Talk:Resident Evil 6

calling it now

inb4 a new addition to the main article regarding that the 6 looks like a giraffe getting a blowjob by a woman. it has started spreading as a joke on the internet. KRISHANKO (talk) 00:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm keeping an eye on the article. I'm sure others will too. The Moose is loose! 01:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

And I was wondering what the hell was that giraffe supposed to mean. If not for your comment, I would probably never guess :P. Thanks! 84.40.254.176 (talk) 22:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks like you were right; I just had to revert one.-- OsirisV (talk) 15:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

it will eventually have to be put in the article when the logo goes mainstream (and obviously, fox news is on it) KRISHANKO (talk) 06:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Where's Ashley?

So Leon, as we all know, saved Ashley from that village somewhere on the coast of Spain in Resident Evil 4. In the trailer for Resident Evil 6, we see him facing off against the zombified president--Ashley's father. So Leon's obviously in the White House, where the president and his family live, but we don't see Ashley. Where is she? Did she die? Is she trapped in her university in Massachusetts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.95.18 (talk) 00:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

- its kinda funny how this man has stayed in office for seemingly 3 terms. he was probably the president during RC, and in his re-election shut down umbrella, and now he is (seemingly still shown as president. many (yes, weasel talk because there is no information) fans theorize the blonde with the merc is ashley. i reject this theory because... what would ashley be doing wherever the game takes place? KRISHANKO (talk) 04:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, according to Degeneration the president of 1998 resigns (the US were Umbrella's main customers in bio-weapons, remember). The introduction to Resident Evil 4 suggests that Graham is new to office in 2004 - presumably that resignation screwed up the system, because he's being protected in the Autumn (not after November as only "President, elect"). We can't confirm when the game takes place - somewhere between 2008 (literally ten years after Raccoon City) and 2013 (ten years after the five-year Raccoon Trials end) - considering how each official source is different. Hell, we don't even know if Ashley would be in the game since a lot of websites (rely-on-horror, for example) backed out of that in favour of IGN's assumption - Sherry. Unfortunately, IGN failed to provide an adequate citation (an insider, apparently) and their wiki displays either names, depending on which page you're on.-- OsirisV (talk) 05:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

do take into consideration that he said "long friendship" to leon, and that takes me back to leons epilogue from re3. thats why i thought graham was president during RC. KRISHANKO (talk) 00:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Capcom has since settled the matter - it takes place in 2013, and the President is an individual unrelated to Graham, who recruited Leon into the "secret military agency" (the original script doesn't confirm them to be the Secret Service).-- OsirisV (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

The Blonde Girl is actually Sherry Birkin in the new trailer realised yesterday, leon says "Sherry?" and she answers by the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leon5555555 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Wii U version

Nintendo and Capcom are working a lot closer together as of late, especially releasing a number of high-profile games for the Nintendo 3DS, including two exclusive Resident Evil games, and with more 3DS Resi games to be expected in the future as well. (Source) Considering the release date of Resident Evil 6 in late 2012, it should not be surprising if Capcom would announce the game is coming for the Wii U at some point. What is really surprising is them not announcing a Wii U port alongside the other HD console versions at all! This should be an interesting note.

There was also a time when Capcom attempted to see what would Resident Evil 5 look like on the Wii, using the Resident Evil 4 engine. Of course, it did not really out-shine the HD variants, but it still looked impressive for a Wii game all the same. It was really a shame it was just an experiment on Capcom's behalf, and not an actual decision to port the game for Wii. Hope(N Forever) (talk) 16:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

RE4 was experimental, yes. Its gameplay was reviewed and found to be too complex for the Wiimote. As such, the Chronicles titles were changed to be on-rails, first-person shooters. I'm not sure if Capcom's thinking of porting RE6 to the Wii U; the issues are likely to remain present, and I'm not sure gamers would be as interested in an on-rails version of RE6, even if it ends up as a linear room-to-room game.-- OsirisV (talk) 16:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Whilst the Wii U does indeed support the Wii Remote, the console has a different standard controller, which is more or less based on the traditional game pad controller. Besides, even the Wii itself is not always about motion-gaming, considering it even has its own traditional controller, despite the fact it is not standard. Hope(N Forever) (talk) 00:08, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

It was in an interview - they thought RE4 was too hard to play and so decided that any other Wii games of the series would be more simplistic in their gameplay (eg. Chronicles turning into an on-rails shooter). You did bring up something interesting - why not just use the Classic Controller? It looks like Capcom only thought about motion sensors for the games. I admit that I haven't looked into the Wii U's specs very much and apologise. My argument was based around motion-sensored gaming and not the more conventional game pads.-- OsirisV (talk) 13:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

It seems that Capcom recently announced that they have no plans to bring the game for the Wii U at this time. Then again, the game is still being released very late in the year, which leaves a long period of time to reconsider. I bet they might change their minds after E3 in June. Hope(N Forever) (talk) 17:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Ada Wong isn't the main enemy in the game

The real enemy is called Carla Radames and it is named as "Ada Wong Clone" here is the info and it is also in Capcom's official blog and RE wiki http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/resident-evil-news/resident-evil-6-leaked-character-list-from-a-few-months-back-seems-to-have-been-real/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leon5555555 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

The RE Wiki says nothing about Radames except that Ada read up on her at one point. The picture shown on the page doesn't look anything like Ada, at all http://residentevil.wikia.com/Carla_Radames . The entire "clone theory" comes from unblurring a name in this photo and pretending it's somehow related to Ada. So my statement that Ada's the antagonist stands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.26.56 (talk) 03:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, this was in a rumour about a leak back in January, just before the game was announced officially. It said stuff like Wesker's son appearing in the game and there being a "Carla Radames", who was a duplicate of Ada Wong. However, because it's a leak we can't confirm any part of it until Capcom makes it official (either through their gameplay videos, trailers or through game's release), so we can't confirm what was part of the initial leak (and was confirmed) and what was fanon added in by random Forum users as part of a joke.-- OsirisV (talk) 09:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

the polish leak

how come theres no section for the game being released in poland a few days ago? KRISHANKO (talk) 06:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Can you actually back it up that it's real? There's been some really-neat Halo Reach fakes released in 2010. Further, is anything more than "the game was leaked in Poland" necessary for this article? Both points are why there is no section on it. We're not a gaming site with a rumour-mill section that buzzes about everything; read IGN for that.-- OsirisV (talk) 13:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, it's legit. [1] Spartan198 (talk) 10:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Relyonhorror isn't exactly reliable considering its tabloidal design (huge rumour-mill section). According to a couple users at Project Umbrella and a few message board sites, Relyonhorror is believed to have faked that 2011 "leaked logo" in order to gain a larger viewership. As much as I dislike them for their AMY review (reducing the Plot score because of the Gameplay defeats the purpose of having multiple scorecounts) and having not recognised the existence of Survival Horror as being more than a generic Action game, you should consider IGN as a more legitimate source.-- OsirisV (talk) 15:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Here's the IGN source confirming the leak: [2]. Also, I'm wondering if NEOGO is considered a reliable source for this information considering the leak, since they reported it first. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not really familiar with them. Odd... why is IGN saying that it's a German copy of the game, when the screenshot displaying subtitles shows characters not present in their alphabet? Funny, even the Polish language doesn't even use a "z with grave". Looks like someone in the translation department screwed up when they should have used a "Z with dot".-- OsirisV (talk) 17:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

NEOGO is the official website of NEO Plus. Also of course it's not a "German copy", IGN is being idiotic as usual. The box is in German, though (and oddly). You should just read the original article, instead of some Chinese-whispers retellings. Oh, and if by "translation department" you meant this of Cenega, and not IGN, it's simply the Polish letter ż and it's all fine (and ź also exists, but "że" has a ż). --Niemti (talk) 21:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Restructuring of the Plot section

Due to the nature of the game - four long campaigns not chronologically distinct - I feel that we should consider re-writing the section to focus on these campaigns, as a general Plot summary would be hard to write. Why I think it would be hard to write is the point that they are not chronologically-distinct, with some parts occuring months before others, yet alongside other campaigns. Simply structuring it as "Meanwhile, in Leon's campaign...", ignores the concept altogether, making it particularly-confusing when the section is expanded after launch: Leon meeting Jake earlier in the campaign than vice versa gives the impression that Jake's campaign takes place over a few days. That, in itself, leads to further problems when Chris' campaign involves exploring Edonia some six months prior to Leon's campaign. Overall, I'm saying we should consider restructuring, but I won't do it unless I know there's some agreement to it.-- OsirisV (talk) 08:41, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, the problem is being able to source what happens considering the game has yet to be released. If the story arcs are not connected, we could just give a paragraph to Leon's, a paragraph to Chris', etc.Tintor2 (talk) 14:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Lock

There are multiple instances of edit trolling in this article. I think it needs to be locked from general editing for the time being. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.110.129 (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Really? I haven't seen any of that giraffe stuff for weeks.-- OsirisV (talk) 23:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

It's not just the giraffe stuff. Various times have I seen genre get switched around and every so often I will notice a sentence that makes a claim that the game sucks. It's just little things trolls like to do. It has become a problem and I think a lock may be necessary if the instance does get worse. Otherwise, if things mellow out a lock shouldn't be necessary. But that's just me. 72.177.215.237 (talk) 17:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Game being bashed completely

I think this article deserves to show how bad fans over the world are reacting to this game. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/resident-evil-6 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resident-evil-6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.155.3.4 (talk) 20:29, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The article will have an appropriate reception section in time, but rushing to something or simply saying something can be a very bad edit, or even tantamount to vandalism. Be patient. Incidentally, it is not being bashed completely, as you have stated. The reaction is 'mixed' not 'negative. --ProtoDrake (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

He meant the massive trolling in the so-called "user reviews". --Niemti (talk) 21:08, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I don't think we need take such reviews into consideration, given the amount of language that can be used (and believe me, I've seen some of them and they would make many people wilt). --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Problem with Metacritic users, it's near impossible to gauge what is legitimate outrage and what is just "trolling", not to mention the fact the many low scores were there BEFORE the game was even out. Stabby Joe (talk) 23:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I just thought, since Mass Effect 3 got a similar reaction, we should consider it. Also, just played Resident Evil 6, kinda disappointed :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.155.3.4 (talk) 00:19, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that that should really be taken into consideration. One, the user reviews (and professional reviews in general) are all just opinions of an individual or group all being placed onto some number scale. Two, It's not like you see somebody give the game a 2 and suddenly it should turn you off by it. It's all opinions. It's not like there wasn't a game you've played that you enjoyed and yet many considered it "sucked". Or say there was one from the opposite side. It's really nothing new. Call of Duty, Battlefield, Final Fantasy, etc. all have their fans and haters. It's just the trolls make their opinions more verbal than fans do when something is dead-on popular. 72.177.215.237 (talk) 01:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Pretty much, in a nutshell. The only time this form of backlash has been used in an article is when there has been coverage and for more specific reasons (see Portal 2). Stabby Joe (talk) 12:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

As I said, it's Internet trolling. It's China-Japan crisis related, btw. --Niemti (talk) 17:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

All the more irrelevant then. Stabby Joe (talk) 16:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually the bad Mass Effect 3 user reviews are actually not included in that article. The part that is covered is the negative reception that user had for the game's ending and that got a lot more significant coverage from reliable sources that these user reviews have. Unlike the Mass Effect case government agencies such as Better Business Bureau in the US or the UK's Advertising Standards Authority have not weighed into this dispute nor has bigwigs from Capcom have responded to this whereas Bioware's co-founder and CEO Ray Muzyka did in the ending controversy. The two cases are not comparable. This is more comparable with the case of Diablo III where the consensus was not to add user reviews.--70.49.83.129 (talk) 02:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

That said future reviews from reliable sources may very well cover some if not all of the points that were mentioned in the user reviews so in the end the section could have all the same info save for mentioning the user reviews.--70.49.83.129 (talk) 03:02, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Also one of the reasons I added the Hiroyuki Kobayashi comment was not just it being a developer response but an acknowledgment of "fan reception" being an apparent issue. I'd consider that more a point of reference than trolls on Metacritic. Stabby Joe (talk) 23:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

That right there is relevant enough to add I think. But the reason I think reviews from users (especially on sites like metacritic) are irrelevant is because they are simply complaining about a game that not only they spent their money on to get knowing full well what to expect from reviews, but also that they could've spent that money on a game that they know would've been a better buy. Complaining about a game you bought (or got as a gift, as in someone else bought it) is like going to a restaurant and ordering that chicken burger when there are 11 other meals up there and complaining that you simply don't like that chicken burger and you think that restaurant ripped you off. It was your choice completely and the people who put it together worked hard on putting together. There are tons of other great games out there on the PS3, don't dwell on one... especially if you saw it coming. That's how I see it at least, call me crazy but I just find it all silly.72.177.215.237 (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

They're not even "complaining about the gamne", it's CHINESE TROLLING. How many times should I repeat it? --Niemti (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Consensus: "Survival" vs. "Dramatic" horror

I'm adding in this section so that we can come to a proper consensus regarding what genre to define this game as.

On the one hand, we have the 'dramatic' crowd, who say that because the developers did not intend it to be a Survival Horror title, it should not be defined as such here. To this group, saying that the game is a Survival Horror title goes against the conventions of the genre; the intentions of the developers and would be considered simply original research.

The other side, in support of 'Survival Horror', maintains that the series itself is of that genre, and that all reviewers define horror games as 'survival', regardless of whether or not the titles actually conform with the original description (as is the case of Resident Evil 5).-- OsirisV (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

The obvious question would be what are reliable sources and Capcom calling it. If Capcom and all other reliable sources are calling the game Survivor Horror and Dramatic Horror is a term created by people on Wikipedia or people on message boards because they think that this game is not Survivor Horror and that they know better than reliable sources then Dramatic Horror should absolutely not be used since it would be a obvious disregard for WP:RS, WP:OR, WP:WEIGHT and likely several other policies and guidelines. If, on the other hand, Capcom reclassified the game as Dramatic Horror and reliable sources have followed suit with that change the genre should be changed to Dramatic Horror for obvious reasons. Too sum my point up if the first case is true Wikipedia can't create a genre or arbitrarily decided a game is part of a genre when reliable sources say otherwise but if the second case is true there is no problem with Dramatic Horror.--70.49.83.129 (talk) 01:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually it may be a bit easier if someone can list where the term Dramatic Horror came from and who is using it because it will be easier to know if the term should be used here.--70.49.83.129 (talk) 02:02, 9 October 2012 (UTC)