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Ending Quote

"Even with eyes wide open, my world is one of darkness."

But I just saw: "Even with eyes wide open, you can't see everything." in English translation? Regards, 122.148.41.172 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

It seems to vary slightly (my R2 version says "Even with my eyes wide open, I can't see a thing."). Geoff B (talk) 14:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I watched this film on Australian SBS TV 2 nights ago. The final subtitle as Zatoichi tripped over the stone was "No matter how wide you open your eyes, you cannot see what you cannot see", which I think is a profound philosophical statement...Bill Burrell58.96.37.244 (talk) 08:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The original Japanese (いくら目ん玉ひんむいても) has baffled Japanese bloggers. (e.g. http://kid-blog.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2007/06/post_4d07.html). But they seem to think it means "even the winner does not overcome". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.183.10.65 (talk) 15:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. The nominator and at least one other participant were sockpuppets of a permanently blocked editor; the discussion is too affected by sockpuppetry to determine a consensus. Cúchullain ^t/c 17:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Zatōichi (2003 film) → Zatoichi (2003 film) – This film was released under the name "Zatoichi" rather than "Zatōichi". See, for example, the following film posters (links to images): [1], [2], [3]. On Google books, "zatoichi" kitano has 1660 hits, but "zatōichi" kitano has eight hits, a ratio of two hundred to one. By WP:ENGLISH, this should be under "Zatoichi". Mysterious Island (talk) 00:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support film released in the English market, so therefore has an English name. WP:UE -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the English name of the film. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:50, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The film is part of a long-running series of films, at least one of which does not appear to have been released outside Japan.[4] For the sake of internal consistency, we should use one spelling of the character's name for all the films, but it would be OR for us to apply a non-standard romanization to a film that has not been released outside Japan. Also, using the macron is more accurate, and no one would see this page and think "What is Zatōichi (2003 film)?? I wanted Zatoichi (2003 film)!!" (笑) elvenscout742 (talk) 04:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- We're talking about this film, not some other film. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; we're not discussing renaming the entire film franchise, or the film that wasn't released in English, we're discussing the name of this film. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 07:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Use English, elvenscout742. It's not funny at all. 125.172.75.186 (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as per WP:NCF#Foreign-language films. The official website of the film says a Film by Takeshi Kitano "ZATOICHI". Additionally, the DVD of the film was released as Zatoichi by Artificial Eye in the UK and Ireland. 125.172.75.186 (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Zatōichi (2003 film) → Zatoichi (2003 film) – as per WP:NCF#Foreign-language films. The official website of the film says a Film by Takeshi Kitano "ZATOICHI". Additionally, the DVD of the film was released as Zatoichi by Artificial Eye in the UK and Ireland. 123.224.191.243 (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]