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Browne says Obama will lose relection

From http://www.goerieblogs.com/news/writersblock/2011/10/my-and-sylvia-browne-2012-predictions/ :

Here are some of her predictions:

1) President Obama will not get re-elected. While not a fan, she favored Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.

That is the third paragraph of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbeenPP (talk • contribs) 20:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two things:
1. The source is a blog, so it doesn't meet WP:V. Whatever it says, it's not a reliable source. 2. We already have a source saying that she predicted he'd lose - we don't need another source for that. I'm going to revert. --Six words (talk) 21:26, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Look at it carefully: the blog link is in both versions. The link AbbeenPP keeps trying to restore is abc26.com, which is dead, and supposedly alleges that Obama will be re-elected. Antandrus (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(Here's one that works, if anyone wants to add it: http://www.nbc33tv.com/news/local-news/spiritual-healer-sylvia-b) Antandrus (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I first thought, but no, AbbeenPP only added the blog (and said so in the edit summary). Nightshift removed both AbbeenPP's addition and the dead link (with the text attributed to it). Given that AbbeenPP focusses only on the wrong prediction - both here and in the edit summaries of his/her reverts, I don't think he/she's concerned about the removal of the dead link. You're right. Anyway, I'm removing the blog link for the reasons given above. --Six words (talk) 21:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I added the Erie Times-News source. I'm not adding the ABC News page. It was there before. Nightscream's sloppy removal messed up the tags.
The link is to the Erie Times-News website-- a newspaper where its reporters make posts. It's not a personal "blog." Much like CNN, which has blogs for its reporters http://www.cnn.com/exchange/blogs/index.html or the Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs it is where news stories are posted. AbbeenPP (talk) 22:08, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's a newspaper blog. It's a weaker source than the one already there, so we don't need it. Also, Nightscream didn't even remove it - it's you who didn't look at what you were doing and messed up by reverting a valid edit. --Six words (talk) 22:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2004 prediction about Amanda Berry

In 2004, Louwana Miller went on The Montel Williams Show to talk to psychic Sylvia Browne to see if she could get any insight into how her missing daughter was doing. And Browne told her that Amanda Berry was dead. In 2013, Amanda Berry has been found alive. Louwana Miller died in 2006, never getting to see her daughter again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.132.85 (talk) 09:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right now there's no reliable source that makes this connection, meaning it would be considered original research to discuss this prediction in the Wikipedia article, so I've removed your addition (for now). Since this is a very big story I'm sure it won't take long until some newspapers cover this false prediction though - as soon as that happens, the Wikipedia article can be changed to include it. --Six words (talk) 09:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So I've looked around, found a reliable source and wanted to add it, but MrBill3 had already added this source a few hours ago! It's in another section ("Predictions"), so I don't think we need to add this information to "The Montel Williams Show". --Six words (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heart attack

Browne's performance scheduled for Halifax, Nova Scotia, on April 1, 2011, was cancelled due to "unforeseen circumstances."[43] It was later confirmed that Browne suffered a massive heart attack while in Hawaii on March 21, 2011.

I take it then that she did not predict she was going to have a massive heart attack? I don't suppose this inference needs to be included in the article, since it is—or should be—self-evident. 108.246.205.134 (talk) 21:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection

Due to being criticized harshly in the news recently, and a spate of IP vandalism but also repair by an IP, I am pro-actively semi-protecting this article for the next three hours. Bearian (talk) 18:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection is fine as a response to vandalism...though I don't think accurate reportage of failed predictions constitutes "harsh criticism". - Nunh-huh 19:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Convicted criminal

I removed the part about being a convicted criminal in the first line. It's laying things on a bit thick in the first line. It's covered in the next paragraph anyway. IRWolfie- (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Death reports

I see that there are a lot of anon editors who have been editing the page today with reports of her death. The death is also listed on her official Facebook page but we need to wait for a WP:RS before we do much on this page. I would like to add a Recent death template to help readers understand what is happening. Is there a better way to do it? Allecher (talk) 00:45, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Recent Death template will attract appropriate monitoring from Admins to help revert uncited, often anonymous edits. Until we know otherwise I think we should adhere to WP:BLP Dynamicimanyd (talk) 00:52, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see we have a citation for the death in TMZ. I don't think this source qualifies as WP:RS. We certainly need something that can be considered a reliable secondary source to replace that citation as soon as one is available. Thoughts, anyone? Admins? Dynamicimanyd (talk) 01:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are a couple more reports of her death from other news sources. Including Washington Times[1] and New York Daily News[2]. ADigitalArtist (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:34, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The New York Daily News is just another tabloid and the Wash Times is merely reporting that TMZ is reporting the death. Insufficient. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Her own website is stating she has died. http://www.sylviabrowne.com/ --Dmol (talk) 01:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure it's a good idea to take her word for it. The record shows several people she said were dead were in fact alive. The Daily News, however, is a reasonable source reporting that her son Chris confirmed her death. - Nunh-huh 02:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Daily News is NOT reporting that the confirmed the death. They are confirming that TMZ says that the son confirmed the death. The CNN [1] seems to be the most generally reliable source reporting this, but they are only using her website for confirmation. That seems pretty shaky. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:32, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a bad time to mention that TMZ broke the news of Michael Jackson's death and that people who Syvia Browne claimed were dead turned up alive?

  1. ^ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/20/psychic-sylvia-browne-dies-77/
  2. ^ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/psychic-sylvia-browne-dead-77-reports-article-1.1524107
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