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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Avw1 (talk | contribs) at 02:37, 1 April 2014. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revising this Article

I will be updating this article for a class assignment. Does anyone have any suggestions for specific areas that need improvement/updating, or other sections you would like to see added? On that note, are there any sections of this article that you think need serious revision?

My current plan is to update old statistics, add a section about the influence of the Vietnam War on women’s rights in the present day, and add more text to the section called “Human Rights.” For my contribution to the Human Rights section, I will talk about women’s involvement in politics and reproductive rights. I will focus on middle and upper-class women’s involvement in professional jobs (so I will look at women workers in business jobs, not menial laborers or sex workers) in a new section called “Women in the Workforce.” My idea for this section came from Nicolevnguyen’s suggestion. Does anyone have any ideas for specific segments of society I should talk about (i.e. women in different regions of Vietnam, class groups, or income categories)?

Lastly, I agree with those who mentioned the bias of this article. What can I do to make this article less biased, less seen through the eyes of the Western world? Kimmyfromtexas (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nice!

Thanks for your efforts on putting this article together—looks like a great start. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda and biased

The first paragraph reads like a propaganda piece, totally neglecting the other side of the story. The second paragraph is off by hundreds if not thousands of years. Wife-buying, kidnapping, rape, etc did not just start in the 1980s. This article needs serious rework and should never have made it to DYK. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the article is totally inadequate; it's basically just a random selection of facts about Vietnamese women. I did see this on the Suggestions page and had some suspicions about it but never got around to checking it out.
Given the number of DYK controversies I was involved in through the last week however, I have absolutely no desire to get involved in another one right now. I suggest you ask User:Materialscientist to take a look at the article, or else place a request at WT:DYK. Gatoclass (talk) 12:56, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After reading the article, I've pulled its DYK hook off the main page. The article is indeed rather unbalanced and sketchy and does not fit to its name. The first part about the war has no relation whatsoever with the second part, on bride trafficking. Materialscientist (talk) 13:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good call.BarkingMoon (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it technically went live on main page still. So credit should be given. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:55, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It went there by mistake and was pulled off 90 min late because of slow reaction. It is surely disappointing, because you might have improved the article if this was raised earlier, but this happens, and I'm sure you have many more DYK credits ahead. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 14:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to try to eliminate a lot of the bias in this article. Any suggestions about how to do that? Are there particular sections that seem more biased, or phrases I should take out?Kimmyfromtexas (talk) 19:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

I think this is a great article, but I think the article would benefit if a section was added that detailed the roles of Vietnamese women in the modern workforce. Nicolevnguyen (talk) 21:09, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I'm going to work on this part of the article! I will focus on middle and upper-class women’s involvement in professional jobs (so I will look at women workers in business jobs, not menial laborers or sex workers) in a new section called “Women in the Workforce.” Any particular suggestions for it? Which aspects of women's roles in the modern workforce should I focus on? Kimmyfromtexas (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review

I think your article is very strong, and has a lot of good information. I really liked some of the precise information you gave, such as the statistics under the "Women's Roles in the Vietnam War" section and the information about the Gender Inequality Index. The main areas that I think you could continue to expand on are the introduction and the Gender Relations in Post-War Vietnam section. The Post-War Vietnam section left me with a few questions, such as why women were able to "take on leadership roles" after the reunification, or why women were "confident" that they would one day be liberated. I also thought that your article could benefit from a few more links. it seemed like all of the links to other articles were in the "Human rights" section, but there are certainly many opportunities to link to other pages such as the Trung sisters page. Avw1 (talk) 02:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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