Talk:Jihad

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Inconsistancy between body and lead

LEAD There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2] The "greater jihad" is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6] This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

BODY Although some Islamic scholars have differed on the implementation of Jihad, there is consensus amongst them that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[40]

There is some inconsistency here: "there is a consensus amongst islamic scholars that juhad will always include armed struggle."

but in the Lead, it says the opposite that non-violent meaning is stressed? Which one is it? Most of us can plainly see it's the armed struggle that is prevalent in Islam, so I will make this change so the lead reflects more what is said in the body.Greengrounds (talk) 05:22, 30 August 2013 (UTC)== Jihad is the fight for women's liberation ==

Come on, we all realise this entire article is a joke, but this sentence is a pure pisstake

".....the terminology is also applied to the fight for women's liberation.[16]"

from a very very dubious source (muslim "feminist" ranting at a third rate US college)

Since the article is protected are there any admins who would care to remove that "joke", it would be interesting to find out who the joker is that'll contest its deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeddyTesseract (talk • contribs) 10:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I have not gone through the entire article but I do have a firm understanding of Jihad and its implications in the Quran and the Sunnah.

It is not specifically applied to "Women's Liberation" but it can be applied to abuse against women in terms of prostitution,human trafficking or :domestic violence.The Government itself or the chiefs of the village or the administrators of towns and cities in case of lack of or no central :government can act against groups,mafias or networks that are suppressing women(Not allowing for Education or The Right to Vote) or exploiting and :mistreating them as described earlier,without transgressing limits.This would,in theory,be applied to the central meaning of Jihad,that is,to :counter anything that is evil or against the Muslim faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.188.160.199 (talk) 16:12, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

To the above ^^^....Islam IS anti-female. It CANT be for women's rights when it actively seeks to deny them of rights [and it does in Muslim controlled nations]. But both the hadiths and the Quran both state that females should have less rights, so it is a religous issue and not one of culture. 107.222.205.242 (talk)

Muslim Brotherhood

The section seems unnecessary in the wider scope of Jihad.More appropriate subsections would be its use in the subcontinent by Barelvi or a concise history of its use by Muhammad and its predecessors.The tone of the Muslim Brotherhood section itself is bias and cites Pro-Israel,Jewish or anti Islam sources such as the Jewish Tribune or the Jewish Virtual Library(Sources 58 and 59). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.188.211.12 (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)