Talk:GoldenEye

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Plot Holes

Is there room for a section for plot holes? For there's at least one - the "CCCP" on the satellite. The USSR was disbanded four years earlier.

Presumably, the satellite was launched years earlier by the USSR, and had simply been taken over by the successor military/space agency of the new Russian Federation. Considering the financial difficulties of the Russian Federation at this time, and the ultra-secret nature of the satellite, it's reasonable to presume that they just never bothered changing the country identification on the satellite. 68.196.19.147 (talk) 21:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't the Silo mission in the Goldeneye game set 4 years before. Like how the Dam/Facility/Runway are 9 years prior? Also, it's pretty unfeasable to bring a satellite down, just to repaint/brand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.177.101 (talk) 02:55, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Real-life context needed

Some real-life context is needed for the vehicle and gadgets section. At the moment, it is purely about the item in the film, as opposed to a production-related information about using that item in the film. Do not archive this:

1. "Bond also drives an Aston Martin DB5 near the beginning of the film, which is equipped with a refrigerator in the middle armrest to hold champagne and two glasses; and a communications system including voice commands and a fax machine, which prints out from the CD player.'
2. Q gives Bond a Parker Jotter pen that doubles as a "class-four" (C4) grenade. Three consecutive clicks arms the four-second fuse; another three disarms it. Boris Grishenko unwittingly sets this off at one point, allowing Bond and Simonova to escape. Bond's watch, standard issue for MI6 agents, can remotely detonate mines and has a built-in laser that can cut through metal.
3. Q also gives Bond a size-34 belt containing a 23 m rappelling cord and a piton-shooting buckle. When fired, it shoots a grapple attached to high-tensile-strength wire designed to support Bond's weight. At the start of the film, when Bond bungee jumps off a dam, he uses the grapple gun to lock on to the building below. He then uses the gun's built-in motor to pull him down. Once on the building, he uses the laser function of the watch to get into the building's ventilation system. Bond also uses the grapple gun to escape from Ourumov and his troops.
4. Bond's standard issue pistol, a Walther PPK, is chambered for the 7.65 x 17mm Browning (or .32 ACP) cartridge. It is shown in the film's promotional poster equipped with a silencer."

We need some sort of real-life context for this setion, it is one of the article's major criticisms - • The Giant Puffin • 12:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

• Nothing has been found, nothing! I have divided the Vehicles and Gadgets and merged it into Plot and Production. Now there wont be any criticism called fancruft. Vikrant Phadkay 15:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Proposed Move

I am on a campaign to move all James Bond film articles to have the reference (film) in them. For example, I just moved The World Is Not Enough to The World Is Not Enough (film). The reason for this is because there is more than one thing with this title. (books, films, games, etc). That is why this should be moved to GoldenEye (film) and the disambiguation page should be GoldenEye. Emperor001 (talk) 16:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose WP:COMMONNAME Ultra! 19:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

First wholly original Bond film

I think that this is the first wholly original Bond film and that it should possibly state that in this article. Until recently, The Spy Who Loved Me was listed as the first wholly original Bond film, but I removed that statement, as the element in which a nuclear missile's targeting coordinates are redirected so that the missile destroys a submarine is borrowed from the novel Moonraker.--Urban Rose 20:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

You forget, 006 was mentioned in the novel OHMSS. Emperor001 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

006 was mentioned but never named. There have always been more 00 agents than just Bond. Thunderball showed at least 8 "00" agents taking seats for the briefing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.81.76 (talk) 21:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Primary Topic

Currently, this article is at GoldenEye because it's the "primary topic", but this wasn't the first thing called GoldenEye. The Operation and the estate came first, so one of them should be GoldenEye and this should be GoldenEye (film). Emperor001 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I've just noticed, this is basically your move suggestion from above in a different guise. - X201 (talk) 13:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Given the number of entries on Goldeneye (disambiguation), neither of them should be here. If anything, Goldeneye should be the disambiguation page and the film should be moved to Goldeneye(film). - X201 (talk) 13:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your suggestion, but everytime I tried this with Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough, but they were just moved back. I still believe that since it can be debated as to what the primary topic is, the name should lead to the disambiguation page. Emperor001 (talk) 17:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

St. Petersberg Tank difference

Having read through the article, I noticed that in the plot section, the tank is referred to as a T-80, but in the production section, it is referred to as a T-55. So which one is it? I am not an expert on types of tanks so I didn't change anything. In the film, I don't remember them specifying what type of tank it was. --Moviemaniacx (talk) 16:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

According to this, its T-55 - • The Giant Puffin • 09:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The Cable Guy (1996)

In the scene with the massive TV satellite transmitter where Steven beats Chip and rescues Robin, Chip mentions the present moment as being a familiar scene from Goldeneye just before he jumps off and lands painfully on the Transmitter's Signal Spire. --Arima (talk) 23:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

T-72 or T-55?

I´ve changed the T-72 Tank into T-55 because of this: http://www.thebondmuseum.com/pages/17goldeneye.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.235.8.242 (talk) 20:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Xenia's cigar

At the baccarat table, what is she smoking? --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 03:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I Googled for an answer but could not find an answer. In any case, this isn't the place to ask such questions... the talk page is for discussing improvements to the article! :) I would try the IMDb discussion page for the film. Erik (talk | contribs) 11:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but actually this is the place, as if it can be documented, it goes to the brand or style itself. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 04:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why we would need to get so specific? A quick Googling did not provide an answer, and even if we found it in an obscure source, the value of identifying a cigar's brand is very small. Is there a problem with just saying "cigar"? Erik (talk | contribs) 11:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Unused sequence

When the film came out, I clearly recall a bit on Entertainment tonight where we saw a large scale miniature with a crashed GoldenEye satellite. Was this a closing bit for the film that was dropped? I've never found any reference to it on-line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.184.88 (talk) 23:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Satelitte Dish at Severnaya

What was the real world name for the the Dish or was it a movie prop?204.184.80.26 (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Still wondering. 204.184.80.26 (talk) 22:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC) It is a prop just trust me on this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.135.187 (talk) 23:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Boris's Death Fail

Boris isn't originally killed by the explosion but by the liquid nitrogen that freezes him... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.46.50 (talk) 04:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Not in Cuba

The article currently states this:

"In Cuba, Bond and Natalya meet Jack Wade and trade Bond's car for Wade's aeroplane."

However, in the film, near the end of this conversation, Wade tells Bond and Natalya that all they have to do is "take a right and Cuba is 80 miles away." I presume this means they're in the Florida Keys, not Cuba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.23.216.170 (talk) 15:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Excellent point. It's been a while since I last saw the film. I've marked it "dubious". Perhaps an editor who has the film fresh in mind or readily at hand can confirm one way or another. However, I don't think the film actually specifies where they are at the moment, therefore we cannot speculate that they are in the Florida Keys. Thank you for noticing this. - Fanthrillers (talk) 01:04, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the location: I don't think it's clear where they are and it doesn't actually matter that much. They are on their way to Cuba, which is what matters. - SchroCat (talk) 04:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.45.157.45 (talk) 18:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Valentin Zukovsky

Valentin Zukovsky does not appear in one film alone; he appears in two: Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough. This deserves a separate article from Goldeneye. --Thenewguy34 (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Not really: he's not really notable enough. - SchroCat (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

But I really think it should be separated and not redirected to just one of the movies. --96.242.188.43 (talk) 19:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Because he's in two films? See Wikipedia:Notability and appreciate the fact that don't have pages for General Gogol or Sir Frederick Gray—and they were both in six films. There's not really that much notable about the Zukovsky character, and not enough for an article. - SchroCat (talk) 19:24, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

" Llewelyn was the only actor to reprise a role from a previous Bond film"

This is not strictly true, this is Joe Don Baker's 2nd bond movie