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can we change the main image to file: Beyonce_Knowles_2012_BET_awards.jpg ? - I have changed it a few times but after a few hours it gets put back to the current image. I think the image i'm suggesting should be used as it is much more recent and as a biography of a living person I think the image used should at least be of the person in this current year. Also, I don't think the current image is appropriate due to it being from a magazine shoot and the hair blowing in her face makes it harder to identify --Lolcakes25 (talk) 01:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- I kept changing it back to the previous image because I thought the image you uploaded was a copyright violation. But on your talk page you said "it's from Beyoncé's official website and has a free license". If that's true, then I'll leave the current image. Oz talk 07:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agree - I reverted to your version. Having a magazine/photo-shoot/screenshot/airbrushed photo is absurd.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 01:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's not absurd if it is a free licensed image. — Tomica (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Its not showing a fair and truthful representation of what the artist looks like...--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agree - As someone said in another talk page: "it's not that you look at the picture and say 'whoa that's Beyoncé' " —Gheiratina (Touch~^) 00:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
For reference only, Google search results
- "Beyoncé Knowles" -Beyonce About 3,630,000 results
- "Beyonce Knowles" -Beyoncé About 20,000,000 results
The results above show quite clearly that "Beyonce Knowles" is the general use in English sources. According to WP:DIACRITICS we should follow the majority of sources, not the most accurate, therefore according to WP:AT this article should be moved to "Beyonce Knowles" and her accent removed from the title. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- ...However there is no intention/need for discussion on this. This is just a marker giving equivalent search results to those applied to various non-British/American names with accents. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Vanity Fair's "THE POWERS THAT BE"
- Jay-Z and Beyoncé - 8 http://www.vanityfair.com/business/new-establishment/2012/the-powers-that-be/08-jay-z-and-beyonce
Silencio faz bem (talk) 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Beyoncé named ‘Hottest Mom in America’ by Us magazine
Azealia Banks too
- And I love Beyonce – she's the queen of everything. She's the most remarkable performer and musician. And this is just my humble opinion, but I just think she's better than everyone else making music right now. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
To add
- Done — Oz (talk) 01:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Beyoncé - Super Bowl 2013!!!
http://www.beyonce.com/news/countdown-to-touchdown http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/10/16/beyonce-nfl-super-bowl-halftime-show/ http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2012/10/beyonce-super-bowl-halftime-performer http://www.forbes.com/sites/lancemadden/2012/10/16/beyonce-to-headline-2013-super-bowl-halftime-show/
Beyonce will perform! Fev. 3, 2013! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 20:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Done — Oz (talk) 21:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Surrogate motherhood rumors
There is some evidence out there that Beyonce's pregnancy was via a surrogate mother. Whether or not this is actually true we should at least mention the rumors then Beyonce's denials so that this article doesn't read like a press release.--71.190.16.143 (talk) 21:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
-Elizabeth Sneed, "Proof that Beyonce Used a Surrogate Mother", Hollywood Reporter, October 2011. -Anya Leon, Mom & Babies: Surrocacy Rumors Were 'Just Crazy', People, 4/29/12. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. This has been discussed before (see Talk:Beyoncé Knowles/Archive 8#The whole fake pregnancy thing). — Oz (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- "No", what? That discussion lasted exactly a day. Could we reopen it?--71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- "No" it won't be added. Rumors/gossip are not encyclopedic and should NOT be included in biography articles. — Oz (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- But the careers of such celebrities ARE based on rumor and gossip. Some of the content in here, although not gossip and no doubt impressive, I wouldn't say is encyclopedic.
- -For example: "In addition, data from Google Insights showed that the most searched for term from August 29, 2011 to September 4, 2011 was 'Beyonce pregnant' which reached 'breakout' levels – a term used by Google to describe a search with an increase of over 5,000 percent." even though we already have:
- -"The Huffington Post later confirmed that Knowles was 5 months pregnant and her pregnancy announcement had broken the 'most tweets per second recorded for a single event' Twitter record, receiving 8,868 tweets per second."
- I mean, are we a celebrity press service or what?--71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- If you have GOOD, CONVINCING evidence to re-open the discussion, I see no reason why not. As stated in Wikipedia's rules here.--Aichikawa (talk) 17:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I do. Note from her article she gave birth early January 2012. Calculate then, that Blue Ivy was conceived early April 2011.
- 1. This is her, late June 2011, when she was nearly 3 months pregnant, on the French X-Factor. This page confirms the date of that performance as 6/28/11. In Europe they write it "28/06/11." Notice the table dance in heels, and jumping off the table. Why would a celebrity with a high-risk pregnancy really be performing so strenuously?
- 2. This is her on Good Morning America, a mere four days later. And another clip from the same show. Watch that at 1:30. Here is a source about her height. So those heels are 4 to 5 inches.
- 3. Here she is again, in Ireland, about a week later. Look at the video at 0:29, 1:12, and 2:14. At 1:12 you will see that her thighs are skinnier than the backup singer's on the left. Here is a link to the Wikipedia page that gives evidence of the dates for Oxegen that year.
- 4. This story gives the date of the video shoot for the song "Party," August 2, 2011, so she was almost 4 months pregnant. Look at her then.
- 5. This is perhaps the most laughable. After she shows that she is allegedly pregnant at the Video Music Awards, which we say "gets 8,868 tweets per second", she is photographed at a Tory Burch opening like this. Both BET and this source show the date as Sept. 13 or 14, or when she is 5-and-a-half months pregnant. This is what pregnancy at the end of second trimester, which means at the end of 6 months, is supposed to look like.--24.103.25.189 (talk) 19:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- 1. This is her, late June 2011, when she was nearly 3 months pregnant, on the French X-Factor. This page confirms the date of that performance as 6/28/11. In Europe they write it "28/06/11." Notice the table dance in heels, and jumping off the table. Why would a celebrity with a high-risk pregnancy really be performing so strenuously?
- I do. Note from her article she gave birth early January 2012. Calculate then, that Blue Ivy was conceived early April 2011.
- Regarding #5, it doesn't necessarily mean that the belly of 5-and-a-half months pregnant look the same in every woman. It is an individualized process, every pregnancy is different, even in the same woman. My sister who was pregnant at 7 months, no one ever noticed her pregnancy including me. Let others response to your other evidences. :) jmarkfrancia (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Judging by the photo of you, this makes perfect sense as your sister is likely also be skinny. But Beyonce is not. Which adds to her charm but would less likely produce a figure like your sister's. Look, I'm a fan as anyone else. Please wait while I add more examples.--24.103.25.189 (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
2012: Motherhood and upcoming projects + Philanthropy
NOVEMBER 1 2012 - BEYONCE PERFORMANCE LIVE AT KEEP A CHILD ALIVE'S BLACKBALL - Celebrating the power of women and the promise of an AIDS-free Africa. http://keepachildalive.org/the-black-ball/2012-ny/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 20:02, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Done — Oz (talk) 01:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
LEGACY - Broadway Sings Beyonce Concert
A handful of young Broadway stars will lend their powerful vocal chops to Broadway Sings Beyonce, a one-night-only concert at (Le) Poisson Rouge in the West Village on December 3. The event will feature songs from Beyonce’s catalogue, with music direction and arrangements by Joshua Stephen Kartes. The concert will feature over 15 cover songs to celebrate the pop icon’s greatest hits, including “Halo”, “Single Ladies”, “Love On Top”, and “Irreplaceable”. The performers will be accompanied by a full band, which will be orchestrated, arranged, and directed by Joshua Stephen Kartes.
http://www.broadway.com/buzz/165180/andy-mientus-jason-gotay-emma-hunton-and-more-set-for-broadway-sings-beyonce-concert/ http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/broadway-sings-beyonce/ http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/broadway?before=1351801527 http://beyonceindonesia.tumblr.com/post/34775998121/broadway-to-pay-tribute-to-beyonce-with-broadway-sings http://ultimatebeyonce.com/wp2/2012/11/03/broadway-to-honor-beyonce/
2012: Motherhood and upcoming projects
(...)In August 2012, it was announced that she will produce, direct, and star in a biographical documentary about her life and career.
- BEYONCÉ IN AN INTIMATE, REVEALING DOCUMENTARY FILM DEBUTING FEB. 16, 2013, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO: http://www.beyonce.com/news/beyonce-plus-hbo-equals-a-new-documentary-film
- BEYONCÉ Facebook:
BEYONCÉ IN AN INTIMATE, REVEALING DOCUMENTARY FILM DEBUTING FEB. 16, 2013, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO
Multiple Grammy®-winner, entrepreneur and actress Beyoncé will be the focus of an intimate feature-length HBO documentary film debuting Feb. 16, 2013, it was announced today by Michael Lombardo, president, HBO Programming. Directed by the superstar, the film is a fusion of video that provides raw, unprecedented access to the private entertainment icon and high-voltage performances.
“Everybody knows Beyoncé’s music, but few know Beyoncé the person,” said Lombardo. “Along with electrifying footage of Beyoncé onstage, this unique special looks beyond the glamour to reveal a vibrant, vulnerable, unforgettable woman.”
“HBO has a history of pushing every boundary with class and authenticity,” said Beyoncé. “Some of my favorite shows are on HBO, so I am excited that my film will be part of its bold programming. This film was so personal to me, it had to have the right home." The film is a multi-faceted portrait of the 16-time Grammy Award-winning singer, businesswoman, songwriter, actress, entrepreneur, wife and mother, showing off the extraordinary gifts that have made her a global phenomenon, and stripping away the veneer of stardom. It includes extensive first-person footage, some of it shot by Beyoncé on her laptop, in which she reflects on the realities of celebrity, the refuge she finds onstage and the transcendent joy of becoming a mother last year. The film sheds light on her childhood in Houston, with home movies revealing the close bond she built with her family and charts the challenges Beyoncé felt when she decided to manage her career and build her own company, Parkwood Entertainment. The film also captures the intense physical and emotional demands she goes through in the studio, preparing for live performances, running a business and her family life including her return to the spotlight after the birth of her daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, in January 2012. Beyoncé also serves as the film’s executive producer.
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