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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q1 2013
The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 6, No. 1 — 1st Quarter, 2013
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Hi. I'm curious what assertion in this article you considered a claim of significance. All I can tell from it is that a band created the group, that band is its ONLY client, it has a partner label, there's a reason it was created, and there's a reason for its name. —Largo Plazo (talk) 21:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- If something is created by a notable entity, the assumption is that said creation is potentially important or significant as well, at least enough to fail A7. And even if were to meet A7, which it doesn't, the deletion policy clearly states that it should be merged to the main article, not deleted. So even if you're assessment about its lack of importance/significance had been correct, tagging it for speedy deletion would still have been a mistake. Regards SoWhy 14:43, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- I guess I get the rationale. Is a consensus on that recorded somewhere? Either way, I agree in retrospect, redirecting would have been the right course. Thanks. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- Not as such. I collected a number of reasons I have seen other admins use and have used myself at WP:A7M though. Since A7 is intended for clear-cut cases, I think the basic formula is: If there is any reason at all to assume that the subject might be important or significant, then it's not up to a single admin to decide. A7 was created to weed out personal entries by high school kids, garage bands or your favorite hot dog stand - but not anything else. Regards SoWhy 17:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Way back in 2009 you closed the template for deletion for this template at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 April 25#Template:Jackie Chan Films as "speedy delete as G4" as being a recreation since the template was previously discussed and deleted at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 January 16#Template:Fred Astaire Films. For whatever reason the template was never deleted and still exists to this day. Could you please delete the template now? Thank you, Aspects (talk) 15:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, I did delete it because consensus at that time was that such templates shouldn't be used. Nyttend (talk · contribs) restored it in 2013 with the reasoning "Nowhere near the same as what was deleted before", so you should take it up with them. Since consensus might have changed on this issue in the past six years, I wouldn't delete it based on the 2008 TFD anyway. Regards SoWhy 15:22, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Aspects, G4 is for reposts of deleted content, so anything that's been extensively modified doesn't qualify: anything with fourteen separate substantial revisions clearly isn't a repost. If you would check the deleted content (of course I'm not complaining that you didn't), you would see that the current template is substantially larger and laid out completely differently. We have a speedy criterion for reposts in order to get rid of stuff that already got deleted, not to stifle the creation of different content with the same name and/or subject; if G4 were meant to prevent the latter, we'd salt deleted titles. Nyttend (talk) 15:31, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Since I am not a sysop, I cannot see what the previous template looked like, so I have no way of comparing the templates. As to the history it makes it look like the template was never deleted back in 2009 and that the next edit was then made by Nyttend in 2013. As for the 14 significant edits, those changes in the release history show adding nowrap templates and fixed links away from disambiguation articles, which I would hardly call significant or having a different layout does not make the template suddenly not have the issues that it had before at TfD. Consensus has not changed since 2009 in that WP:MOSFILM still states that actor navigational templates should be deleted, but I guess I will have to take this to TfD. Aspects (talk) 15:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Nyttend: Actually, I deleted it in 2009 because while the content might have changed, the consensus of the TFD still was against having a template like this at all, no matter what it looked like. Even as someone who is really strict when it comes to deletions I'm aware that it would be against the spirit of G4 to allow pages to be recreate when it's clear that consensus is against having a page like this at all - not just a page like this with certain content. But as I said above, consensus can change and I don't think a 2008 TFD is enough to delete a page in 2014. Regards SoWhy 16:27, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Aspects, G4 is for reposts of deleted content, so anything that's been extensively modified doesn't qualify: anything with fourteen separate substantial revisions clearly isn't a repost. If you would check the deleted content (of course I'm not complaining that you didn't), you would see that the current template is substantially larger and laid out completely differently. We have a speedy criterion for reposts in order to get rid of stuff that already got deleted, not to stifle the creation of different content with the same name and/or subject; if G4 were meant to prevent the latter, we'd salt deleted titles. Nyttend (talk) 15:31, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Request for nomination as an admin
You mentioned that you're the type of person who would be willing to sponsor someone as an administrator on Wikipedia. I tried nominating myself back in 2005 after I'd only been here a couple of years and that was shot down, mainly because I guess it was felt I hadn't taken it all that seriously.
Now, nine years later I think I've gone as far as I can as a regular editor and I think my behavior and the quality of my many thousands of edits and talents indicate I qualify to become an admin. I'll give you some examples.
- Check almost any page on area codes for the United States, like List of California area codes or Area code 202 and you'll find the map I did for them, which is now using SVG instead of PNG so the map resizes automatically and without blur.
- Every area code page for North America has a box in it indicating the area codes near to it or in the same state, so someone can navigate to nearby area codes.
- Some of the area codes Area Code 602, have maps that are marked with a clickmap so you can click on the page representing a nearby area code and move to it.
- Check out 2013, 2014 and 2015, the first one's first paragraph says "2013 was a" the second says "2014 is the current year, and is a" and 2015 says "2015 will be a". Guess what happens on January 1? Just what it did before when we changed years to 2014. 2014 will say "2014 was a," 2015 will say "2015 is the current year, and is a" and 2016 will still say "2016 will be a," and this all happened automatically through template syntax, it eliminates temporal editing, the page is automatically accurate without manual intervention.
- Look at the main page for Wiktionary. Do you know why it has an alphabetical index on it? Because I thought of it first, and put it on there (this was back in the days when anyone could edit the main page.) It's become one of the important features.
- Look at my own user page, notice I have implemented "tabbed wikipedia" where my page points to all of the years I was here and individual years can be navigated to. I documented and streamlined this feature so it was easy for anyone to use on their pages.
This is just some of the things I have done to make Wikipedia a better place, and I think with Administrator privileges I can do more things to make things better. Like, say I have an idea for a really good improvement to the main page, I can discuss that - that is a big change that I wouldn't do without getting a consensus - and if there's no objection then I can implement it without having to beg someone to do it for me. For less important but otherwise protected pages where I can see there is room for a really good improvement, I can just offer it.
But I do think I would qualify and I'd like your input and whether you think I would be worth sponsoring as an administrator. I've asked a couple other people, not to try to play one off against the other, but so that if I'm not up to snuff you or they can give me some input into where I'm deficient. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 21:07, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- I think Casliber (talk · contribs) mentioned a couple of good points, so I won't repeat them. Like him, I also don't think you have a chance at this time with your low edit count. Also, remember to use edit summaries, I personally don't support anyone not using them >99% of the time. Regards SoWhy 16:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Explanation?
Can you please explain why you deleted User:Olliemilne with no reason, no vandalism, and just basically no good intention whatsoever? Surely you, as an admin, should not be carrying out hasty user page deletes with no real evidence of vandalism? -- bydand•talk 09:12, 18 May 2014 (UTC)