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Ruthy Alon page

Hello Jim, thank you very much for your help. I copied the Ruthy Alon Page text and the suggestions I received from wikipedia administrators to work on the page in the next future. I think I understand the motivations of the proposed deletion. I need more time than two days to work on the page for many reasons: first of all I am on vacations, and more important I usually write in collaboration with english-speaking friends because I am italian and english is my second language as you can see in this message. I want to learn to contribute to wikipedia in the right way. So as soon as my new 'Ruthy Alon' page will be ready I will try to upload it again. And I hope I will able to do a better work. Thank you again, Danielaagazzi 19:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielaagazzi (talk • contribs)

Kellie Loder

Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for your helpful reviews of the articles I have written in the past. I have submitted another article for featured status: the Kellie Loder article. Any comments you would be willing to provide at the FAC would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New Page

StevenCNofziger (talk) 16:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)stevencnofziger Previously I was trying to create a page for the first time and I created some weird username and now I'm trying to recreate the page. I wanted to let you know that I was recreating the page, and hopefully this time doing it the right way. It's my first time doing so and there is a learning curve. Thanks. Steven StevenCNofziger[reply]

LoisYoung90page

Hello Jim, The page i created has been deleted by you and that is not one ads. Maybe I introduced too much for this company? however please advise me because i am new to this place and i need your help. Thanks & nice day.

LoisYoung

Re-evoke deleted page?

Hi Jim, On the 23rd May 2013 you deleted the biography of a living person (Mr. Tito Tettamanti - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Tettamanti) stating G11 as a reason. In fact, my colleague who in good faith wanted to create the page, was not aware that he needed to cite the sources of each piece of information. I am now preparing a new bio with all needed references but I could need some help/advice from you on how to get it right and not waste anyone`s time. Do you think you can assist? Many thanks and all the best! Dan Fidinam legal counsel (talk) 12:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

To Mark Arsten, Jimfbleak and Zzyzx11: I am blocking each of you because you have edited the Chelsea Manning article through protection, despite several comments and a clear warning on the talk page of the article. It does not matter whether or not you personally think your changes are uncontroversial; in two of the cases, it turns out there is actually controversy about the changes made. You are blocked for the remaining duration of page protection; however, any administrator may unblock you provided that you undertake to make no further edits to the Chelsea Manning page for the duration of the protection.

The administrator tools do not grant you the authority to change fully protected articles based on any reason other than edit requests based on policy and appropriately discussed on the talk page of the article. None of the edits made addressed BLP issues. None of them were urgent or required immediate, undiscussed action. Going forward, I expect you all to refrain from editing protected pages in the absence of a clear talk page consensus on the appropriateness of a specific edit request. Risker (talk) 17:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chelsea Manning

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — ΛΧΣ21 17:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Valerie Sutton

According to NewJerseyLiz, you were the one who deleted the article after she flagged it. I cannot for the life of me see how the article could be considered promotional. The total content of the article was biographical and descrioptive of her efforts to develop a movement notation, forst for dance and later for sign language and in other areas. There were no "this is the best" or other promotional-type statements. Since I cannot see what in the original article made Liz or you think it was promotional, I can't determine what would have met with your acceptance. Could you explain? -- BRG (talk) 22:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


It might have been useful, for you to have raised the points you cite before deleting the article.
First, as to notability. At the time the article was written, in 2008, of course, there were no such concepts as "independently verifiable sources" and "notability guidelines." The article was written according to the standards of the day. Wikipedia has become more formal in its requirements in this line, but instead of simply deleting the article, perhaps someone should have attempted to investigate these questions. The fact is that SignWriting is recognized by many as one of the best-known ways of writing, not only American Sign Language, but other signed languages as well. Some of the references to SignWriting from outside Valerie Sutton's organization -- such as universities -- are:
    • [1] Nicaraguan Sign Language users are being made literate through SignWriting
    • [2] SignWriting is important enough that it has been included in the University of California's list of scripts requiring Unicode representations
    • Mobility '06 Proceedings of the 3rd international conference on Mobile technology, applications & systems
    • [3] This is a study of different representations of sign languages made at a Japanese university. SignWriting was one of the ones studied, attesting to its importance, and it was adjudged the most suitable.
    • [4] Yet another academic journal article attesting to SignWriting's significance among notations for sign language.
    • Almasoud, Ameera M., and Hend S. Al-Khalifa. "SemSignWriting: A Proposed Semantic System for Arabic Text-to-SignWriting Translation." Journal of Software Engineering and Applications 5.8 (2012).
Of course, if SignWriting is notable -- and I think these are only a few references proving that so -- then its inventor is.
Now, I was trying to figure out how you saw the article as "promotional." You gave me the following quotes: "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten... as Sutton improved her system... by special invitation... came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration... it has been used for writing not only... Sutton has continually worked to improve her notation systems and now leads..." Other than two usages of the word "improve" I do not see anything that could possibly be seen as, as you put it, "a fan page." And even those only indicate that her first efforts were far from perfect, and she attempted to make the system more useful. Where is the "fan" language in "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten"? It was the ballet steps that were described as "historic," not anything that VS created. The part saying "came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration" is history, not promotion; it describes how VS came to turn her efforts from dance movement notation to sign language notation. Perhaps "it has been used for writing not only... " requires citations -- I just gave you some above -- but in 2008 this mechanism for citing did not exist.
If an image is a copyright violation -- and I did not upload that image, so I don't know where it came from -- the solution is to delete the image, not the whole article. But the person who uploaded the image has commented that he had "Explicit permission to make this picture available under a Free license from Valerie Sutton .. have e-mail to prove it." So that particular point is irrelevant.

--BRG (talk) 09:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is no conflict of interest. I have no connection with VS, other than that I've met her in person and I was impressed with what she did. If you userfy the article, I'll try to see what I can do, but I really have to figure out exactly what the objections are in order to fix it, thus my detailed questions. -- BRG (talk) 12:43, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You referred to the portion that said, "... came to the attention of sign language researchers at the University of Copenhagen, and they asked for a demonstration." You wanted to know who the "sign language researchers" were. The very next sentence said, "As a result, Lars van der Leith and others at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen requested Sutton to develop a version of her movement notation adapted to the recording of sign languages." That should have answered your questiomn there. I personally, in fact, do not know who else besides Lars van der Leith was involved, but his name and the name of the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen should have settled the question. I assume that the other "sign language researchers" were colleagues or students of van der Leith at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen. However, a slight rearrangement of the words should fix that problem.
Truly, I am far from being a newbie, and I have created thousands of articles on Wikipedia. However, the standards regardin sourcing and notability have become so much more formalized in recent years that I find myself forced to defend articles I created five years or more ago, which lacked attestations of notability, or lacked sourcing, because the standards were different at the time. This is the very first time that I found my article simply deleted, without the chance to find out what needed to be fixed up or to demonstrate that it was all right without changes. The only thing I had to go on was NewJerseyLiz' comment that it seemed promotional, and I did not see what in the article would qualify as promotional. -- BRG (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing the reasons for the deletion, Jimfbleak. I tagged that article a week ago and since it no longer exists, I couldn't double-check and see what drew my attention. It was basically what you stated to BRG, that there were vague claims, a bit of peacocking that was self-promotional, it wasn't thoroughly referenced and I had questions about the photo. I appreciate you detailing your reasons since I can no longer see the article. Liz Read! Talk! 13:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC) (formerly NewJerseyLiz)[reply]

apologies

for giving you so much work. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 06:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

thanks for being so diligent with the CSDs. I was on a bit of a mission there.

[ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 06:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know

You have been indirectly mentioned here: Wikipedia:Help_desk#Wikipedia_posting_for_Fred_Barney_Taylor. XOttawahitech (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I dont know why am blocked to edit the subject "Anitha Shaiq" And please help me to catogorise this article and to remove the URLs as am new to Wikipedia . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsib (talk • contribs) 03:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Johnsib: You weren't "blocked" from editing it. Your edit to it was undone because it contained a link to YouTube, and in general, links to YouTube aren't helpful (see WP:YOUTUBE). Since you and 89.211.106.243 (talk) (which I assume is you logged out) added those multiple times, Jimfbleak semi-protected the article, so only established editors can edit it. However, @Jimfbleak: Johnsib is the original author of that (new) article and isn't yet autoconfirmed (I'm not sure if you noticed that or not when you semi'd it). Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi jimfbleak

how can i start editing this article again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsib (talk • contribs) 03:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jimfbleak

I am confused . could you please help me to edit "Anitha Shaiq"? i mean am still unable to edit the page as it is saying this article is semiprotected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsib (talk • contribs) 03:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Could you please remove the semiprotection from Article "Anitha Shaiq"--Johnsib (talk) 04:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hi JIMFBLEAK

how can i categorize the article Anitha shaiq to "south Indian musicians"?--johnsib (talk) 04:22, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jimfbleaks

Hi Thank you somuch . I will revert you if in case any doubts. now what i need to improve this article. can you guide me through?--johnsib (talk) 07:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

jimfbleaks

Please tell me how to add citations to the article.I hope forward a constant support from you.--johnsib (talk) 07:10, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

rooting out crap articles

you've obviously seen me on my mission, of late, to get rid of advertising articles, which has largely been in the form of buildings and construction projects. However, when things get deleted quickly, I also do not get the benefit of sifting through an article's history, identifying bad actors, and following up their edits, on the assumption that the worst spammers will likely make multiple of these promotional articles.

So I'm considering submitting my name for consideration at RfA. I think I would like to limit this to the ability to review text and edit histories of deleted articles, though I'm not sure what role that would be exactly. I was wondering whether you think this is a good idea or not. Feel free to respond either here or on my talk page. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 06:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weird welcome-box

User:Jimfbleak/Talkheader seems a little broken as transcluded onto your talkpage. When I first came to User talk:Jimfbleak, it says "Hello Johnsib, and welcome to my talk page." I'm not Johnsib--he was the previous user to edit your talkpage--I'm DMacks...{{REVISIONUSER}} is the last editor, not the current viewer. It only becomes me when I [Edit] the whole page (because now I'm making the revision). But if I'm doing that by [New section] rather than editing the whole page, I that box isn't present either. The personalization feature might be more useful for a pagenotice (I'm not sure if it works correctly there), but it's kinda confusing as it stands. DMacks (talk) 07:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 21 August 2013

Hello, Jimfbleak. You have new messages at UseTheCommandLine's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Drinking games

I noticed you deleted the page I put up for proposed deletion as a G3. I wasn't to sure what speedy tag to put it under hence the proposed deletion. So, thank you for the heads up. Whispering 11:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Main Page appearance: Fiji Parrotfinch

This is a note to let the main editors of Fiji Parrotfinch know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on September 2, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or one of his delegates (Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 2, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Fiji Parrotfinch

The Fiji Parrotfinch is a species of estrildid finch endemic to Fiji that was formerly considered to be a subspecies of the Red-headed Parrotfinch. This parrotfinch is a small, mainly green bird with a red head and tail and a stubby dark grey bill. It is found in both forested and open habitats, and has adapted well to man-made environments such as grasslands, pasture and gardens. This bird has a courtship display in which a pair fly above the trees in an undulating flight, calling constantly. Breeding birds build a domed grass nest with a side entrance, and lay a clutch normally of four white eggs. The Fiji Parrotfinch eats seeds, especially of grasses, but also readily feeds on insects and nectar. It forms small flocks of up to six birds after the breeding season. Parrotfinches may be predated by indigenous birds of prey such as the endemic Fiji Goshawk, or by introduced mammals like the small Asian mongooses, rats and mice, and they may be susceptible to disease. Nevertheless, the Fiji species, despite being both uncommon and endemic to one island group, appears to be stable in numbers. It is classified as Least Concern on the IUCN Red List, and it is protected under Fijian law. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of CIIM page

Dear Jimfbleak

Our company page has been removed. How can I resubmit the content? Can you send me the old content so I can edit it in order to comply with the regulations?

Thanks Marinosciim (talk) 07:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC)Marinos[reply]

Removal of Little Bay Restaurants page

Dear Jimfbleak

The Little Bay Restaurants page I created was deleted as being promotional. However, I contest this as I am not seeking to promote the Little Bay Restaurants. The fact is that they are an important part of culture in London and Brighton in the UK and play an integral part of the history of Restaurants in the UK. The main argument for this is the 'Pay What You Think It's Worth' scheme introduced by its owner, Peter Ilic, which attracted attention from around the world - being featured on CNN, Reuters, The Guardian and other reputable sources. I endeavoured to include such source in my article to allow for verification of the facts. I am therefore very disappointed that my article was removed without due consideration or consultation. I would appreciate it if you could review the page in the light of things and advise whether you could kindly restore the page.

Thanks Jimmyd91 (talk) 11:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Little Bay Restaurants page

Dear Jimfbleak,

Thank you for clarifying the reasons for the earlier deletion. I have added it as a request for an article to be written. Would you consider writing an article about the restaurants?

Thanks Jimmyd91 (talk) 14:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Harry (singer)

Hi Jim. You nuked this under G11 - I think (given the user's actions yesterday) that it was actually a good-faith attempt to create an article about Niall Horan (currently a redirect). Whether such an article is necessary is a whole different kettle of fish, but total annihilation seems a bit severe - he's none too chuffed about it. I was wondering whether you'd object if I reinstated it for him (perhaps as a sandbox page, rather than a userpage)? Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 09:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I had checked over that page a couple of times. The user blanks it nearly everyday, then makes random articles about people (e.g. Homer Simpson). Thanks, Insulam Simia (talk · contribs) 13:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User: Izzy Seekings

Hi Jim

You recently deleted the Killik & Co page. I have made several changes and wondered whether you could please look at it to tell me whether it now complies with the Wiki guidelines?

Thanks

Kate — Preceding unsigned comment added by IzzySeekings (talk • contribs) 12:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hi

JIMFBLEAK

i have removed the date of birth of anitha shaiq, becos the actual person do not wanted it in the article. so i tried to remove it. is there any problem in doing so if the actual person do not want it in the article?

explain to me--johnsib (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) If it is publicly available information, it will be in the Wikipedia article - whether the subjects wants it or not. If there is a plausible reason for not wanting the DoB in the article, the subject should contact the Wikipedia Volunteer Response Team (see: Wikipedia:Contact us. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 07:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Jimfbleak

here is a problem with the content removed from "Anitha shaiq" . some admins have completely removed all the information . is it possible to give the birth certificate with this each line of the article??? why people do it without any reason . the content was not a advertisement of a product or something. could you please add the removed content to the article? is it possible to give each and every line a reference ??? please reply and add the content .thanks--johnsib (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

jimfbleak

i have added the content . could you please protect the article ? is there any problem in adding the removed content again ? and i cannot give reference to each and every line to the article and it is not possible to do so. could you please advice me?--johnsib (talk) 21:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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