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Belton House

Thank you all for your kind copy-edits and attacks on my foot-note system, yes it is a pity there are only four ref books (actually realy three, as one was only something unconnected) which will cause some-one to comment on FAC: "not enough references". While I appreciate yoor efforts (Paul - I can't actually see what you have done!) could I just point out the page is nt in fact finished, it has yet to have its section titled "Abdication and the broken heart" This will be a very moving and poignant section in which Lord Brownlow drives the Duchess of Windsor away from Belton and the King to France, with her soft tears echoing in his heart! Namely he has a broken heart because he has just realised he has backed the wrong side and knows he is about to be hacked up by the new Queen, who was at that time not a cuddly old granny, but when thwarted, a very unpleaseant piece of work. So you see there is a lot of murder and mayhem yet to come in this exiting page. Oh, and yes Ok Kinsman! hahahah very funny, you lot should be on TV! Giano | talk 09:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Efforts, is it? OK, copyedit it yourself. Bishonen | talk 09:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Well if you are going to be like that!....I shall shortly be going to Japan and never ever ever returning! - so there! Giano | talk 09:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You think you're Queen Elizabeth or something? Bishonen | talk 09:54, 17 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
No, but I wish could could chop someone's head off - jusyt look at this Wikipedia:Peer review/Neo-Renaissance Ghirlandajo and I have been working on it for ages, it is far from finished, but may have been an Fa one day, and suddenly look...........bloody cheek! You wopuld think they could mention it to two obvious primary authors first! Giano | talk 10:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So very nice to see that peer review is now being taken over by a javascript program! It's about time! Human beings are only a hair's breadth from monkeys, you know: would you trust a chimp to give feedback on your writing? No! Give me pure, sterile code any day. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that was nice, too. People are talking to the script. "Please, ScriptMaster, accept these changes as a token of our esteem." It's absolutely flippin' nuts. (And, with compromise, we find ourselves compromised.) Geogre 17:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't cope with this, my life is in ruins, I go to very expensive bookshops buy out of print book thus depriving my children of food and education. Sit up in bed reading them half the night (thus depriving my wife of tea bags or whatever) then write my beautiful pages - for what?.......A fucking robot to read. No, you lot do not exist you are all figments of my imagination. OK my first dry week-end is about to end, I'm off for a few drinks teabag the wife and beat the kids! Giano | talk 18:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And then little USA tied Italy in soccer, and you guys were trying to win the approval of a robot. Oh, I'm with Bunchofgrapes: there is something incalculably lovely about a javascript robot giving peer review notes. It's exactly where a certain segment of Wikipedia wants to go: potato mashers and sieves and Procrustean beds -- things that can't be argued because they don't need reading because they're just filling out forms in a particular way. Geogre 21:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Giano my edits are invisible and can only be seen using special browser code. They all make fun of Italian football and your manhood. By the way I've sent copies of the code to all your female admirers Bish, Freply, every women in Japan … and several others. Regards Paul August 15:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that Giano can't teabag? (I heard the term in a John Waters film, and it referred specifically to doing a particular thing while wearing Y-front briefs. I wonder if I should put a "disputed" tag on the page?) Geogre 17:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • No Giano can't teabag, and Y-front briefs are surely only worn by nerdy Brits whose parents hate them by giving them daft names. As for the code Paul, I'm sure there is a Lady in Japan waiting just for you, would you like me to notify her of your existence? - NO!, I thought not. So you know what you can do with your code - don't you? Is it the fact you are going to loose to us in the footie realy hurts? - You surely don't immagine I would rub it in and mention it at every opportunity for the next four years do you? Giano | talk 18:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Geogre, to know what I'm "saying", you will have to see if Bish will loan you the code. And no, there is absolutely no relationship between the size of my edits, or the need for a magnifying glass, and Giano's manhood — none whatsoever. Paul August 19:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't even do Sodoku, so I have no hope of spotting the number patterns in a reference section. (The real reason I don't like footnotes: I'm innumerate!) Geogre 03:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think Paul, like poor dear BoG you are becoming exitable, and should calm down, it is only natural that you should need a magnifying glass - self examination is very important in those over 50, I was only reading a very interesting poster in the doctor's waiting room the other day. You Brit's all have an (understandable) obsession with size, it must be very troubling for you all, but apparently it does not matter in the least (if you beleive that you will beleive anything). Now off you go to bed with a nice cup of cocoa. Giano | talk 20:14, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cup of tea, I think you mean... And as for Italy's um, ... showing against USA. I'm flabbergasted. What went wrong? Perhaps they should have had you on the team after all? I hear you have the balls... ++Lar: t/c 21:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was an ugly game all the way around, but the USA did better than I expected. There was a huge difference in the game, in the US, depending upon whether you listened to satellite radio with broadcasters who follow all soccer all the time or the stupid TV people who appeared to think it was a baseball game. To say that they were out of their depth was an understatement. While radio complained about ticky fouls getting called early, they thought the redcard was well deserved (an elbow to the eyesocket of the guy who just scored on you). The TV people thought that there weren't any fouls being called and that all the yellow and red cards were just the refs messing things up. American television: the next best thing to living in a cave with your ears filled with mud. Geogre 03:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The inept ABC announcers liked the eye-gouging red-card (and were impressed that the ref saw it, since it was pretty quick) and they also liked the offsides call on the goal, the one that had the US coach in near-hysterics. They didn't like any of the sliding-tackle red- or yellow- cards. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so pleased the poor American people all been given this encouragement by the kindly Italian team, what magnamanitude, I weep with pride. Meantime!.. my beautiful page - what happened overnight? - It's bad enough having to add these distracting little numbers to every verb, bit now the cite police want to fight over their bloody form - it's enough to make a ELC's cat weep. I've half a mind not to finish it properly, but add another 5000 words on the beautiful Duchess and the treacherous Lord instead Giano | talk 08:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, Giano, you continue to do the writing, and let us little minds follow behind looking for hobgoblins. Those who can do — those who can't (like me), niggle about with citation style. As for the game of footsie, we Yanks have a saying: "a tie is like kissing your sister". Paul August 14:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Paul - Oh dear how can I explain this, you seem a little confused - footie is a game where one kicks a ball about a field with lots of other men, footsie is an altogether different game, played likewise with the feet, but discretly under a dining room table with another man's wife. Perhaps this could be one of the problems Americans have understanding the game of "footie! - More seriously I am almost (but not quite finished now) - I wasn't refering to you as cite police, but whoever the anon was, I am now confused though, am I supposed to be putting (Jones 367) or [1] etc. Giano | talk 14:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for rolling back the person who "pestered" me on my talk page. :) Extraordinary Machine 22:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. A real nogoodnik IP, that — a school, probably. Bishonen | talk 00:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Er...

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YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THIS HOUSE; THIS HOUSE IS LOOKING AT YOU.

Er, Jobjörn? Did you click on my links on WP:ANI? Here's a couple more. Many similar threads have been archived. Bishonen | talk 23:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Heh, no, I didn't, actually. I was (for some now lost reason) in a hurry and just thought I should comment on it. Thank you for clarifying :) Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 00:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your talk page is crazy by the way. Kittens and italian flags everywhere. wooah. overwhelming. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 00:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
[Proudly] I have gotten prizes for Craziest Talkpage! But the credit goes entirely to my... friends. Bishonen | talk 00:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
It deserves them. I'm almost willing to say it's worthy of an inclusion in the article on Surrealism... however, something tells me that wouldn't be appreciated. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 00:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right, no self-references. Bishonen | talk 00:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Exactly. Now I must be off to find an obscure image to add to your nonsensical talk page, accompanying our conversation appropriately. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 01:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Scary image added. My work here is done. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 01:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's the Lone Ranger's house on Tonto! Geogre 03:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that didn't work. According to Wikipedia, a hill in Stockholm is a Japanese dagger. Geogre 03:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The photo does not do this sculpture justice - it follows you around the sculture park. I recommend lunch sitting beside the large central circular fountain. One of my favourite places in D.C. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hate it when sculptures follow me around. I always end up looking even more physically ugly when a Rodin is standing behind me, looking thoughtful or engaging in public displays of affection. I was tremendously fond of the small pond around 80th St. E. in Central Park. From there, you could see the two redtail hawks perching and pooping on rich people's apartments. Geogre 14:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TM

It's time you start taking your job as an admin seriously, "Pretty boy."

[TM talk]

Peterklutz

<sigh> Someone's mantra appears to be a series of enraged expletives. You'll never reach enlightenment through POV forks or edit warring, I'm sure. Geogre 11:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A hairy article I like

I just wrote Genius (literature), and I like what I done (which no one will know), because I synthesized a large amount of obscure stuff. My reference said one thing (one approach to the subject, and a good 'un), and I synthesized with what I know, and no one will know how rare that was. Anyway, it's good, but I'm afraid that it's about 55 miles above anyone's head but yours. Geogre 14:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And, since it had been red, I did afflatus. I was a flautist in 4th grade, but I haven't had afflatus since I started taking charcoal pills. Geogre 03:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you blocked RhinoRick as a sock of Israel shamir. This was probably unfair, since RhinoRick is most likely a different person named Richard Wilcox. See here. --Denis Diderot 15:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Tanto, Stockholm that isn't a knife. (I made Tanto a dab.)
  2. Swedo-Finnish Modernists ("A group of significant poets in Finland writing in Sweding during and shortly after World War I....")

Geogre 12:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edith Södergran has a long article on sv (and as far as I can judge from a quick look a good one with actual references). It may be worth translating. Tanto or Tantolunden is a park on Södermalm. It's named after a person, Hans Tanto or Danto, who owned a plot there in the 17th century. It is also mentioned a couple of times in songs by Bellman. (A webpage on Tanto) Tupsharru 12:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you want more, eh? Fine: among the Swedo-Finnish Modernists listed in the Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics are:

  1. Edith Södergran
  2. Hagar Olsson
  3. Elmer Diktonius
  4. Gunnar Björling
  5. Rabbe Enckell
  6. Henry Parland,

and these people published in Ultra and Quosego. Their influence "can be seen in Sweden, particularly in the leading poetic modernist Gunnar Ekelöf, and in the fyrtiotalisterna (q.v.)." I don't think I'll vide at this time. Geogre 12:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Copyedits

Thanks. It is almost finished it just needs a hard prune, and re-write of the lead, It'll be a waste of time to copy-edit properly before then, as you know how I change things about, I've already hived a huge section off into a page of its own. I'm not happy with it at the moment, it's lacking an architectural essence to bring it together (don't worry, I know what I mean). Love Giano | talk 20:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't think there is much more to say about such a small house, but let me sleep on the new lead! What d'you think? Truth! Giano | talk 21:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Too long! Sort of... I don't know, a tad heavy? Not sunkissed? Bishonen | talk 22:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Mmmmmm I'm not happy with it either, I probably would vote for it on FAC, but only because I wrote it! Problem is people don't like sunkissed, I've shortened it by shunting the beautiful Duchess and the strong limbed aristo off to a "royal watcher's" delight of their own (even the wretched man's name makes me wince, his parents must have loathed him on sight), I'll have another drastic prune. Then of course we have the cite v footnote fiasco (sorry I know you hate that word) I think the (Smith, 245) method is distracting, but the little numbers method tempt people to click away in exited anticipation, they should be reserved for thrilling and gossipy peices of information that are a little off subject, but will entertain or enlighten the reader - I jave a couple of those, but should they be muddled up with all the fact citing - poor dear Agatha Christe never had these problems with writing her exiting books. I can see the page's problems just not quite get my mind arownd them. Anyhow I must do some proper work. Adieu. Giano | talk 13:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Idiot, that was my opinion of the lead section. I thought that was what we were talking about! Bishonen | talk 13:26, 20 June 2006

(UTC).

Happy birthday, Bishonen!

It's a birthday bug! (Don't anyone get "butterfly.jpg": it's obscene.)
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Enjoy this stirring performance from the Carey Baptist Grammar School band on your birthday, Bish! Bunchofgrapes
Hope you found a pot of gold on your birthday!MONGO

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Happy Birthday. A summer baby - how sweet. I of course was born in the winter! Giano
You guys are so sweet! Please join the salon, pull up a chair, help yourselves! La précieuse ridicule.

Still as cute and lithe as ever, and a little more wise. Happy birthday! (And Jonathan Swift used to read from Job 50 on his birthdays.) Have a butterfly! Geogre 02:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chortle. Thank you, dear Geogre. Everyone's lithe on the Internet! Bishonen | talk 13:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
A GIFT for your birthday! (I didn't know what to get you - this one is a cathedral, I hope you like it!) KillerChihuahua?!? 09:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aw, Puppy, how did you know I always wanted one! Bishonen | talk 10:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

When too many trolls turn up at the salon, bus them out! ++Lar: t/c 13:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday. You must be pleased to finally be old enough to drink! (KIDDING, I expect our fair Bishie is a LITTLE older than that, but a gentleman never asks... ahem... and neither do I!)++Lar: t/c 13:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I don't know about old enough to drink, Lar. "Highschooler" and "immature" are the favorite epithets that infuriated tro... eh, unhappy users, throw at me. I'm not even sure I'm old enough to ride in a bus that psychedelic. And for your other question: ARN. Bishonen | talk 13:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
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Swedish musical superstars Gert Jonnys have turned up to celebrate your birthday. Tupsharru 15:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC).....Que???..C'mon they are a spoof aren't they?.. they are aren't they? Giano. Studying the article... apparently, they have an internet cult following. "The members also have day jobs." :-) Bishonen....Probably a good idea Giano[reply]
They're all bozos on that bus!. Geogre 13:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Random Firesign Theater references are ALWAYS a good thing... so I guess I'll respond with Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right... ++Lar: t/c 14:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Jesus Just Left Chicago and I'm Waitin' on the Bus. (Yeah, a ZZTop reference, but a really old one.) Wasn't there a bus with a troll on it in the last episode of The Prisoner? Geogre 19:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
...filled with whatever marine product you prefer!
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Perhaps this is a more toothsome presentation after all. Have a happy and surreal birthday!! FreplySpang 14:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Happy B1FFday Bish'! How about a celebratory talk page archive? It's huge. --GraemeL (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What can I tell you, my friends are verbose. I'll try, but archiving seems to encourage them! Bishonen | talk 15:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
A barren page just seems to call out for scribbles, doesn't it? And further, it is better to have verbose friends than none at all. (My talk page seems to suffer the same problem as yours, my friends are always on about how it needs archiving) ++Lar: t/c 18:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday! Raul654 15:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This should scare away the eleven-year-old trolls! Happy birthday Bishonen! -- getcrunk ? 18:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no.. you must take Camilla with you, Your Majesty! -- getcrunk ? 18:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks crowded enough already, so I'll just give a *hug* in place of another image. Happy birthday!!! - Corbin Be excellent 19:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tsk tsk, Bishie, you're aiding and abetting mopery and dopery, delinquency of the spaceways, etc... Image:Gertjonnys-large.jpg is copyright (If I looked the way they do I wouldn't want my picture widely circulated, I must say, is that a chest wig I spot on one???) , thus fair use applies, thus not eligible for talk pages, but your enormous and rabid fan club won't let niceties like that stop them! ++Lar: t/c 20:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Enormous and rabid???? I am neither, and I resent the personal insunuation. 1) I had my shots and 2) I'm not enormous! I'm little! So I can't fit into the jeans I wore when I was 17, that's not the same as enormous!. And don't even try to pretend this wasn't aimed at me. SFAIK, I'm the only dog posting here in the salon. Hrmph. KillerChihuahua?!? 21:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Settle down your yappiness. It's the size of the club, not the sizes of the individual fans, for which enormous is the correct appelation. Most of us can't fit in the jeans we wore when we were seventeen (assuming we're at least 18), foam covered or no, but that's besides the point... And for the record any mammal can be rabid. ++Lar: t/c 23:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah but um, Bunch is a cluster of ... let me rephrase. We're not all mammals here. KillerChihuahua?!? 23:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It takes a mighty dose of rabies to make a Ge-ogre. I am a figure of great gravity, these days, as the earth seems to love me more and more and attract me ever more powerfully. Geogre 03:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another cake from me. Enough for everbody I think. Happy Birthday. Paul August 21:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, BIG CAKE! Bishonen | talk 22:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I hope it's for sharing. Happy birthday! Sam Korn (smoddy) 22:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Dearest Sam! If the ArbCom wasn't already in my pocket, you could have the WHOLE DELICIOUS THING! Bishonen | talk 23:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Season's greetings, from me! El_C 09:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Bishonen, would you consider counseling User:His excellency to remove the remaining personal attacks from his talk page, or removing them yourself? I don't mind him quoting me (though diffs are always helpful), but his section title is personalized, inflammatory, unsupported by the material contained in this section, and, most germanely to this discussion false. Other false claims, such as the allegation of homosexuality, also remain. I removed one section, but he reverted it. Block or no block, Wikipedia should not provide a platform for false and malicious claims.Timothy Usher 00:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since you're OK with the section itself — as you say, it's almost wholly made up of quotes from you — you mean will I counsel His Excellency to remove the heading "My charge that Timothy Usher is in fact a bigot", right? (Or remove it myself.) I'm afraid I won't. Sorry. You speak of that heading as if it said "Timothy Usher is in fact a bigot"; it doesn't, and I think the distinction matters. His E is discussing Tom Harrison's block reason — stating his case against it, defending himself against it, arguing that he shouldn't have been blocked for it. That's what blocked users do, at least very often they do, and I would be cautious in hamstringing anybody's self-defense; I think it's a context where latitude is necessary. I understand that you don't like the section title, I even sympathise, but I think there's a logic to it, as a description of his self-defense. I have blocked him for calling you a bigot, you know. When you speak of other false claims on His E's page, I'd like to look further before I reply to your request to have them removed. Please tell me what and where they are, especially the homosexuality allegation. I don't see them on a quick read-through, and the page is rather long. I presume you're not talking about the section you removed yourself, since that is the section with the heading "My charge..." etc, and you specify these as being other false claims. Bishonen | talk 17:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
I removed his "butt buddy" comment as well. Think Google, Bishonen. If you think it acceptable that my name pops up with a screaming headline calling me a bigot, preceded by "My Charge that" or not...well, think again. Anyhow, he's already thought the better of it and changed it.Timothy Usher 19:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We're not responsible for Google, though, and Bishonen's right: it's his talk page, and he labelled it according to what he wanted to do. We can't take responsibility for what some postulated person might understand from a search. Those of us jealous of our real life identities use assumed names on Wikipedia, and those who use real names are, more or less, accepting that this online world is going to be irresponsible with that name. Geogre 19:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's conceivable that the office might disagree.Timothy Usher 19:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free, by all means, to contact the Foundation. Geogre 20:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am sending this message to serious contributors who may be interested in articles related to U.S. politics. I believe I am receiving an unreasonable response-- and at times insulting and rude-- from the editors of Norm Coleman article, who refuse to remove a section that may offer some interesting trivia for Wikipeidia users, but is irrelevant to people interested in reading an encyclopedia article on a member of U.S. Senate. If you have time, please take a look at the article. Regards. 172 | Talk 03:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does the article (based on an obit) do him justice? Who is his aunt, Ture Rangström? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ALoan I can't beleive you don't know who Ture Rangström, I even had you marked as a radio 3 person, now I must re-assess you. Poor old Mrs Rangström. Giano | talk 16:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Radio 4, particularly TMS on longwave, I am afraid. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've just knocked off a little stub from memory, I often hum one of his catchy little numbers in the bath Giano | talk 17:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Gyllensten died? Wow, that's sad, but...on the other hand, Ture Rangström his aunt (snicker)? One thinks irresistibly of Charley's Aunt. A nationally well-known composer, yes. Well done Giano! Gyllensten needs a fuller article IMO. I'll look into it (though I fully expect Tups to get there first). Bishonen | talk 17:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Yes, thanks for the stub on the aunt, Big G. (I think a machine mistranslated/misparsed "whose sister was"/"sister of"... Have you seen who wrote Charley's Aunt? ;)
There is not much more on Lars at sv:Lars Gyllensten, unfortunately. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. To be absolutely frank, the phrasing of the Swedish article sounds a goodish deal like it thinks Gyllensten was the sister of Ture Rangström, lol. Bishonen | talk 18:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
  • Oh dear, how can people be so culturally ignorant, one despairs - had there been no Rangström there would have been no Abba - then where would you be on a Saturday night ALoan? Giano | talk 18:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ignorant? Pah. Did you see my Pellegrini on the Main Page? -- ALoan (Talk) 19:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added a link to the English version of Gyllensten's official SA bio. Now we are waiting for someone to write an article on Östen Sjöstrand. I added him to the deaths in May page). Tupsharru 13:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Persuade a UK broadsheet to do an obit and I'll write him up. But sv:Östen Sjöstrand exists, although it is pretty stubby: why not translate? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
His official biopage is still up: English version. (I hope the Academy will move these to some archive rather than just deleting them from the website after the chairs have new sitters.) Tupsharru 13:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks a lot!

Hello. I just finished my last exam today, so I am now back! Thank you very much for looking after my user page and also posting the relevant stuff on my arbitration; I am indebted - if there is anything you need or want doing, then just ask. :) I'll try my best, if it's not too much effort :P -- infinity0 15:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. I'll hold you to it. ;P Bishonen | talk 19:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

The measure of genius

I've just written a nice little e-mail to my disciples explaining the critical history of "genius" before the era my article discusses. I'll share it with you later, as the question is whether or not I ought to change genius (literature) to incorporate it or if that would be repeating, essentially, stuff from the articles on poetry, Plato, and Pentecost. Geogre 17:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have disciples? Acolytes too? Is tonsure required? ++Lar: t/c 21:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not tonsure but tenure, not heaven but purgatory unending. We make a heaven of hell and a hell of working 4 hours a day. Geogre 22:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No one told me

No one told me it was your birthday. Many Wishes and regards. As a birthday present, go ahead and make yourself a copy of my toolbox/Wiki-links located on my User page. Martial Law 21:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Bishonen | talk 21:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]


Belvedere

It is Belvedere (structure), the army are hiding in the trees because they were based in the park during the wars, take them out if you like, I just thought ir was nice to give them a plug! I'm like that kind, caring and thoughtful. I won't edit in case you are in there. Giano | talk 12:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just was, but right now I'm going out for at least an hour. The Lead is fantastic now! :-) Bishonen | talk 12:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
What a gyp! I looked at that article, and I didn't see anything there about the owner of the place, Mr. Belvedere. He needed lots of security guards. Geogre 12:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm going out now too, to kick some ass - may return in a good mood about 6, on the other hand I could return in foul mood. Lead looks great! Thanks Giano | talk 13:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Would it look out of place in my pleasure gardens? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You know, Ranelagh and the various Augustan gardens are amazingly involved subjects. One neat thing, though, is that they kind of evolved from the established habit of the mall. St. James, in particular, had become something like a pleasure garden, when it had begun just as an open space. As fashionable folks did the promenade, other people (mercantile people) showed up to entertain and furnish them. Therefore, when there were developed public spaces, they sort of settled on classical models that would match reality. Geogre 13:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe if you want Mr. Belvedere linked in there is a vandal that would be HAPPY to oblige you there. Some luser admin blocked him though, I think. Oh, and Giano kick ass??? I thought he's like, all gentle and stuff? Giano: does the chest wig slip off while you are asskicking? ++Lar: t/c 13:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unlinking it. Since I am adjudged an AOLuser because of my ISP, I don't want people to think I'm a vandal and get the entire ISP blocked indefinitely. Geogre 13:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No it goes on my head! Giano | talk 13:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

159.218.41.27's continued vandalism

I noted that you have already warned 159.218.41.27 for repeated vandalism. They're still at it. I'd like to request that the vandal be blocked. Cheers, Kasreyn 15:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've given 'em a week this time. Here's hoping there's no collateral damage, keep your fingers crossed. And thank you! Bishonen | talk 15:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

YAE

Yet another essay wending your way via e-mail. This is my statement of political principles. I come out firmly as a Tory. Geogre 17:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In that case I'm sure you will be big fan of the seated Great Jonny who looks just like Mrs Thatcher when younger. Giano | talk 18:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not that kind of Tory. Besides, I think they'd already started calling themselves conservatives, which is a good thing, as it separates them from their better past. I think Thatcher was the reincarnation of Walpole. In the 1720's, if you were an anti-Walpolean, you were a Tory. Geogre 20:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Into the breach I go, armed with nothing to say and 4 hr to say it in. Time to speak slowly and digress often. Geogre 21:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you said it superbly. ;P. But I'm a little conflicted about your Tory essay. Bishonen | talk 06:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Nominated

Have nominated, thank you for all your help. I'm off to bed now, if you are staying up late, look after it for me. Giano | talk 23:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well it looks to be going OK...so far! Good work last night. Have to pick the tools up now for a couple of hours, see you later. Giano | talk 08:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
so far so good, you like English lit, what do you know about pride and prejudice? Giano | talk 12:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What was the nom? I need to go look at it and then rashly speak out against for it... As for " pride and prejudice", Giano... I'm not prejudiced against your pride! Hope that helps. PS, Italy's valiant sacrifice on behalf of USA was much appreciated but unfortunately was not enough, USA has been eliminated. Oh well. ++Lar: t/c 12:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quabble

Quibble is what I meant, but I think 'quabble' sounds so much lovelier... anyway I just attacked the ice cream truck and I'm too tired to use 'real' words. Has anyone ever raised the issue of discrimination against made-up words on Wikipedia at WikiProject:Countering Systemic Bias? RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 01:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What you got yourself there is a Neoplorgismanteau. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
quabble (n.) - a minor complaint (or quibble (q.v.)) that is half way through escalation into a major argument (or squabble (q.v.)) -- ALoan (Talk) 10:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

=P

Sorry to bother you with another EE related issue. (I know you're probably just as tired of hearing it's name as everyone else is) But you're the only admin on Wikipedia I know. I'll try to make it short. (S)He "happened" upon an image I uploaded to the site and removed it along with another image claiming they didn't have fair use rationale[1]. It's obvious this is all being done to atagonize me, but his/her sthick is tired and I'm done feeding the troll, playing his/her little games to keep him/her entertained. So if you could just look at the fair use rationale, see if it passes muster and if not, suggest what I should add to it to reinclude it in the image. Thanks again!

P.S. Happy belated birthday, I'm the 21st of June, close enough. HeyNow10029 02:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, almost-birthday twin. I wonder if we could construct a wiki birthday chain that runs a whole year round? Raul654 is June 19, so there's a three-day core already. :-) Speaking of belatedness, I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner. I would kind of prefer e-mail on this subject, rather than give Eternal Equinox any excuse to resume his/her Eternal Entertainment of jumping into my conversations with other people on this page. Have you considered fixing up your wiki mail so people can contact you that way? Bishonen | talk 18:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
That's actually a really neat idea! As for the other thing, e-mail would be a better way to communicate. I'll send you a basic e-mail so you'll know it's me. HeyNow10029 19:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why I responded as I did

You have written to me four times now, and the first three included threats to block me.
Your first post to me started with the gentle "Desist immediately if you don't want to be blocked. And, yes, I have clicked on your links in the exchange immediiately above, and see nothing which justifies this kind of harassment. It doesn't make any difference if your warnings are justified"
I did try to dialogue with you and explain the situation and my understanding of the official policy as a victim of an unwarranted attack. What I got from you was threat, threat, threat. Please forgive me if I don't view block threats as speaking as one grown-up to another, appealing to a better side, or treating me with respect. They are just a standard bullying technique that appear to me to be regularly employed by some Admins.
I am a very reasonable person and very willing to dialogue, however after my treatment from other Admins, I am increasingly disenchanted with them, their disregard for the communities' policies, and frequent attempts to make up policy violations to justify their need to take administrative action. I apologize if you don't behave like this, but if you read my RfAr you can see why I am disenchanted.
What really got me with your post is that you stated that civility and personal attacks are absolutely notorious for being subjective and debatable. Your statements make it seem like you don't consider them worthy to warn other users about. Of course you threatened to block me over harassment, which is a form of a personal attack. You made a subjective call, which the user didn't even allege. To me that is quite hypocritical.
Of course the worst part is I took time to demonstrate that I felt as if I was the victim of a personal attack. That must have some validity. Yet your comments and actions make it look like the situation is somehow my fault. If the user didn't attack me three times, with the encouragement of another Admin, I would not have had to post a tag on their talk page. Given all the attention it has received, and the comments from other Admins that I was justified, why didn't someone else warn the user. He clearly does not veiw my post as legitimate, so someone should help me. By removing my post from his talk page, you helped him, not me, and I was the one he repeatedly attacked.
I hope this is clear. PoolGuy 04:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


hey Bishonen

Hey dude,

thanks for your concern r.e. the abu saga (or as I like to call it the abu graib saga!). Basically, I just overheated a little when he systematically went through all of my edits/images to see if they were 'fair use' or not. I mean God, what a sad existence the guy must have! Jesus Christ, what a loser! I'm surprised he didn't answer my questions though, and felt the need to come crawling to 'the feds' - there was me thinking he wanted to be a cop - guess he's not cut out for it! Still I'll follow your advice and stay civil - you never know when Henry Kissinger's going to drop in do you? Twat.

Oh btw I'm being sarcastic. Megawattbulbman 15:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know you are in on this already, but you and Geogre are the literature people, I want to do a page on a comletely fictitious building so this "User:Giano/Rosings Park" is a bit of fun and conjecture probably breaking all the rules too, do you have an opinion, Chatsworth claims it is Pemberly how do you see Rosings - Geogre I know you will see this here so I'm not spamming your page, or yours Aloan (turn that dreadful classic FM down for a moment - and listen) your'e English you must have an opinion. I think we should bear in mind if Rosings is stil standing it is probably a very badly run Prep School, my stomach and buttocks are churning at the very mention of the word - I wonder why - that is a red link - one for you ALoan Giano | talk 17:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

jeopardy shmepardy

:o)

I should remember to look on the bright side of AN/I more dab () 21:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never let the Dark Side take over. ^_^ Bishonen | talk 21:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Summer is near

Hi Bishonen, you might not remember me well, we met a while ago. Much has changed, I am an admin now, and it is almost summer, at least in Seattle. Here is a squirt gun, a late birthday present, to be used for fun in the thaw since S. A. Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897, or for zapping vandals. Hope there are warmer climes in your next FA. DVD+ R/W 01:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

File:Super soaker.jpg
A squirt gun for zapping vandals
Thank you. I was thinking of primping up the Great Fire of London, so the gun should come in handy! Bishonen | talk 14:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Wow, an inferno, timely reading and writing. Up to you it could be wikipedia's summer blockbuster. If I had access to a better library right now, I'd offer to help write about the architectural losses, and the reconstrucion. However, I am not close enough to one, and have to make do with purchases on Amazon, with a meagre budget. I could use a monograph on Christopher Wren though. Anyway, hope all is well. DVD+ R/W 19:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lumione

The text has been copied. Thank you.

Cool. Bishonen | talk 14:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

User talk:Leonard23

This is last time I am telling you to leave my talk page alone with your reverts or edits. If not, I am reporting vandalism and harassment on both you and CFIF to the administrators. It is my page and if I want to leave it blank that is my permission and not yours to make. Leonard23 9:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

No, your talkpage is not "yours", it's a wikipedia page and subject to certain rules. This one for instance: don't remove valid vandalism warnings. Perhaps you think Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Leonard23 is yours, too? Bishonen | talk 14:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
By the way, you're being discussed on the adminstrators' noticeboard. You can put your side of things here if you like. Bishonen | talk 14:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Speaking of which...

I think this is a WP:BITE violation. Apparently, Erwin Schwab, the user Erwinschwab (talk · contribs), is an astronomer working at the Starkenburg Observatory, and all the asteroids added by him to Wikipedia and removed as copyright violations by CambridgeBayWeather (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) were discovered by him and his colleagues at that observatory. The correct way to go about here would, I think, have been to actually {{welcome}} the user and explain that he needs to prove that he has permission to post these articles on Wikipedia or change the wording a bit. But calling it "disruption" is just extremely rude. I pointed this out to CBW (his reply). I don't want to be one of the rättshaverists complaining about rouge admins on ANI. What should one do? Tupsharru 20:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A very new user. :-( I'll be frank, Tups. I don't think you made it quite clear to CBW what your focus was, i.e. the newbie-biting, the lack of talking with the user and lack of a friendly voice explaining what the problem was. I thought you indirect. CBW seems to have taken your post as complaining that it shouldn't have been a speedy; only that, no more nor less. Yet that wasn't your point. If I were you, I would write to CBW more explicitly. Incidentally, this worried me a little. Bishonen | talk 21:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Copyvio

Haha yeah, it is well put plus I'm still learning on how to talk like a wikipedians and the situation feels right. Unfortunately, it was removed by Andrew Norman. Anyway, I feel for you so I'm not gonna use it again. By the way, happy belated b-day. Peace out.--Bonafide.hustla 21:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bishonen | talk 22:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

RFAR

I have filed an RFAR against User:Eternal_Equinox listing you as an involved party at [[2]]. -- HeyNow10029 23:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to your statement. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Jones