Talk:Western world

I have one question: Do you really think that the fact that the Czech republic belongs to Western world could be doubted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.176.255.56 (talk) 22:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The C-word?

I just noticed that we have an unregistered used here who ends every post with an offensive four-letter word that begins with c. The word is capitalized and in its own sentence. The user's history indicates a total of 16 posts (on all articles) all of them ending with the word in question. Does this word mean something else in Spanish? I looked, but couldn't find anything. Is it Trourette syndrome? Maybe it's a username that the user doesn't know is offensive in English. The word still occurs three times on this talk page. Zyxwv99 (talk) 01:53, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

"Coon" is short for "racoon" and can be a racial epithet in some contexts. It's also a valid surname. I do not think that it's being used offensively here. It appears to be the user's signature. I see that User:Coon was blocked indefinitely in 2006 for vandalism (not because the name was offensive). There are some users with "coon" in their name. Jojalozzo 02:43, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. The only reason I asked is because someone reverted a response to my comment on the grounds that it was personal attack on the user. Zyxwv99 (talk) 03:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

What about the other peoples of Europe?

It wasn't just the Greeks and Romans that started Western culture. It almost certainly has plenty of barbarian influence. Celts and Jews and Vikings and Moors and Gypsies and other groups, too, came into play, and had their own ideas and practices that contributed to the "Western" culture. Why rely on Greeks and Romans, because some dead historian says so? Oh, maybe they were (along with us Jews) the first to write stuff down, but that doesn't let the "barbarians" (or even the Egyptians) off the hook. And let's not forget the Punic Empire and its Canaanite forbears, shall we? — Rickyrab. ^{Yada yada yada} 09:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

'HUNGTIONTON' Hungtinton didn´t consider neither Turkey nor Mexico as Western nations. I think that Mexico, in spite of its large Native population, can be considered a Western nation (Spanish language, Catholicism) but Turkey, no way (it is part of the Islamic Civilization obviously)--88.8.210.171 (talk) 19:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Samuel P. Huntington Map

Please, can anyone fix the map of Samuel P. Huntington in the section "other views"? In his work, as we know, Samuel P. Huntington doesn't include Latin America as west but the map in the section "other views", attributed to him, does. I disagree with his view of west but if we want cite his work, let's do it correctly. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.42.195.164 (talk) 10:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

The map from Huntington's clash of civilizations article is added to represent correctly Huntington's point of view based on his article.

BaodlywoaterAlbanian (talk) 01:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

...Make Western World available in different languages.

That, really, is all i gotta say. BAI

--24.61.116.26 (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

In French WP article

What do you think about the intro in French WP article?

Translation with Google translate:

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The West, or Western world, is a geopolitical concept that is generally based on the idea of ​​a common civilization, heir of the Greco-Roman civilization, and an opposition to the rest of the world, or to one or several zones of influence such as Orient, the Arab world, the Greater China or the Russian sphere of influence.

The political concept of the West appears in the year 285 with the division of the Roman Empire, which gradually creates the Western Roman Empire around Rome that uses the Latin alphabet and the Eastern Roman Empire around Constantinople using the Greek alphabet. The "Barbarian Invasions" causes the fall of the Western Roman Empire but allow the extension of the influence of the Roman Catholic Church in Northern Europe and Central Europe, while the Roman Empire Eastern spreading the Orthodox form of Christianity in Eastern Europe. It is in this context that Charlemagne took the title of Emperor of the West in 800. The schism of 1054 marks the final break between the Catholic West and the Orthodox East, which makes possible the diversion of the Fourth Crusade by the Republic of Venice. This episode ends with the sack of Constantinople by Western crusaders, event which weakened for good the Eastern Empire but favors the onset of the Renaissance in the West. In the fifteenth century, the West and East are experiencing two major changes : the Protestant Reformation that alters the structure of Western Christianity and the capture of Constantinople by the Ottoman Turks . Faced with this "Islamic lock", Western states seek a new Road to the Indies : this period is called "Age of Discovery" leading to the conquest of the "New World". Comes a period of great change with the establishment of colonial empires, the "Age of Enlightenment" and the Industrial Revolution. During the second half of the twentieth century the idea of ​​the West knows a new dimension with the Cold War and the creation of the NATO.

In the early twenty-first century, it is generally accepted that the "West" in the strict sense includes Western Europe (European Union and EFTA), Canada, United States, Australia and New Zealand. The citizens of these countries are commonly referred to Westerners. According to some other points of view, the West sometimes includes Latin America.

Regarding the last sentence, my French isn't very good, so I'm not sure if the extra "some" was a translation issue. But it should be more accurately noted that while some (or many depending on the country or region you're talking about) consider Latin America apart of the west, then it is the west to those individuals. It couldn't "sometimes be the west" to people to people with those point of views. To say they sometimes consider it the way would insist those individuals are in an arbitrary state (which many are, but not for those already with that point of view). The other problem is when people say Latin America (or the West Indies for that matter too) isn't apart of the west, they never explain what they actually are. Maybe it is just me, but I've never heard someone say "the Latin American world" in the same context as "the Western World". People will give you all sorts of non-scholarly and often irrelevant reasons for why they do not consider it apart of the west. Some unfortunately will dumb things down to the point of equating western with developed or industrialized or developed or industrialized + a western European language. But even that wouldn't be the problem here, because they are not giving explaining what Latin America is apart of, even though they are speaking of Latin America.

A simple way of describing the populace's view (especially for those who are at least fairly acquainted with the topic) is: Latin America has all of the cultural elements to be considered apart of the west, but because they aren't as wealthy as the west or it's fellow westerners, they get overshadowed and their role in or out of the west goes ignored and left to be debated. TomNyj0127 (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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--Monsieur Fou (talk) 11:37, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

western world is a defunct term

Basically the article is correctly saying that the term western world is obsolete. Only it does so in a very long roundabout way. The western world can mean many different things to many people, and the term can be applied to any country that shares some attributes that are considered western. This should be stated in the introduction. In fact, the whole article could be shortened down to a paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkast (talk • contribs) 04:23, 25 October 2013 (UTC)