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Good article reassessment for Literary sources for the origin of the Romanians

Literary sources for the origin of the Romanians has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thraco-Roman

  • You seem to have some knowledge of the subject, I would suggest you carve out about 10 hours over the next few weeks and do the work, it would be a valuable contribution to human knowledge. Cheers.--Milowent • hasspoken 03:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I've additionally tagged Svyatoslav III Igorevich and Roman II Igorevich on the same grounds.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 22, 2012; 18:23 (UTC)

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Nomination of Literary sources for the origin of the Romanians for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Literary sources for the origin of the Romanians is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Ladislaus Kórógyi

Why Ladislaus instead of László? --Norden1990 (talk) 10:47, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I accept your argument. But you have to draw the line to when you use the Hungarian form. Note: Bálint Alsáni has Wiki articles in Hungarian form (de, fr, hu, it, no). --Norden1990 (talk) 08:24, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Liszt's letter

Hi, been trying to find someone to help me translate this 1867 letter from Liszt to a music publisher in Budapest called Laszlo Kugler. It's for the article Henri Gobbi. User:Norden1990 passed me over to you, once he claims he can't speak enough english to translate it. Maybe you could help. Krenakarore TK 19:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tisztelt Uram,

Túlzott szerénysége, mely akadályozta Önt, hogy Pesten létemkor felkeressen, visszatetsző előttem. Kellemes lett volna, ha őszinte dicséretemet - szerzeményeit illetve - személyesen és behatóbban tárgyalhattam volna. Művei elvitázhatatlan tehetségre, finom és józan zeneértelemre mutatnak. Ha kínálkozik alkalom, szívesen és körülményesen fogok a dologhoz tartozó tárgyakról Önnel beszélgetni. Egyelőre fogadja legjobb köszönetemet ide mellékelt leveléért, valamint érdekes és elismerésre méltó szerzeményeiért.

Barátságos tisztelője
Franz Liszt

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Stephen Majláth and Emeric Balassa

Are you sure that these two guys served as voivodes until 1541? According to "Markó 2006" they functioned as voivodes until 1540, after they were appointed Captain Generals of Transylvania by the Diet of Segesvár in August 1540. The Hungarian Catholic Lexicon also confirms my source. --Norden1990 (talk) 15:17, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hu:Kategória:Tuva_járásai

Hi Borsoka,

I happened upon the above category on the Hungarian Wikipedia and noticed that some of the Tuvan districts are spelled as a weird application of Russian Cyrillic rules. For example, Тес-Хемский кожуун is the official Russian name. On the English WP we use the official Russian name but do not indicate palatization (see Administrative_divisions_of_the_Tuva_Republic). In Tuvan it is Тес-Хем кожуун (they do not palatize the 'te'). The Hungarian WP has 'Tyesz-hem', with Russian palatization. In that case it should be 'Tyesz-hemskij' since it is a direct transliteration of the Russian official name. Following Tuvan would result in 'Tesz-hem' as a direct transliteration of the Tuvan name. I noticed a similar problem with 'Csegyi-holi járás (Чеди-Хольский кожуун)'. In Tuvan it really is Csedi-hol. Do you know what the policy is on the Hungarian Wikipedia regarding names like this? Is it to transliterate into Hungarian spelling the native Tuvan name or use the Russian pronunciation? --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 23:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

use of sidebar in articles directly

...is a bad idea. Please make a template for this. If you need help with that, let me know. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you

Hungarian Barnstar of National Merit
For all of your excellent work in creating articles about history of Hungary. Wear it with pride. Norden1990 (talk) 09:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Banate of Mačva

I requested move in the case of Banate of Mačva article. May I ask you to tell your opinion? See: talk page. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Raab, Talk:Napoleonic Wars

Hello! Segítségre lenne szükségem, ez közös ügy: néhányan a győri csata cikkből elakarják távolítani a magyarokra, mint hadviselőfelekre vonatkozó részt, olyan tarthatatlan érvekkel, hogy Magyarország egy tartománya volt a Habsburg Birodalomnak és nem létezett 1809-ben. Az egyik szerkesztő, aki sorozatosan visszaállít, francia, a másik aki azt a kijelentést tette, hogy nem volt magyar különállás a Habsburg Birodalmon belül, román. Mindegyik semmitmondó külföldi véleményekre hivatkozik. A román szerkesztő szerint minden külföldi könyv arról ír, hogy csak osztrákok vettek részt a győri csatában. Doncsecztalk 17:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.236.101.149 (talk) [reply]

Austrian Empire vs Kingdom of Hungary

  • "As far as I understand, the above debate has originated from a statement that the Kingdom of Hungary was part of the Austrian Empire (the latter being established in 1804). Is there any reliable source stating this?"

If your statement is true (and usually those are :) ) we should take a look at page of Austrian Empire because it treats Kingdom of Hungary as an "organic" part of the realm. Actually there is only one statement "Kingdom of Hungary...constituent land of the Austrian Empire". Maybe it should be corrected. Also, the first sentence of page of Kingdom of Hungary (1538-1867) is perhaps a bit inaccurate.

  • The Kingdom of Hungary between 1538 (1526) and 1867 was part of the lands of the Habsburg Monarchy, while outside the Holy Roman Empire, and part of its successor, the Austrian Empire.

Was not it? I am a bit unsure. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Napóleoni háborúk

Szia! Én sajnos rosszul fogalmazok angolul, lehet, hogy valamit nem úgy sikerült leírnom, ahogy akartam. Mindenesetre azt akartam kifejezni, hogy a Pragmatica Sanctio elfogadásának magyar részről a magyar önállóság biztosítása volt a feltétele. Ezért koronázták meg Mária Teréziát külön Magyarország királynőjének is. A Pragmatica Sanctio be nem tartása nem indok arra, hogy az önálló magyar országgyűléssel rendelkező Magyar Királyságot az Osztrák Birodalom részének tekintsék. Remélem, azért sikerül dűlőre jutni az ügyben, a nyilvánvalóan elfogult vitázókkal szemben. Ahogy elnézem, az utoljára hozzászóló amerikai történész is legalább annyira ért Közép-Európa történelméhez, mint annak idején Wilson... Laszlovszky András (talk) 19:21, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your undo of my citations

Borsoka,

Here's the quote from Creation Myths of the World, page 26:

A similar story to the Buriat one exists in Romania. According to that story, in the beginning, God sent Satan into the primeval depths to find soil with which to begin creating Earth. When Satan finally succeeded in his quest, God made a ball out of the soil and then fell asleep. Satan thought this would be a good time to steal the ball of earth, but every time he touched it, it grew until the waters were displaced. With the help of animals the problem was solved by the creation of rivers and other waterways.

I've left your undos, but I'm afraid I disagree with the assessment you gave in your edit description.

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Gesta Hunnorum et Hungarorum

Just like Gesta Hungarorum contains a fiction stories and this two chronicles contradict to each other actually. So I think this source is untrusted source.

With regard to the origin of the Hont-Pázmány kindred the two chronicle cannot contradict to each other, because the Gesta Hungarorum written by Anonymous does not refer to the family. Otherwise, all statement in WP is to be made based on reliable sources. Borsoka (talk) 12:47, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I dont speak "with regard to the origin of the Hunt-Poznany clan" but about the credibility of this document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlad Stajdl (talk • contribs) 04:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All the same, all statements in WP are to be made based on reliable sources. Borsoka (talk) 06:31, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Im sorry, but I can not to agree that Gesta Hunnorum et Hungarorum is a reliable source, it is only a medieval document based on the oral traditions, written in 13th century, so how can it be certain document?

No, Kézai's Gesta is not a reliable source for WP purposes, I have never stated it, since it is a primary source. However, any statement on it should be made based on a reliable source, that is based on a scholarly work. Borsoka (talk) 11:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, you have claimed that it is reliable source, you have stated it, just look the lines up. So why can not I to add that this document is untrustworthy? And exactly the statement of Hunt - Poznan clan cloud be fiction, because no member from this clan had a german first name.

I am afraid you do not understand the meaning of reliable source for WP purposes. Please read what reliable source means. Please also read WP:OR. Borsoka (talk) 15:17, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thans for your suggestion and Im sorry for bothering... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlad Stajdl (talk • contribs) 17:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Some years ago neither did I understand the meaning of reliable source and OR. Wellcome to WP. Borsoka (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but Im stil having the same opinion on Hunt Poznan clan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.248.61.2 (talk) 18:45, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Origins of the Romanians

I saw you are removing and adding quite a lot of content in a very liberal fashion. While I am glad you are contributing, I would suggest you mark controversial content, unreferenced content etc with tags and start corresponding conversations in the talk page. Otherwise, given the nature of this article, you will only start another edit war. --Codrin.B (talk) 08:55, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Attitude towards Dacian fortresses articles

Yes, some of the Dacian fortresses articles are placeholders. As you know, I invited members such as yourself to contribute to them. And yes they lack references, but they are by no means non-notable as you marked them. None of them! You just have to google each one of them. PLENTY of articles and books. Given your recent edits, I am seriously questioning your motives and I am starting to be unable to WP:AGF. If you are not genuinely interested to contribute to WP:DACIA articles as a member, to help them grow, I am politely inviting you to leave the project. Your are pushing radical POVs and changes in way to many places at once, at is obvious what you are doing. Please stop and start a dialog. --Codrin.B (talk) 21:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It there are plenty of articles and books, adding some reliable sources to them will not be a problem. I am afraid it is not my task to search for reliable sources for an article I have not contributed to. Borsoka (talk) 02:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Good job on the editing the Origin of the Romanians article. Keep up the good work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.134.28 (talk) 23:34, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Drava River (925)

Could you please take a look at page of Battle of Drava River (925), you are more experienced in medieval written sources. I cited Curta there, however I am a bit unsure with that topic. Fakirbakir (talk) 13:27, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I try to cheque Constantine VII's work. Borsoka (talk) 14:42, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you in advance!Fakirbakir (talk) 19:05, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted passage

The text Béla was one of the most powerful rulers of Hungary and he was also one of the most wealthy monarchs of Europe of his age. Béla disposed of the equivalent of 23 tonnes of pure silver per year. This exceeded the income of the French king (estimated at 17 tonnes) and was double the receipts of the English Crown is also present in the intro section here: Béla III of Hungary and here: Hungary#Medieval Hungary 895–1526 (Age of Árpádian kings paragraph)

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lack of knowledge of basic Hungarian history

Have you ever went to Hungarian primary school? "Louis I could not occupy the Kingdom of Naples: is a war ending with a fiasco a success?" Louis defeated the Italian and french army mix of Johan I and occupied the city in many times. It was a military succes, but it was also strategic and political diplomatic misfurtune for Louis.

About second Mongol campaign: "defeated e a s i l y" ???- those who died during the fights are not interesting" It was defeated easily with minimal losses.

"(of course, the first Constitution in the old continent could only be written here; those barbarian Romans and their public law were nothing - komolyan, van valaki, aki ezeket komolyan gondolja???" It was the firs constitution in continental Europe.

All of this things were taught in Hungarian primary schools and history school books. It is very very strange and unbeliveable, because you stated that you were born in Hungary etc....


According to law historian Theodor Mommsen (who received Nobel prize for his monumental works on the Roman Empire) Ancent Rome hadn't any real consititions.

Your edits in Hungarian topics are worse than the edits of romanian slovak serbian banned chauvinists. Despite the serious citations and references, you try to unfold your (often false misleading and lunatic) edits as "unbiased" and "open-minded", but the same (or even worse) anti-hungarian hatred dominated your deeds as the banned chauvinist little-entente editors. I suggest to ask a wiki admin to delete your account.

Please react answer the question, before you try to give any suggestion for me. Have you ever went to Hungarian primary or secondary school? (I have doubts) El-em-pés barátom: hülyeségeiddel (és megalapozatlan állításaiddal) gyakran túlteszel még a kitiltott magyarellenes környező országok sovinisztáin is. Annyira alapvető dolgokat nem tudsz, hogy azokat még ált.sulis középsulis tankönyvek anyagából is cáfolni lehet.

You dear "deletor" should prove your statements. I remind you, that you were who deleted sentences with references. My statements are facts with sources citations. 1. Hungary was the first state in Continental Europe which had constitution. 2. The second mongol invasion was repelled easily, 3. The Italian campaigns of Louis I of Hungary were successfull in military point of view. And dear szadeszes elempés "friend", I asked a question: Have you ever went to Hungarian primary school or secondary school? Yes/No ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.2.20.113 (talk) 20:30, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Constitution article may be edifying 79.117.151.41 (talk) 22:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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