwami (talk) 08:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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The notice placed on Namira Salim states, in the original bold format: Do not edit this page until an administrator or an OTRS agent has resolved this issue. So please refrain from removing it again. You ought to read through the links in the notice above, they're important, and although it's a lot to take in it will explain why you can't just alter a few words and claim to have removed the copyright violation. Bigger digger (talk) 12:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

State parties

Sorry, should have checked that, but it is a confusing phrase. Dougweller (talk) 09:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

No worries :) Mar4d (talk) 09:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of Emiratis in the United Kingdom for deletion

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Thanks!

Thanks for your note about User:Geo Swan/not ready yet/Lahore safe house.

I am a bit too busy to do that move right now, as, as was pointed out in the rfd, it would then be open to an {{afd}}. I am not ready for more {{afd}} at this particular moment.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 12:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Diaspora articles

Hi Mar4d! I would be happy to start articles on Indian diaspora in the Middle East. You're right, there are large Indian populations there and there only few articles made (e.g. Indians in Iran, Indians in Israel and Indians in the United Arab Emirates) while I have been creating articles about Indian diaspora in Latin America and East Asia. Right now i'm more focused on the Nepalese diaspora and immigration to India articles. If i have the the time, i'll start creating articles on Indians in the Middle East especially Indians in Qatar and Oman. Hope to hear from you again. Peace.DaTraveller (talk) 11:01, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you. Let me know if you require any help :) Mar4d (talk) 11:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Cheers! DaTraveller (talk) 15:17, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 2 - November 2010

English WikiProject News

After a missed issue, the WP:IND newsletter is back on track to being a regular bimonthly feature. The Indian WikiProject has seen plenty of online and off-line action, both in English as well as other Indian languages, and we now have a bigger, better format that intends to feature content and news from the English as well as other Indian language Wikipedias.

Reaching out to Indians has been the theme of the Indian Wikiproject over the past couple of months, aiming to involve a greater number of Indians in editing both the English and Indian language Wikipedias. To this end, efforts to set up the Indian chapter of Wikimedia have moved into their final stages, and registration of the society is currently pending. An effort is underway to push for "WikiMarathons" at meetups, where attendees will be encouraged to edit the English and/or Indian language Wikipedias. This is intended to popularise Wikipedia editing among the general public. In addition, a bot to post DYK's from the Indian Wikiproject to Twitter was created and launched by User:Logicwiki.


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Regrettably, the number of Featured Articles has dropped from 63 in June to 58 at the end of October 2010. Several FAs came up for review and were delisted, while Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India was saved. Meanwhile, Chalukya Dynasty appeared on the main page on July 9, 2010. Hearteningly, the number of Good Articles increased from 130 to 136 during the same period, while the number of Featured Lists remained constant at 16.

The source code for the Article Alert Bot is now available and the bot itself is expected to be up and running very shortly. This means that article alerts for the Indian Wikiproject will again be available, enabling editors to easily keep track of developments in respect of reviews, nominations, deletions etc.

The date change vandal mentioned briefly in the previous issue made a reappearance when the range block on his IP range expired in September. Consequently the block was extended till September 2011.

In October there was a heated discussion in the India project noticeboard regarding the copyright status of the Indian party symbols. The discussion was triggered by the deletion of Wiki San Roze's party symbol images by Hammersoft as copyright violations. No resolution was reached, partly because of our inability to explain to Hammersoft how election symbols in India differ from party logos. Comments are requested from anyone with a background in Indian copyright law to clarify this issue.

Complete To Do List
News from Indian-language Wikipedias
  • The Bengali Wikisource, which contains the literary works of many prominent writers of Bengali language including Rabindranath Tagore, has crossed the 5,000 pages milestone. According to List of Wikisource page, Bengali Wikisource is now at rank 21 among 56 Wikisource based on number of content pages.
The Tamil Wikipedia stall at the World Classical Tamil Conference 2010 in Coimbatore in June 2010.
Jimmy Wales introduces the Malayalam Wikipedia CD of 500 selected articles during his key note address at Wikimania 2010 at Gdansk.
  • The Hindi Wikipedia and its sister wiki projects migrated to the new vector interface on September 1, 2010. In addition, Hindi is the first (and so far the only) Indian language to be incorporated into the WikiBhasha translation and contribution toolkit developed by Microsoft Research.


Community news
The first meetup in Delhi on 22 September 2010.

Mumbai and Delhi held their first meetups in September, where Wikimedia Board members Barry Newstead and Bishakha Datta met up with Wikipedians and other interested members of the public in these cities. A month later, Hyderabad also held its first meetup.

Arun Ram, Shiju Alex and Barry Newstead releasing the Wikimedia India community newsletter at the nineteenth Bangalore meetup on 24 September 2010.

Wikipedians in Bangalore continued their tradition of meeting up regularly at the Centre for Internet and Society, with the nineteenth meetup in September featuring Barry and Bishaka as attendees, and marking the release of the community newsletter. Along with Delhi and Mumbai, Bangalore is reported to be one of the three cities in contention for the Indian office of the Wikipedia Foundation.

Jimmy Wales speech at the Mumbai Wikipedia Meetup #3 on 31 October 2010. Intro by User:Bishdatta & User:Arunram. (Recorded by User:AshLin.)

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales had an interaction with Wikipedians followed by a presentation to members of the public at the third Wikipedia meetup in Mumbai on October 31, 2010.

The first Wikimarathon, where Wikipedians and members of the public were encouraged to contribute to Wikimedia projects onsite, was held simultaneously at the meetups in Bangalore and Chennai on November 14, 2010. Wikipedians in Delhi also held a meetup the same day.

The Malayalam Wikipedia held several academies in different parts of Kerala over the past few months.

Wikimedia Foundation board member Bishakha Datta and Indian Wikipedian Srinivas Gunta co-authored a panel presentation at Wikimania 2010 on the Wikimedia Asia Project.

Current proposals and discussions
  • This interesting discussion on the quality of editing in India-related articles has been underway for on the noticeboard a few days. Feel free to join in and express your opinion.

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Indian Diaspora

Hi Mar4d! I created two new articles about Indians in the Middle East, Indians in Kuwait and Indians in Oman. Enjoy! DaTraveller (talk) 13:13, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello DaTraveller....the articles look great :) Just for the record, I've added an 'education' section in each and its just got a list of Indian-curriculum schools in the country. When you create other MidEast articles, see if you can do the same, as there are lots of Indian schools in the Gulf states and its handy to pop up a group of them on the diaspora page. Your work is otherwise generally fine, so keep up the work :) Cheers! Mar4d (talk) 15:02, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Castles vs Forts

Hello! I noticed that you created a new Category:Castles in the United Arab Emirates and have added Dubai Museum to it. In fact there's already a Category:Forts in the United Arab Emirates which is the correct term to use in this case. "Fort" is almost always used for similar structures in the Arabian Peninsula. While "castle" is usually used for residences of nobility, especially in Europe. Regards. -- Orionisttalk 02:46, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

You might be right, they do indeed have conflicting definitions. I originally got the impression of it being a castle though when I read about it here on the Dubai Police website; "The first prison in the Emirate of Dubai was Al Fahaidi Castle which is the present site of Dubai Museum...."Mar4d (talk) 03:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I see. That was just mis-translation on the part of Dubai Police. Native English sources always say "fort". Regards. -- Orionisttalk 21:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Indians in Cyprus

Hi Mar4d! Yeah its kinda weird that the Hinduism article talks about Indians in the country rather than about Hindus or Hindu Temples. The problem is that the infomation in the Hinduism in Cyprus page dosen't have much sources so theres nothing much that i can do. By the way, Cyprus is also part of the Middle East, well according to the page anyway.DaTraveller (talk) 12:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. While considered to be in the Middle East, it is described as a 'Eurasion' country and my designation to 'Europe' was based on that. However, as you suggested, I read the Middle East article itself and now understand what you mean. I am therefore currently going to revert the change I made on the NRI-PIO template. Thanks; Mar4d (talk) 12:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Abu Dhabi

Portal:Abu Dhabi, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Abu Dhabi and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Abu Dhabi during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 23:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hello, please could you translate the article for Chandigarh at Urdu Wikipedia to Urdu?

I had spent a while converting the article from Gurmukhi to Shahmukhi for the Shahmukhi Wikipedia, in return could you translate it to Urdu?

It would be much appreciated.

--92.8.35.103 (talk) 15:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

UAE relations pages?

Hi. Were you planning to add material to your new articles, ‎Qatar – United Arab Emirates relations and ‎United Arab Emirates – United Kingdom relations? Unless some more info starts showing up soon, I'm concerned they're likely to get marked for speedy deletion (see WP:CSD#Articles, category A3, "no content"). Richwales (talk · contribs) 07:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I will try to address the concerns though I would request not to proD these for the time being as the articles under question are extremely important topics. Mar4d (talk) 09:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


Your Good Faith Edit At Asif Ali Zardari

Hi there, can you please provide citation to your edit here I am rolling it back for the time being since it goes against Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons Sarmadhassan (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm.. no, I have done a search and cannot find any reliable sources to back up the statement. I got the impression originally on the film's page, and if you understand Urdu well enough, there's a brief clip here. Mar4d (talk) 09:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
That is a nice find. I will consult with some administrators to see how we can incorporate that into article because we cannot put this link as a reference but if we can find out the date it was aired on Dunya Tv, we can work refer to the show Hasb e Hilal itself. Sarmadhassan (talk) 10:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Pakistan (orthographic projection).svg

Over at the Commons you reverted the changes to File:Pakistan (orthographic projection).svg, but a little later reverted yourself. The map issue was raised at the article talk page, and I believe that the version as of 05:35, 24 November 2009 is better than the current one. I don't have an account at Commons and wouldn't want to edit-war with you anyway, but could you please explain why you decided that the current version was to be preferred after all? Thanks, Huon (talk) 22:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I know very little about operations at Commons, and without an account I 'm not sure I can upload files or undo changes to files. Your original reversal looked good to me; it certainly appears correct in the file history. Could you please just repeat what you did there? Thanks, Huon (talk) 14:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Done. And it worked :) Mar4d (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Good job, thanks! Huon (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)