Talk:Zlatan Ibrahimović

Origins

Zlatan's father is of Bosniak origin and his mother is Croat, both from BiH. His father is not Roma origin but Bosniak.(Dolina 14:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)).

His mother is from some place near Zadar, Croatia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.188.139.105 (talk) 17:13, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Origins 2

Zlatan is a real bitch. Zlatan's father is Bosniak from Bosnia,and his mother is also from Bosnia,etnically Croat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.78.199.52 (talk) 23:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Origins 3

Would it be appropriate to say that he is of Yugoslav origins?

No it wouldn't, that would imply that he is serb which he is not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.115.185 (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

No that would imply that his origin from Yugoslavia, which he is. ← chandler 10:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

My opinion is that due to former bad/nationalistic occurrences in ex-YU it would not be appropriate to put that he is of YU origins. Because here almost each citizen know own nationality (Slovene/Serb/Croat/Bosniak/Macedonian/Montenegrin/Roma...). And only small percentage of people declare himself as Yugoslav.
Also stating as proposed above would not imply that he is Serb.
--Čikić Dragan (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Parents' Place of Origin

I've noticed that someone has added that Ibrahimović's mother is actually from Zadar. I'm assuming that the person is thinking of the mother's place of birth and possibly also where she grew up. I'm quite sure that both of the parents are from Tuzla but it's possible that the mother is originally from Zadar before moving to live in Tuzla. Later, the family left Tuzla for Malmö, Sweden as the article points out.

If the above is correct ? I'll change the article so it says again that both parents are from Tuzla and add that the mother is originally from Zadar. Awaiting feedback. - Zec 23:15, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I've searched the internet in order to find some sort of support to the anonymous edit that claims that Ibrahimović's mother is actually from the Dalmatian city of Zadar in Croatia. However, I haven't found anything that supports this claim. The only thing that my search supports is that Ibrahimović's parents are Bosnians with the father Šefik being an ethnic Bosniak and mother Jurka being an ethnic Croat.

So I'm going to change the page so it again says that both parents are Bosnians with the only difference between the parents being their ethnic origin and not their national origin. - Zec 20:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Not a wise change :-) Too bad it appears to have been here for more about eight months without being corrected. Zlatan's mother is Croatian and as far I know she has never lived in Tuzla. Zlatan's parents met in Sweden, not in former Yugoslavia. I don't have any Internet-sources, but one of Sweden's main newspapers had a large article when they visited the village that Zlatan's mother grep up in. It was a small village just outside Zadar. Isber 19:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Zlatan's both parents are from Bosnia.There are 3 ethnic gropus living in Bosnia-Bosniaks,Croats and Serbs.His father is a Bosniak and his mother is also Bosnian(bosnian Croat).It's like if he were from Switzerland from a father who speaks german and a mother who speaks french.He would have no other nationality but Suisse.So,Zlatan is a Bosnian,born in Sweden.He has 2 nationalities-bosnian and swedish.Dolina 11:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Can the croat that is changing his mothers origin please stop posting lies about her being from croatia because she is not. She is bosnian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.205.154 (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it seems this article is just another being transforme in extension of the "Yugoslav Wars". The ethnicity of the parents is not such important fact except for those interested in using Wikipedia as mean of political dispute. I suggest just to mention what is undisputed: "His parents were born in former Yugoslavia and emigrated to Sweden from city of Tuzla, in Bosnia". Mcampos69 (talk) 11:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC) == [[He is proud. He is really proudAll this know

The above is NOT correct, it's just another Bosnian trying to Bosnify a SWEDISH player. Moder is Croat, father Sinti-Bosniak - they met in SWEDEN. *furious* —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonfyah (talk • contribs) 03:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

This Bosnians are really silly, they trying to cheat that his mother is from Bosnia, which is not. Just like Serbs are saying Novak Djokovic's mother isn't Croat. Fact is, Zlatan's mother is from some place near to Zadar. You can even find the places where are Gravić's are from: http://imehrvatsko.net/cmspage/20880/gravic

Beside that he stated that few times on croatian televisions as in croatian newspapers. Once he was in Zadar he sleeps he is at his aunt's place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.188.252.196 (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

new sections

Just added new sections of quotes and "said about". Thought it might be interesting if they would be expanded by others. Cheers! serrano 18:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Ibrahimovic's international options

@DJ Bungi Zlatan could have played for Croatia the same way Niko Kovac or Boris Zivkovic could and did. Or Joey Didulica or anyone of Croatian descent. Or the way Mauro Camoranesi is from Argentina but plays for Italy due to Italian descent on his mother's side. In Zlatan's case, his mother is Croatian - that made him elgible to play for Croatia. He obviously chose not to, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have the option of doing so under FIFA rules if he wanted. 65.94.128.174 21:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

If Zlatan didn't play for Sweden,otherwise he could only play for Bosnia because he has 2 nationalities-Bosnian and Swedish.He has no croatian nationality or passport.Dolina 12:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

According to sky sports news,it's being reported that ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC is having a medical at manchester united and his transfer should be completed in 3 days time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilceza (talk • contribs) 12:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought his parents were from Bosnia and Serbia, not Croatia.

Religion

Could we add his religion?

sure. but as long as it is verifiable. __earth ^(Talk) 15:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Zlatan did state in an interview that his mother was Croatian... I'm pretty sure she was born in Croatia, otherwise how could of had Croatia asked him to play for them, it would of had been impossible, if his Croatian forebearers immigrated to Bosnia 200 years ago.

"...how could of had Croatia asked him to play for them..."?
Why not? Croatia asks players of Croat origin (that are citizens of other countries) to play for Croatia. Many Croats, born in Germany, play for Croatia, although their families are Croat families from Bosnia and from Herzegovina. Slaven Bilić has actually asked him to join the croatian team when he took over the Croatian national team in 2006 but Zlatan declined.
"...if his Croatian forebearers immigrated to Bosnia 200 years ago." In fact, mostly is the case that those Croats immigrated fromBosnia and from Herzegovina to Croatia. Kubura 07:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Big Bird look-alike

especially in his Sweden kit. I find it an interesting fact that the two are not related.

Haha, it's true!! http://www.google.com/images?q=big+bird&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=isch:1&ei=mEM2TKvbKNeJOOyfvOcD&sa=N&start=21&ndsp=21

exactly the same! haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.186.57 (talk) 21:32, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Caps

94 goals in 44 games for Sweden? Surely not.

Google link text error

The text describing this page on Google reads: "Includes personal information, career, playing style and playing style." Not sure how this can be changed but an error nonetheless. Jack 15:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Internazionale

"On October 2nd 2007 Zlatan gave his critics a double blow and scored two goals in the UEFA Champions League against PSV Eindhoven, scoring in Europe for the first time since December 2005, his first European goals in an Inter shirt."

Italy is in Europe and he's scored goals in Serie A since 2005. I'm guessing it's supposed to say Champions League goals instead but I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.217.223 (talk) 03:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Normally "in Europe" refers to in european competitions, rather than domestic ones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.110.175 (talk) 01:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

No mention of international options?

I see that the whole section on his international options has been completely taken out. I can understand why some editors would be hesitant to get involved in such a topic, but to not mention it at all is a little unfair. Here's an interview where he mentions it from just over a year ago:

"Zlatan began his career in the club "Balkan". He was its greatest talent, becaming the key player at just 15-years of age. His first coach, Višegrad refugee Rasim Suljkić, long tried to push Ibrahimović's appearance for the Bosnia-Herzegovina national team. Five years ago, when Bosnia's A2 selection went to a tournament in India, Zlatan received a call-up. He gave a thank you but didn't respond, for he didn't want to play with the second team."

"'I asked 'Where are Salihamidžić, Baljić, Barbarez, Hibić, Bolić...' I'm not pretentious, but simply know how much I'm worth. And that's how I never played for Bosnia. To be honest, I'm not even disappointed. I was born in Sweden and I play for my country. Some were saying that I would play for Croatia, but there was nothing to that. If you must, I feel more Bosnian."

Triva section?!

What the heck happened tp the trivia sectiion?! It was amazing; it offered a hodgepodge of iteresting facts about Zlatan (i.e. Tae Kwan Do, Nationality, LIkes/dislikes. Instead they cram that fact that he shares Isaksson's birthday uo in the opening. I'm resurecting the Trivia section, if anyone wants to help. We can put the hole nationality bit in there as well... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kallstrom11 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 35.11.149.104 (talk) 00:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Does trivia belong in an encyclopaedia? Sorryitwasme (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

SEXY BABAYYYY

Is he a Muslim?

Ibrahimovic sounds like Islamic name, is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.111.196.253 (talk) 02:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

no he is Catholic according to his Myspace although he might be atheist Spiderone (talk) 18:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC) ثیلب Aha. Nice one unsigned. :D He stated in the L'Equipe interview that his mother is Catholic, dad is muslim, and that he is "just Zlatan". And he said he did believe in God. So I'd call him agnostic at best (or a non-practicing Christian or Muslim). I can't find an online link to the interview though. --Lilyserbia (talk) 05:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

He is has muslim roots but is a non practicing Muslim... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.151.224.29 (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Just because his name sounds muslim doesn't mean he is. He has admited that he only believes in God, although his dad is muslim and his mom is Roman Catholic. Also, his MySpace pages are created by other users, and are therefore fake. So is his Facebook and Twitter page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dathangy (talk • contribs) 20:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Zlatan is a believing Christian, Catholic http://www.gp.se/sport/fotboll/1.306382-maltorkan-inget-som-oroar-zlatan --129.16.144.82 (talk) 10:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Naturalized?

His father is Croatian and mom is Bosnian and he is Swedish.Does that mean he is naturalized?

Answer: We don't know. It depends on a number of factors. But first, both his parents are from Bosnia though his father is an ethnic bosniak and his mother a croat.

Scenario one: Zlatan's parents come to Sweden and after five years of residence one or both become Swedish citizens. When Zlatan is born he becomes a Swedish citizen at birth.

Scenario two: Since Sweden did not allow dual citizenship at the time Zlatan's parents may have chosen to keep their Bosnian citizenship. Zlatan would have been born a Bosnian citizen only and after 5 years could apply for Swedish citizenship. This process is called notification, or simplified naturalisation.

Sweden didn't allow dual citizenship until July 2001 and Zlatan was in the Swedish national team in January of 2001 so we know he had Swedish citizenship (and not Bosnian) after whatever scenario took place.

And now we don't know either if Zlatan has dual citizenship. When the Swedish law was changed he did have the right to apply for Bosnian citizenship too. But we don't know if he did. --Lilyserbia (talk) 05:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

He's done interview where he was asked if he ever considered playing fro Bosnia or Croatia - one of the reasons he gave (apart from being SWEDISH) is that he didn't even have citizenship and never had - in his own words he was "a 100% Swede". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonfyah (talk • contribs) 03:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Malmö FF

While in his early teens, he was a regular in hometown club Malmö FF, whose participants consisted of Bosnian and Somalian immigrants of the Rosengård neighbourhood, some up to twenty years his senior.

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I must say that Malmö FF is a proffesional club and as such has players from all around sweden and maybee some international players but it didnt consisted (or consist) of bosnian and somalian imigrants. Thats is probobly true about the Balkan team but not for Malmö FF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.6.162 (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I also reacted to this. Malmö FF has no policy of using many/only immigrant players, and team members are mostly of Swedish origin. Malmö FF is not in any way known for using neither Bosnian nor Somalian players. I simply deleted the phrase "whose participants consisted of Bosnian and Somalian immigrants of the Rosengård neighbourhood, some up to twenty years his senior." Catrambi (talk) 03:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Nickname?

I have never once heard Zlatans nickname as "the Ibrahim". The most commonly used nickname for Zlatan is of course "Ibra" and secondly "Il Genio" (The Genius). So I think that should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.175.243 (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That was my exact thought when reading this article. In the earlier parts of Ibrahimovic's career he was almost always referred to by his first name, "Zlatan", at least in Swedish media. Only after he had been given the nickname "Ibra" in Serie A did Swedish media to some extent follow, and often referred to him as Ibra. Even today, among Swedes, the only name ever used to refer to Ibrahimovic is simply Zlatan. The last name is seldom used, since there are few other Zlatans to distinguish him from. The name Ibra seems to be used by most Italian media, whereas Swedish media use both Zlatan and Ibra. But "the Ibrahim"? I have NEVER heard ANYONE use that nickname for Ibrahimovic. Ever. Catrambi (talk) 03:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Encyclopedic?

"Ibrahimovic's 08/09 season started brilliantly, hitting the back of the net in Inter's first league match. His goal against Bologna was voted Goal of the Year. He scored it with his heel without moving and accurately into the net from a cross from Brazilian Adriano.[10] Ibrahimovic's form this season has so far been eye-catching, with clever movement off and on the ball, and his passing has been outstanding, such as his acrobatic pass against Lazio [1]. He ended a month long goal drought against Genoa, handing them their first home loss of the season, making Inter the only team not to lose at home in the league."

This seems to be have written by a "Fanboy" and not worthy of an encyclopaedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.209.184.230 (talk) 09:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

HE IS AN AWESOME PLAYER SO GET OVER IT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.95.239 (talk) 17:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

No the article is not encyclopedic at all and this kind of bias does not do Wiki a favor, nor do some back-end comments wich would be more appropriate on Youtube (such as the one in block letters above).

International goals?

How many goals did Zlatan score himself, in the international games? 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 17:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[1] 20 in 56 matches. chandler 18:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Should probably be added to the table. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 19:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone please make the international goal chart. You can find the goals in his ESPN statistics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dathangy (talk • contribs) 20:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Name

Since Zlatan was born and raised in Sweden, and has always held single Swedish citizenship, his name is actually spelled "Ibrahimovic" and not "Ibrahimović" (without the ć). The letter ć doesn't exist in Swedish alphabet. This is the name he is registered with in Swedish national registration records, and I've never seen the spelling "Ibrahimović" anywhere else but on Wikipedia. /Slarre (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This is the player's jersey: it is Ibrahimović, so it's untrue it is only Wikipedia who refers to him with the 'ć' letter. Also [http ://www.football-pictures.net/r-ibrahimovic-254-ibrahimovic-1489.htm here] and here. And, notably, he happens to play as Ibrahimović even with the Swedish national team, as clearly visible here. He was referred as Zlatan Ibrahimović also by UEFA, in its EURO 2008 portal. --Angelo (talk) 16:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, you are right. My bad. /Slarre (talk) 19:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}

{{editsemiprotected}} Add link to Zlatans offical Twitter https://twitter.com/zlatans_offical

Done. -Optigan13 (talk) 04:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Not his real twitter. its fake --Dathangy (talk) 21:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Barcelona

come on update it traded to barca for eto'o and 35 million euros. source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8155593.stm

The transfer is not finished yet. The source you're linking to even says that the clubs have reached an agreement but now it's up to the players to negotiate contracts. If for example, Eto'o demands to much, the affair won't go through. 78.70.163.165 (talk) 19:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

-> It should be mentioned the deal that Inter and Barcelona did, but mentioning that both Eto'o and Ibrahimovich need to agree contractual terms with theeir potentially new team to the deal go on just as a reference of the possible transfer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Octa62 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Ibrahimović is still with the Inter squad. He just participated in their friendly on the 21st. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.229.120 (talk) 20:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Ibrahimovic's move isn't official yet. Neither is Eto'o's, but yet they have removed Ibrahimovic from the Inter squad and replaced him with Eto'o. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dathangy (talk • contribs) 08:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== Personal Life ==Once again Zlatan is not married to Helena! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koresh7 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, it is not allowing me to edit, so can someone else add that he is learning Spanish as well, not just Catalan. Cheers!

ZLatan Plays For FC Barcelona

Zlatan Ibrahimovic Plays for FC Barcelona, not Inter Milán ROFLMFAOOO (talk) 05:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Nothing is official until he sign on the dotted line. Right now, it is a verbal/gentleman agreement. Nothing law-abiding yet. He will be a Barca player in the next 24 hours or so. But right now, he's still play for Inter Milan. Elsonlam1 (talk) 07:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess it's official now? --79.151.23.161 (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I feel it's time for someone to change his picture to a picture with him in Barcelona uniform. --71.62.160.138 (talk) 06:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

New Zlatan Ibrahimović picture has been added with FC Barcelona uniform. Old Inter Milan uniform changed as he no longer plays for Inter Milan. Darkplanner (talk) 07:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Picture removed due to copyright, so I choose another image from commons (free licence). Darkplanner (talk) 08:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Categories

Someone should add "FC Barcelona players" in the Categories section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geronimo355 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

English

I changed some of the English on this page; fairly minor, but made some sentences read better. These changes have been changed back for some reason. Let me say as a native speaker that saying someone "went scoreless" is rubbish. Saying someone "did not score any goals" is better. Saying he is "married to his wife" is rubbish. To whom else would he be married? Please change back. Tack så mycket! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.121.155 (talk) 21:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Super Copa de España and UEFA Super Cup

He played one match in each of these and it should be accounted for in his appearances (on the statistics table) as it is part of the 2009-10 season.

Be bold and change it Spiderone 07:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

Someone find better pics. I would, just don't know how

Unfortunately they need to be free ones and not just ones of Google Images. Unfortunately Flickr doesn't have many better ones available. [2] Spiderone 07:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

-his height is 192cm,read the article where u got the 195cm from,its written in there on the barca website.its says he stands 1.92 metres tall.the 195cm they have on the left is obviously an error.i'd appreciate it if this was changed by someone who can,hes listed as 192 everywhere else.

There's too many horrible pictures in the article. Mind if I delete some? Sandman888 (talk) 23:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

His height is 192cm 6ft 3 and a half

his height is 192cm,read the article where u got the 195cm (1) from,its written in there on the barca website.its says he stands 1.92 metres tall.the 195cm they have on the left is obviously an error.i'd appreciate it if this was changed by someone who can,hes listed as 192 everywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogstar (talk • contribs) 09:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

the medical was official and it is correct. the 192 must have been from his time at inter. i dont know how he grew 3 cm while being an adult, but lets just go with the official and most recent physical exam. therefore, 195 cm is correct.--Dathangy (talk) 00:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

its an error,it says in that article were (1) is beside 6ft 5 that he is 1.92,read it,he is the same height as gerrard pique when u see him play. theres no way hes 6ft 5,against man utd he was at least 2 inches smaller than edwin van der sar and just a bit taller than rio ferdinand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogstar (talk • contribs) 08:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

In an interview with Inter Milan, he even stated that he is 196 cm & 90 kilos. It's on YouTube. --Dathangy (talk) 07:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

do u have a link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.224.106 (talk) 08:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

if you look at the page in catalan (spanish) then you'll see that it even says 192 cm in the left box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.254.46.231 (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

192 cm is the correct length. I even have a card from when he was 18 and played for Malmö FF where it says he is 192 cm.−− — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.230.179.4 (talk) 22:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Sweden National Team

Just a quick note: he has not officially retired from international football. He just said he will not take part in the friendlies and Euro qualifiers for now. He is "taking a break". Let's leave it as it is. --Dathangy (talk) 00:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I read that too. It seems there are no other players that sync well with him, so he isn't as useful as in the leagues. He seemed disappointed, but politely didn't bring it up. He merely stated that the national team didn't have any important upcoming games for the meantime, and he would focus on the league games. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 09:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

It should be just 'Ukraine', no need for the 'the'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.116.163 (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Languages

I have to say it is actually nothing short of ridiculous to claim he speaks Bosnian and Croatian. I mean, if you want to point out his parents are Bosnian, than you say he speaks Bosnian.

If you want to point out he speaks Serbo-Croatian or Croato-Serbian, which is actually common name to the group of languages spoken by Bosnian, Croatians, Montenegrinians and Serbs than put it that way.

If you want to point out the political structure of Balkans than you should list all the languages he speaks, including Serbian and I would guess Montenegrinian. But what does that have to do with Zlatan???

I would personally leave it at Bosnian and leave out Croatian or any additional languages because that is misplaced here. BalkanBoy1980 (talk) 09:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

He does not fluently speak Spanish & Catalan.

He doesn't speak Spanish at all. When he is interviewed, he is asked in Spanish and he answers in Italian, but the audience understands him, or the press thinks it does.

He is not fluent in Bosnian/Croatian either. He speaks it somewhat fluently, but not without difficulties (as can be seen in filmed interviews). His mother tongue is Swedish (Scanian dialect). --81.237.202.5 (talk) 23:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

People Bosnian and Croatian is NOT a language. It is like saying you speak American. Its called Serbo-Croatian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.235.69 (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Barcelona section needs serious editing

There is way too much finely-detailed information in the Barcelona section. He has only played 13 league games for Barcelona, yet the section is over twice as large as the Internazionale section, where he played for 3 years. Minute details such as, "He continued his great start to the season by opening the scoring for Barcelona, in the second minute, versus Atletico Madrid in his third league match, leading to a 5-2 win for the Blaugrana," need to be removed. There is no cause for a blow-by-blow description of his entire 09-10 season. phreakydancin (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Statistics

can someone please add how many assists he have mad in inter or in barca in the statistics

Would someone like to make a chart from the left side of this page in his statistics? http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada09-10/01/n100126108987.html --Dathangy (talk) 07:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok I found out what a talk page is, I had no idea. it makes a lot of sense to have one. In my opinion, it is necessary, to include in any football player's statistics, the number of assists that player has produced. Assists may not be as significant as goals in many people's opinions, but the fact is that some of the best players in the world are recognized more for their creative passing, or their passing skills (ex: Xavi, Iniesta, ballon d'or nominees 2010, Andrea Pirlo, David Beckham and the list is long) than their goalscoring prowess. Therefore, showing Ibra's number of assist would reflect to the average football enthusiast that he isn't just a goalscorer, but also a gifted playmaker. Moreover, assists are officially counted in some of the most prestigious competitions in the world (English Premier League, Spanish Liga, UEFA Champions' League etc...) Whether or not the Italian Calcio officially recognizes them is of minor importance, because at the end of the day, Zlatan has played in the Spanish Liga, and also continuously in the Champions' League. Hence, the question is: why should his present-day playing in Serie A determine his overall career assists not to be counted? Lega Calcio does not encompass Liga BBVA or Champions' League in terms of importance (it's more like the opposite in my opinion). Lastly, this is his wikipedia page, not his official Serie A player profile, so it should not matter whether the Italian officials count his assists or not. The fact is, he DOES make those assists regardless, and they are recorded by cameras from around the world and listed in various football websites of good reputation (ex: soccernet.com). Lega Calcio does not endorse Wikipedia for making Ibra's official player page. Ibra's page is based on neutrality, and neutrality does involve counting assists for a football player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.23.174.158 (talk) 21:56, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Please update Stats, 16 games 10 goals, 9 assists, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.23.175.2 (talk) 16:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Ibra's height

He's not 6'5. More like 6'4 or 6'3 and a half. The Barca site has two different entries for his height. One is under the entry for his height, under personal detials, the other is nearer the bottom in the main text of his profile.

This is what the text says:

'He stands 1.92 metres tall and combines great technique with a powerful physique, making him particularly feared by defenders in the air, as well as making it difficult to take the ball away from him.'

Whereas under personal detials it says he's 195.

I've always thought he was more like 192 than 195. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.177.249 (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Not so known fact, he is 100 kg. I would like to see this is the basic info of the wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.58.141.249 (talk) 20:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I have met him at a signing, he is certainly taller than 1.92m. I would have said 1.94m, although not 1.95 or 1.96. I am 1.98m and he was probably an inch and a half shorter than me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.34.50.73 (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

If you look at various pictures of him, it looks as if he is slightly over 6'4", but not 6'5". 1.94m seems right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.34.55.223 (talk) 14:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Honours - Juventus

No title has been actually won with Juventus FC side. Moreover, only the 2004-05 Serie A championship was revoked, whereas the 2005-06 championship was never assigned to Juventus. Correction is needed. --WTer (talk) 04:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

He is awarded Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year in 2005 with Juventus and this title has not been withdrawn because of the scandal. Moreover from this [3] it is clearly understood that he himself takes pride about those Scudetti won with Juventus. P|^|C (talk) 21:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes

This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Edit request from Littlestewie, 26 August 2010

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^ Player Profile: Rafael van der Vaart – realmadridzone.com retrieved on 7 December 2008 this must be ^ Player Profile: Rafael van der Vaart – realmadridzone.blogspot.com retrieved on 7 December 2008

they are two diffrent web sites Littlestewie (talk) 00:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Celestra (talk) 00:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

AC Milan

The contract signed with AC Milan involves an obligation to buy him after one year which would be the more correct way to phrase it rather than an option.Makwaba (talk) 13:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Height issue

Here: 195 cm.

here: 192 cm.

Anyone? /Orrling 94.230.86.191 (talk) 21:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

He is 195, 192 is an old measurement that Juve and Inter sites have inherited from Ajax one without measuring his height again to put it on the site. After medicals in Barcelona and Milan in recent years his height was measured 195 by both teams medical staff.

Your second link doesn't work, here's one working and he is 195 http://www.acmilan.com/en/teams/roster_player/2044 Newadventures (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Wage

the page claims he is joint hihgest paid player int he world with kaka at 9million a year but on chrisitano ronaldos page it has a cited reference saying he is payed 11million a year and is the hihgest paid footballer in the world some clarification would be good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.97.192.185 (talk) 21:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ibrahimovic's father is not a Bosnian Serb

Ibrahimovic's father is a Bosniak. I really don't understand the motives of whoever changed it to Bosnian Serb, but that has to change ASAP. His dad has always been a Bosniak... he has been a Bosniak as long as I remember this wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cv51181 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 15 April 2011

• Ibrahimovic is not a Bosnian-Serb, he is of Bosnian and Croatian decent. His father is Bosnian 24.57.150.230 (talk) 17:19, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

• His father is a Bosniak and Ibrahimovic is NOT a Bosnian-Serb. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 17:23, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

• Sefik Ibrahimovic is a Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) not a Bosnian-Serb. Same goes for Zlatan. Pasalic12 (talk) 18:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Please provide a source for his nationality and familial descent. Everything on Wikipedia has to be verifiable especially in biographies of living people. Woody (talk) 20:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Where is the source that says Ibrahimovic is a Bosnian Serb? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cv51181 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Question for Woody

Did you verify John Gradwell's edit where he edited Ibrahimovic's wikipedia page to say his dad is Bosnian-Serb? Serious question. I don't understand the double standards here; you want us to verify something that is true (his dad is Bosniak), yet you didn't verify something that is clearly false (his dad being Bosnian-Serb). Wikipedia has quickly become a dreaded bureaucracy. Here's an official source:

http://www.zlatan-ibrahimovic.com/bio.php

Sefik is a Bosniak name by the way, so it should make even more sense that his father is Bosniak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cv51181 (talk • contribs) 00:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I've reverted John Gradwell's edit. Mea culpa in terms of not checking the edit history of the page when that edit was reverted. I apologise for not checking that. However none of the links provided as verifying his identity are reliable sources. This is a fansite with information copied from wikipedia, this, this and this are also self-published sources, some mirroring content from here. If there was a verifiable source that could be linked to, that would avoid confusion. Regards, Woody (talk) 10:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 16 April 2011

Please stop with the spamming of edit requests. Discuss below, but do not create edit requests.

He's not Bosnian-Serb, he's Bosnian. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 00:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 16 April 2011 http://www.zlatan-ibrahimovic.com/bio.php Clearly says his father is Bosniak. Sefik is also known as a Bosniak name. Having him listed as a Bosnian-Serb is clearly false information. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 00:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Edit Request for False Information Proof that he is NOT Bosnian-Serb http://www.oleole.com/zlatan-ibrahimovic/biography/phi4xa.html http://soccerstar-id.blogspot.com/2008/05/zlatan-ibrahimovic-biography.html http://www.zlatanibrahimovic.azplayers.com/biography.html I would honestly love to see where the proof was for when it was changed to Bosnian-Serb, cause i guarantee there was not any legitimate sources. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 00:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 16 April 2011 The source shown for the "Bosnian-Serb" comment even states that his father is Bosnian. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 02:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Alrighty now - anyone who is a semi-sentient creature and knows anything about the Balkans knows that Zlatan is half Bosniak, half Croatian. This alteration is obviously political, so please have it fixed. There is not a single Serbian in the history of the human genome with the last name Ibrahimovic, and Sefik is a Bosniak name, clear as day. BYRONIC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.143.198.61 (talk) 07:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 17 April 2011 Thank you. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 03:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC) Edit request from 24.57.150.230, 20 April 2011 Thanks for changing it. 24.57.150.230 (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Rs583, 26 May 2011

In career statistics, for Milan, the stats the 2010/2011 season and "total" number of stats for Milan do not read the same. Rs583 (talk) 02:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done Good spot. GaneshBhakt (talk) 05:49, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Best Player of 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.55.140 (talk) 16:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Zlatan's father

...is a Bosniak.,It states that he is Bosnian Bosnians do not exist as an ethincity.The name Bosnians is used to describe all three constitutive nations in Bosnia and Herzegovina.Bosnian Muslims(Zlatan's father),Croats and Serbs who all live in Bosnia and Herzegovina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.129.112.165 (talk) 19:16, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 30 October 2011

requesting to provide more information:Ibrahimovic' then scored against Bate Borisov in their next uefa champions league fixture which they won 2-0.He then scored against Parma on the 26th of October in the 73rd minute in a 4-1 victory on matchday 8 of the serie A and continued his scoring run as he scored a header brace against roma in a 2-3 away win whcih helped bring Milan's title retention race back on track Football101 eshan (talk) 13:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. From your request I am unclear as to what you would like me to change for you, could you please clarify this for me? Thanks, Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 01:44, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 November 2011

Please change "Current club" from Gjerdum IL to A.C. Milan and change "current number" from 12 to 11. Here is AC Milan's English website: http://www.acmilan.com/en/teams/roster_player/2044

63.246.191.208 (talk) 19:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thank you, the subtle vandalism went unnoticed. Zidanie5 (talk) 21:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 March 2012

It seems that the club statistics table - the sum for columns 'league apps', 'cup apps', 'europe apps', 'europe assists' differs from the sums of respective 'total' values. They should be 350, 28, 91, and 17, if the rows are correct. I wonder whether these are just typos (europe assiscts probably is) or indicate that perhaps different sources were used for sums and particular seasons. 68.175.50.84 (talk) 02:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

 Done I've adjusted them based on your request, taking into account the change earlier today. I notice that the Malmo FF league apps total doesn't agree with the individual years, so there are more issues here. If you want to identify the discrepancies, I'd be glad to adjust those as well. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 20:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request on 18 March 2012

This is a very simple writing request to correct the structure of a sentence.

The Line: On 5 January 2012 in a match against Napoli on continuation of Serie A, Ibra awarded a red card for slapping Salvatore Aronica in an off-the-ball incident and will rule out of Milan's next three games.

Should be: On 5 January 2012 in a match against Napoli on continuation of Serie A, Ibra was awarded a red card for slapping Salvatore Aronica in an off-the-ball incident and was ruled out of Milan's next three games.

Reasoning: The original sentence was a bit confusing with the section, "Ibra awarded a red card", and the following tense, "will rule out of Milan's next three games.".

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.89.246.78 (talk) 03:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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Zlatan's new book - I am Zlatan

should i add this to the section of his personal life ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.61.87 (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Update end of Milan section with final goals

The end of the Milan section currently reads "He is currently on 26 goals in 29 matches." However, seasons is now finished, and he ended up with 28 goals in 32 matches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.91.170 (talk) 08:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Could a section be added to the milan bit

Just thought the fact that the 2011/2012 season was the first in which he didn't win the league may be an interesting fact which could be added to the ending of the current season Milan section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffy453 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Fix the pronunciation

The one listed is wrong, the correct: pronounced [zlǎtan ibraxǐːmoʋitɕ].

Edit request on 12 July 2012

Ibrahimovic has been sold to PSG, AC Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi has confirmed, along with Thiago Silva.

Allenico (talk) 19:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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It has not been 100% confirmed on any club websites, this is simply a apparent quote from Berlusconi and should be reverted until official confirmation from either club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catchy875 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Kit Number

Why is his number listed as "10"

He wears 11 for Milan