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January 2013

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Hello Faizanal-badri, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 15:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Glad to be of assistance

And thanks for your message on my talk page. Dougweller (talk) 14:18, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Responded

Note that I moved the section to the bottom of my talk page before responding, because we usually keep talk pages (article and user) from oldest to newest, so the newest threads go to the bottom. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

for correcting a mistake i did here. Instead of changing the caption, i reverted the edit, and forgot to re-add the image. Thanks again! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 10:11, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!! I was pleased to see your coperation, Thanks for your reply! Faizan (talk) 10:21, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use File:Lahore-Metro-Bus-Service.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Lahore-Metro-Bus-Service.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that this media item is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails the first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media item could be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. If you believe this media item is not replaceable, please:

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Fixed! Thanks for it

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February 2013

Hello Faizan Al-Badri, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

  • You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and a cited source. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
  • Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
  • Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. I don't understand your saying you didn't copy this as you clearly did. You could quote it, attributing it to Hassan Abbas (you'd have to attribute it to him however you used it). I'd advise quoting him as it's such a short bit it's hard to paraphrase. You have to attribute it as it's not something we could state as fact. Dougweller (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What you mean to say? but it's lock stock and barrel from the source, thus copyvio????????

You mean that I should use totally my words? Faizan (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE for guidance. You can quote or paraphrase so it doesn't resemble the original, but I'd quote. In any case you need to attribute it to the author. 12:16, 28 February 2013 (UTC)Dougweller (talk)

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Content requires reliable sources

You have been improperly reinserting content to Aligarh Muslim University without providing the appropriate third party reliable sources that are required before challenge materials can be restored. In addition, even if sourced, the majority of the junk is non encylcopedic promotional crap. Wikipedia is not here to provide a free web host for the university. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How it is non-encylopedic and promotional material? here Faizan (talk) 15:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
how can a university claiming to have educated heads of state, influential business leaders, famous entertainers NOT be promotional?? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The University has no need to claim! The Muslim University was part of Aligarh Movement and was founded by great Muslim leader Sir Syed Ahmed Khan. Anyway, I will provide reference for that table, you don't worry! Faizan (talk) 15:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Karachi investment

Do you have a source/confirmation that this investment is indeed disputed? [1] Mar4d (talk) 05:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! Obviously, here is the link! Check it out here!. Faizan (talk) 11:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, you seem to be right (Abu Dhabi royal scraps agreement for Pakistan real estate project, Dawn News). Lol... happens only in Pakistan. Mar4d (talk) 17:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was just a crap! We Pakistanis wasted our time in it, Abu Dhabi Group, I think was not honest with this project, or else Malik Riaz was lying! Well Bro, I wanted to ask yo that how to use an HTML Signature like yours? In Custom Font? I would prefer like this: Faizan! Faizan (talk) 06:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Haha. Actually this is not the first time, it reminds me of the overhyped Mubarak Centre in Lahore that also met a similiar fate. Large projects like these simply face too many constraints in Pakistan for political reasons :( As in regards to your question, you can modify your signature by going to your preferences (or click here: Special:Preferences). Paste your preferred the HTML coding into the box labelled "Signature" and you're done :) Mar4d (talk) 09:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please join the discussion

Please make your case why the encyclopedia is improved by violating the standard WP:SUMMARY style and other policies at Aligarh Muslim University by joining the discussion [[2]]. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:44, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion began between you and me but it has been through the official process been broadened to invite opinions from the wider community. you can participate in that discussion Talk:Aligarh_Muslim_University#Request_for_comment_on_appropriate_summary_style or not as you wish. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:44, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
you have been replied to, multiple times, but you refuse to "get it" - the section of the the alumni list that you are cutting and pasting into the University page is NOT a summary of the Alumni page. If you refuse or do not understand basic summarization, my repeatedly writing responses for you to continue to ignore is not going to resolve the situation. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not "beating around the bush" - I am beating a dead horse who either refuses to understand basic summarization or is too dull to understand. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:14, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Get to the point! Faizan (talk) 14:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the point is: a formal request to discuss how to apply Summary Style has been initiated. You have been notified. You can participate or not. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:51, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Mar4d (talk) 05:38, 2 March 2013 (UTC) [reply]

Sure brother! Faizan (talk) 05:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you'll find the source useful for expanding the article. Mar4d (talk) 05:54, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Urdu Speakers

Wa'Alaikumas'Salam, I have fixed the infobox at Urdu article indicating total number of speakers, 'only Urdu' & 'including Hindi'. Was'Salam --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 07:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Instrument of surrender

Google search the actual copies of the Instrument of Surrender, and you will see how distorted the article is. Let me finish my edits with references.--ArmanJ (talk) 11:46, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Google search is not correct always, you have to see the reliable sources! That article is reliable! And the Constituion of Pakistan of 1962 originally said "Republic of Pakistan", but after it, due to public protests, it was changed to "Islamic Republic of Pakistan" Faizan (talk) 11:53, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant to say was that Google search is full of reliable sources which contradict the previous content. The version given from Story of Pakistan was distorted. The technicalities of the topic are important and sensitive, and its crucial that we get them right.--ArmanJ (talk) 15:48, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see any discussion on the talk page. But I've given my points there, please go and see.--ArmanJ (talk) 20:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Faizan Al-Badri; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, Thank you! Faizan (talk) 10:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sialkot

Hello, I read you message on my talk page. I think, it is nice of you to inform me on this. But vickle1777 left a note in the talk page for Sialkot about the relevcance of the information removed. In no uncertain terms, the historians from both British and Muslim backgrounds have termed the Sikh rule as a constructive and open to the welfare of the entire Punjab. So, it is very difficult to conclude that Muslims faced restrictions during the Sikh rule. I have noticed a similar accusition in the page for Kashmir e.g. it says there was a death sentence as punishment for killing a cow. Well, I am sure the reference provided their belongs to a Hindu/Indian author. And for information, cow doesn't hold any specific position in Sikh culture apart from being a milch cattle.

I hope it makes some sense. Or otherwise, if you still believe the Sikh rule was oppressive upon Muslims, so what can be done about it? Of Teacher (talk) 06:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest you to read Punjabi-Poet Shah Mohammad. Of Teacher (talk) 06:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortuantely, the reference you have quoted belongs to an Indian Authora and you can imagine it were the Indians who attacked our Sovereign Punjab to enslave it to the British. You must rather trust a Muslim author Shah Mohammad than an Indian viewpoint. This same author has written about the Death punishment, Ban on Namaz, and other things in Kashmir during the Sikh rule. But I hope you know, there was something very typically, during that period that Death Penalty was abolished. And as "Chitralekha zutshi", the author you have quoted said, there was death sentence for killing a cow, i think it goes against the evidence, because neither Sikhs deems cow like Hindus nor their was a death penalty during the Sikh rule. Also, there were Muslim regiments serving the Khalsa which means the Namaz also may not have been banned.... The wikipedia page of Shah Mohammad may give you an insight. But I guess, the Sikh rule having died nearly 160 years ago doesn't matter now. So, even if you don't agree to remove that sentence from Sialkot page it still wont matter. And I will not enter into an edit-war over it. Thank you for writing to me brother... Of Teacher (talk) 11:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Baloch Nationalism

Baloch nationalism stems from lingual roots which is more concentrated in Brohi, Sulemani Makrani and Rukhshani speaking areas of Province Baluchistan. Sindhi (Jadgali Dialect), Saraiki(Khetrani dialect), Dehvari, Pashto, Hazargi and Mix (Punjabi Settlers) belts population dont suppourt Baloch Nationalism which accounts for 50 % of population of Baluchistan Province. So the map puts the background loud and clear for the Baloch nationalism state in Province of Baluchistan. Maria0333 (talk) 08:40, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sister! You did not wait for my reply and reverted my edits, which is in-appropriate. Your reason of "AS DISCUSSED WITH FAIZAN AL_BADRI" is also invalid, as the discussion had not ended in consensus. Where the map mentions that in this area of language, Nationalism is more prominent? The map just tells about languages, it does not tell that which ethnicity is more bending towards nationalism, lets discuss it first, then make changes in any of the pages! Faizan (talk) 09:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So you better add the my above paras in the main article while map will remain along side. Actually people out side Baluchistan think that all Baloch are anti Pakistan but that is not the case in the areas referred above. so map is very very important. Maria0333 (talk) 11:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok you give me a reference or link about it, so that I add content wiith image telling the world that not all Balochs are traitors, I am also a Pakistani! You are? Faizan (talk) 11:22, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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