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March 6

13:39:50, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Dredmorbius


I created a basic bibliographic page for NPR's current CEO, head of a major news organization of note and with some recent turmoil having had eight CEOs in eight years. Inspiration was looking at his [ current interview] on Diane Rehm's show and realizing that he had no Wikipedia entry.

The article is brief, but I'll submit that Mohn meets the requirements for notability. I've also sourced data from both NPR (a news organization itself) and The New York Times. Otherwise:

I'll allow that the article is a stub, though that was my intent: create a basic starting point for more information. It does cite multiple sources. It cites sources included in numerous other similar articles of persons holding the same position previously. It cites independent sources.

I'll add additional citation(s) to the article.

Again: I'd turned to Wikipedia for information on Mohn and was surprised it wasn't present. So I fixed the problem.

Dredmorbius (talk) 13:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted, congratulations. The sources you added after the previous review - newspapers such as LA Times, Washington Post, etc are exactly what it needed. BTW there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with creating stub articles, you do not need to be defensive about that. If you can find some more biographical detail such as where and when he was born, more detail about his education, where does he live, is he married, etc. that would fill it out and upgrade it from stub. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I realize part of this is probably just the templated responses and such. "Subject is notably but another non-NPR source would help" is the sort of hint that would have helped. I figured I'd just slather on more until the next reviewer got sick of 'em (and notice you knocked a couple off the final product). All's good.
The additional information is actually some of what I hoped to elicit in creating the article. Watching him talk in the Diane Rehm clips made me curious as to just who he was and what makes him tick. Not a whole lot of biographical data that I've found but I'll keep an eye out.
That's the first time I've used the full citation format, it's actually kind of slick (in output), though cumbersome to write. is there some sort of bot support for standardizing references to that format? Dredmorbius (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dredmorbius: I assume you already know about the RefToolbar, but if not it can help fill in references. There's also reFill and Reflinks that can automatically fill in some info from a bare URL. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ahecht: No, actually, I handn't. I'd copied the template out in vim and was doing a range copy and filling out values there, then inserting into Wikipedia. So thanks! Dredmorbius (talk) 06:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dredmorbius: Reflinks is a mature tool which I use a quite often, reFill is still under development and clunky, imho should not have been deployed yet. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:36, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:52:44, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Tasna8

I used another page (Endomondo) as a template to make sure to be as objective as needed. I am not sure that my entry is more advertisy than the on for the Endomondo page and the sources also seem similar. I woul dlike to have more in depth feedback why these 2 articles are so different that one is live and one is declined. Thank you so much!

Tasna8 (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tasna8: The Endomondo article isn't a particularly good example. You should use articles rated as B-class or better by WikiProject Software or WikiProject Apps as examples. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:24:50, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Stereotyp123


Dear Wikipedia Advances Users,

sorry in case its an easy question but I am totally new to this topic. I have tried to creat this page (XTR HUMAN) and it was declined. Is there anything against the Wikipedia Policies? It is a site for my band but only relevant informations and it is not in a promotional way I think.

would be great to get a feedback how it can be changed respecting the guidelines.

Kindly Regards, Johannes

Stereotyp123 (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stereotyp123, we can't rely solely on personal knowledge or your band's website/social media. Wikipedia needs reliable outside sources of information like newspapers, magazines, books, and so on. This is true even if the information is not promotional. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:00:21, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Facingproject


I have edited my submission, but when I do a preview it doesn't show all of the content I have entered. The preview, and the preview on the saved and submitted page, only shows the first paragraph of the entire article. I'm not sure if this is a glitch and the entire article submission was received, or if there is a glitch and for some reason the entire article was not submitted. I've included what I've submitted as the edits below:

Content copied from draft
The Facing Project is a for-profit, [[social venture]] company founded by J.R. Jamison and Kelsey Timmerman, and it has its headquarters in [[Muncie, Indiana]]. The company developed and licenses a model for community storytelling projects. Projects have focused on topics such as [[homelessness]], [[human trafficking]], [[poverty]], [[hunger]], [[sexual violence]], [[autism]], [[disabilities]], and [[addiction]]. The individual facing the topic is referred to as the storyteller. The storyteller meets with an assigned writer face-to-face, and then the writer writes the story in the first person as if they are the storyteller. <ref>http://m.roanoke.com/news/education/higher_education/facing-rockbridge-seeks-the-human-stories-beyond-statistics/article_68bf4c94-78e6-5309-9523-4084c47ba557.html?mode=jqm<ref> Each project produces a book and hosts a theatrical monologue event open to the community. The company’s stated mission is to “connect people through stories to strengthen communities.”<ref>http://www.facingproject.com/about<ref> ==Reception== The Facing Project has been featured on [[NPR]]<ref>http://wabe.org/post/facing-sex-trafficking-artistic-approach?utm_referrer=http%3A//m.wabe.org/%3Futm_referrer%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fm.facebook.com%23mobile/53855<ref><ref>http://wboi.org/programs/facing-project<ref> and [[The Huffington Post]]<ref>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/an-inside-look-at-autism-_b_5228060.html<ref><ref>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/spokenword-artist-capture_b_6607344.html<ref>, covered on [[PBS]]<ref>http://aibtv.com/<ref>, named “one of three oral history projects to watch” by The Huffington Post<ref>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-souleo-wright/on-the-a-wsouleo-three-or_b_5574013.html<ref>, and has drawn the attention of political figures including [[House Majority Leader]] [[Mitch McConnell]].<ref>http://www.thetimestribune.com/news/article_c758c626-33de-11e4-90c1-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm<ref> ==Further Information== The Facing Project website<ref>http://www.facingproject.com<ref> ==References== {{reflist}} * http://m.roanoke.com/news/education/higher_education/facing-rockbridge-seeks-the-human-stories-beyond-statistics/article_68bf4c94-78e6-5309-9523-4084c47ba557.html?mode=jqm * http://www.facingproject.com/about * http://wabe.org/post/facing-sex-trafficking-artistic-approach?utm_referrer=http%3A//m.wabe.org/%3Futm_referrer%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fm.facebook.com%23mobile/53855 * http://wboi.org/programs/facing-project * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/an-inside-look-at-autism-_b_5228060.html * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/spokenword-artist-capture_b_6607344.html * http://aibtv.com/ * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-souleo-wright/on-the-a-wsouleo-three-or_b_5574013.html * http://www.thetimestribune.com/news/article_c758c626-33de-11e4-90c1-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm * http://www.facingproject.com/
@Facingproject:  Fixed You were surrounding your references with either <ref><ref> tags or <ref><ref/> tags. The correct format is to use <ref></ref>. Without the / at the beginning of the </ref> tag to indicate the end of the reference, Wikipedia was assuming that the rest of your article was still part of the reference. Your article actually appears to have two copies of the text in it, but I'll leave it up to you to decide which one to keep.
On another note, please see the message on your talk page about your username. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

22:56:22, 6 March 2015 review of submission by 187.163.74.215

I have a question because my editor states the article lacks notable resources, but all are wither original company web site links or renowned information source links (such as fox news and yahoo finance). I am posting for the registry, the owner of the .rest and .bar domains, matter of the subject of the article. The information I am using to cite is even present on the press information that Punto 2012 and the .rest website show as back-up and credit for what it stands for. ¿Does it have to do witht he fact that .rest was launched less than a year ago? Here are all the links I am using as reference:

http://www.punto2012.com/ http://www.register.rest/ http://www.register.bar/ http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140714005206/en/.REST-.BAR-Global-Domains-Restaurants-Bars-General#.VPob_3yG91Y http://finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurants-bars-over-world-rest-120000898.html http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/06/17/restaurants-and-bars-now-have-their-own-domain-names/ http://gtld.easyspace.com/launch-periods


187.163.74.215 (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@187.163.74.215: Generally, you need multiple citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article to show notability. The businesswire and yahoo finance links are to press releases, which are not considered independent. The Fox News article is a good start, but you would need a few more similar references before your article would be accepted. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 7

04:37:45, 7 March 2015 review of submission by Badbyrd777


Badbyrd777 (talk) 04:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Badbyrd777: Do you have a question about your draft? If so, please click the "edit" link next to the section heading and add your question below this response. But you should read the decline reason and follow the links first (especially the golden rule). Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:34, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 07:26:55, 7 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Bfpage



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23:49:40, 7 March 2015 review of submission by 108.56.190.10


108.56.190.10 (talk) 23:49, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I am the subject's grandson. He passed away when I was very young. For this content I have primarily sourced newspaper articles I have in print but as far as I know do not to exist online. I do reference these sources.

I am new at this. I did remove peacock language I could identify. Would you be able to point out examples where you would like me to address the tone? He was a pioneer in fine arts materials and did invent categories of products. That is factual, not intended to be promotional.

Appreciate any more specific guidance you can offer.

Sincerely, Eric Weber

  • Newspaper articles are suitable. In a reference we need the name of the news paper, the date it was published, the page, the headline title, and author if you know it. Many newspapers are being scanned, digitised and appearing online. So if you have lost the page number or issue ( by having just a cutting) then there is still a chance the source can be found. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 8

01:20:24, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Cashiers


I added an article and it was rejected for including copywritten information. I don't think it does. Help?

Cashiers (talk) 01:20, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The original article copied chunks of contributer profiles from the podcast's website. You seem to have corrected this and the article is properly submitted for re-review, and will be checked again in due course. Rankersbo (talk) 04:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

03:45:46, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Alfhild-anthro


Is there a glossary of Wikipedia lingo? What does it mean when I read that someone patrolled my user page? Thanks for your help.Alfhild-anthro (talk) 03:45, 8 March 2015 (UTC) Alfhild-anthro (talk) 03:45, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Alfhild-anthro. All that means is that someone checked your user page and found no serious problems (inappropriate material). Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 05:46, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Alfhild-anthro - I found the WP:Glossary! I've been active here for more than seven years and didn't know it existed until now. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

04:42:00, 8 March 2015 review of submission by ChristopherMichaelMartens


ChristopherMichaelMartens (talk) 04:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I want to learn about and contribute to the Chinese name hong long

Well first of all find out what others have written about Hong Long. Newspapers, and other websites are a good place to start. If this person is you then I suggest you leave it to someone else to write. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

05:28:24, 8 March 2015 review of submission by 108.184.199.62

I was wondering what references I would need to make my article valid? 108.184.199.62 (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Material which was posted here after being copied from a website has been deleted to prevent copyright issues. —Anne Delong (talk) 10:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.103.173 (talk) 08:35, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 202.142.103.173. Please don't copy text published into Wikipedia. We can see it if you link to it like this: "About Us, THE ELECTRONIC MONSTERZZ PRODUCTIONS" Unfortunately, that's not an independent source, but a piece of advertising copy that is posted on several other sites, and is suitable for fan page, not an encyclopedia. News reports, magazine articles, reviews, etc. are what you need instead. —Anne Delong (talk) 10:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:15:20, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Eudy

Dear everyone!

I need help. I don't know why my article was declined... Can someone explain me and/or help me to realize this article to be accepted?

Thank you.

Eudy (talk) 11:15, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Eudy: A core principle of Wikipedia is that information must come from reliable published sources (newspapers, magazines, books, and the like), not personal knowledge. In addition, the majority of these sources should be independent of the organization or other subject being discussed. Please read this page for more information. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:04, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:08:59, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Snehahurrain


Snehahurrain (talk) 17:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When I was preparing the page "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Farman_Nawaz" , I studied more than 15 pages of Pakistani columnists/journalists. It is almost designed on the same pattern but still this page is not able to satisfy the admins. I resolved the notability issues, authentic references issues, explained the previous deletion causes but again it is declined.

18:12:43, 8 March 2015 review of submission by NewShrewsbury


I'm just curious -- I've gotten two very standard "this needs more citations" responses on the Bhanu Kapil page that was rejected. I've enclosed a number of links to well-regarded arts journals, as well as showing the subject's participation in a major art event. Is it more a question of "this person just isn't important enough to merit a page"? (I saw, for instance, that Caroline Bergvall merits a page, and I'd think that the two of them are at about a similar level of importance/critical respect/etc.) If I'm getting a "please add citations to neutral sources" -- some more information on what that would be (or why the sources that I've posted are lacking) would be great. Is it just that more sources are needed, or are the ones that I have posted absolutely worthless? If it comes down to "if the subject hasn't received a New York Times profile, they're not relevant enough for Wikipedia" -- okay. But with this -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals -- as a guideline, I'm trying to hit all of those bases.

Now, again -- if the subject is considered too obscure, and nothing I'm going to do will change that? That's totally fine. I'll delete the article and not bother the community again.

NewShrewsbury (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NewShrewsbury: I've Accepted it. You can improve it by adding references to pieces where she has been interviewed. Such as [1] and [2] that's the kind of stuff we want. Cut out the bits like "one of the most vital writers working today, and a crucial writer (and thinker) of postcolonial and displaced identity.". Wikipedia doesn't care what critics think. It just comes off as promotionalism. We just like facts and to be able to see that the subject has been discussed by people uninvolved with them. Bellerophon talk to me 23:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:05:00, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Vivekgupta23


I am new in wikipedia and my draft is recently rejected. please help me in knowing the reason and please send me some reference which will help me to create a powerful and good article. Vivekgupta23 (talk) 19:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Vivekgupta23: Please read this page, which explains the basic requirement we have for articles. If you believe it meets those requirements, find the necessary sources and rewrite the article. It seems you are connected to the company, so you may also want to take some time to read this guide. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 21:59, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:04:50, 8 March 2015 review of submission by Unburden

My article has not been accepted after reviewed twice. I have a question about the sources I used. There are not more sources available. But all information about the artist and his work you can find in that sources I mentioned. The book "Ex_Cavations", the english homepage with a text, the article of the france newspaper which describes his connection to Hölderlins poetry at the exhibition at Goethe-Institut Nancy. You can find this article at the main site of the homepage. The same sources had been accepted at the german Wikipedia-site "Holger Walter".Thank's for help--Unburden (talk) 20:04, 8 March 2015 (UTC) Unburden (talk) 20:04, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Unburden: If there isn't enough significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article, then it may be WP:TOOSOON for an article about Holger Walter. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 9

00:51:11, 9 March 2015 review of submission by 24.34.11.217


24.34.11.217 (talk) 00:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Are you asking about Draft:Metaverse(verse)? If so, please understand that Wikipedia does not accept original research. Original research is anything that hasn't been published somewhere else before. If you want to talk about a new idea, you should try to get it published in an academic journal, or just write about it on a blog. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 03:55:56, 9 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Leighann.chow


My Wikipedia article was declined as it said it sounds like an advertisement and I would like to follow up to find out what specifically sounds like an advertisement and what I can change. Saigon Asset Management is an investment fund that has received coverage from numerous third party sources. Links were included to archived third party news source articles from the Saigon Asset Management website because some of these links are no longer active on the third party site.

Also, I followed the format of other investment funds listed on Wikipedia. This Wikipedia entry is no different to other investment fund entries such as these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Asset_Management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Capital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekong_Capital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Frontier_Capital_Ltd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_Capital

Why are these funds able to have a Wikipedia page?

Leighann.chow (talk) 03:55, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just because an article exists on Wikipedia does not mean it is necessarily a good model to base a new article on. It is often better to compare with existing recognised Wikipedia Good Articles. You can find a list of Good Articles about companies at Wikipedia:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Businesses & organizations. A Draft wouldn't need to be as long or detailed as these to be accepted, but they can still be good examples of how to structure and reference it.
To me, the tone of your Draft does not look very problematic. Concern may have been raised by five of your six references being hosted by Saigon Asset Management itself, even though they originate elsewhere. Also, often, interviews are not considered to be the most useful type of sources in proving notability, because they essentially consist of what the company says about itself, not what the independent reliable sources say about them.
Pinging @Onel5969: in case this is of interest. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:18, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Leighann.chow, and thanks for the ping Arthur goes shopping. I already posted a response to your question on my talk page, but I'll put it here as well, in case you missed it there. Articles need to tell us about the subject, not attempt to sell it to us. Individual fund information, talking about what the company is seeking to do, and using terms like "expertise", make the article seem promotional. Granted, I've seen more egregious examples of promotion, but to me this still sounded promotional. Arthur hits the nail on the head regarding using other articles in comparison (and I'm going to steal his explanation from now on when asked that question in the future). I hope this helps. Onel5969 (talk) 12:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thank you for your feedback. I will rewrite the article to sound less promotional and use different references that are not connected to the site. I only did this because the links are no longer active online, is there something else I can do in this situation? I've see many other fund managers list their funds to describe what they do however I do note that you are saying that just because an article exists doesn't make it a good example. Before I heard back from either of you I had received some help from the online chat and was told that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekong_Capital is a good example of the other wiki listings that I referenced, particularly because it uses the references as citations. Thank you.

talk — Preceding undated comment added 02:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

06:45:28, 9 March 2015 review of submission by LouMycroft


Thank you for the opportunity to do this. I went to a workshop yesterday to learn how to use Wikipedia and I am very new to it all.

I have started to build this entry with notability in mind and on the advice of the workshop facilitators I've sought out books which reference the process. Two of them are by the process creator, but the others are not. It is a process, rather than a product you buy and I think I'm not getting that across. I am also wondering if I should be critiquing it a bit more? Or should I be telling the story of its creation? What I want from the page is that people who come across it can understand what it is and learn how to do it for themselves.

I appreciate why it's been knocked back, but I'm feeling a bit stuck. Can you help?

Thank you.

LouMycroft (talk) 06:45, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly true that the history of the concept would be a good thing to include in the Draft article. Your objective for the article is perhaps problematic... as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia should describe things, not teach people how to do things. Thus "whether you are..." is problematic wording and sounds promotional, because encyclopedia articles use the third person not the second. Finally, the Linda Aspey source is a problem because it is inherently promotional... its purpose is to sell courses and events based on this process or concept. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:54, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:32:43, 9 March 2015 review of submission by Larsa.Max


Hello editors

can you please tell me what made my article look like advertisement? it has independent sources that i couldn't control.

Thanks in advance


Larsa.Max (talk) 08:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Listing the ordinary partners is probably unnecessary, although that is not a big problem. "a team of investment professionals organized into specific investment areas and sectorial disciplines" sounds promotional and does not really convey any factual information. "works closely with owners-managers of portfolio companies to enhance operations and accelerate growth" sounds rather promotional given that it's not cited to an independent source. "developed a proficiency in accelerating growth and enhancing the value of their investee companies" likewise. Finally, large parts of the "History" section are apparently sourced entirely to press releases. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:54:43, 9 March 2015 review of submission by Aruppillai

Which part of the article lack reference? Aruppillai (talk) 08:54, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:29:23, 9 March 2015 review of submission by LegalResourcesFoundation

Hi there, thanks very much Dodger67 for reading my text although it got declined. I am not quite sure why this is the case but I must apologize in advance as this is my first wikipedia article and I struggled a bit with the code to put in the only one reference. I am afraid there are no more sources to add in order to make the article more reliable as I already put in websites from our organization partners and an academical text which is accessable via internet and to be found in the reference section. Thanks a lot - LRF LegalResourcesFoundation (talk) 13:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about books and news or magazine articles? I have moved the draft to Draft:Legal Resources Foundation so that as soon as your username problem is solved you can continue working on it there. I have found quite a few news articles through Google. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:02, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:37:28, 9 March 2015 review of submission by EduardJanChlebek


How do I attach a photograph to my submission? EduardJanChlebek (talk) 16:37, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor EduardJanChlebek: Don't worry about adding a picture yet. Your page has been deleted because it was considered advertising. This suggests you are connected to or affiliated with what you were writing about. If that is the case, please read my guide for contributors with close connections before rewriting it. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:14:50, 9 March 2015 review of submission by Jakebob1963

I understand this page was rejected and I should ask why here??

Thanks! Jake Jakebob1963 (talk) 17:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Jakebob1963: Wikipedia is not a place for advertising. The most common way an article comes off as advertising is when it uses "evaluative phrases" without citing them to an outside source.
Some of these in your page are "uniquely-crafted", "robust", and "humble". These have to be cited to an outside source, and attributed (for example: XYZ Magazine called its sandwiches "uniquely-crafted".). A good way to find evaluative phrases is to ask yourself Would a person who hates the restaurant and someone who loves it agree on this? If not, then it's evaluative.
Also, Wikipedia pages shouldn't include comprehensive lists of products (in this case, menu items). You should talk about the ones that have received the most press coverage.
Those are my comments about advertising. After you've addressed them, you may want to go through the editing tutorial to learn about formatting. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:31:28, 9 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Hamptodm


The article for "Billy's Cult" was not accepted due to copyright information. I am seeking specifics so that I may correct these errors and re-submit the article.


Hamptodm (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Hamptodm: According to the Copyvio Detector, the plot is copied directly from Rotten Tomatoes. We can't accept material copied from outside sources (except for short quotations), because we don't have permission to use it. You can use Rotten Tomatoes or another site as a source of information, but you should summarize the plot in your own words. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:06:51, 9 March 2015 review of submission by ProfTimMau


ProfTimMau (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Hi - Why was my article declined? I want to know the detailed reason why, I know that I have cited multiple sources.

Hello ProfTimMau. Your draft article includes three sources, but they are not really about Mr. Wigdor, but about the cases for which he is being hired. Please note that words spoken by the subject himself aren't considered independent references, and outside of his own words there are only a couple of sentences about him in the references. The references need to be about him, not about the people he represents. For a lawyer to be the subject of a Wikipedia page, there needs to be either extensive coverage about him in published sources, such as Louis Bloomfield and/or he needs to have received some kind of distinction above that of an average lawyer, such as Marlys Edwardh. Perhaps there are news reports about the actual trials, where Mr. Wignor's actions, rather than future intentions, were reported by journalists.—Anne Delong (talk) 21:52, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 10

Snehahurrain (talk) 02:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion

For the last few days I am working on a Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Farman_Nawaz It was declined twice. The fact is that I have prepared this page keeping in few another Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_Abbasi. You will not believe but it is a fact that the references of Ansar Abasi page are irrelevant. It is requested that kindly check the comments of admins on my page and then apply the same rules on Ansar abbasi page. you will find that my page is more authentic than Ansar Abassi page. It is not a challenge but a request for comparison. I hope that my request will be taken as positive. I have brought major changes in my page and again it is resubmitted.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snehahurrain (talk • contribs) 02:42, 10 March 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

@Snehahurrain: We're not concerned with whether a page is "authentic", we're concerned with whether the subject meets Wikipedia's definition of notability. You need so show that there is significant coverage of Farman Nawaz himself, not just coverage of his blog posts and op-eds, and you need to back up all biographical data with citations to reliable sources. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 02:55:42, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Takingnotes21


for school I am a college student.


Takingnotes21 (talk) 02:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Takingnotes21: What is your question exactly? You submitted an article that just said "I go to school so I need drop box" and it was rejected for inclusion in Wikipedia because it was clearly not an encyclopedia article. If you want a draft space to work in, you can use User:Takingnotes21/sandbox, but don't click the blue "submit for review" button unless you have an actual article that you want to submit. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:17:37, 10 March 2015 review of submission by MarkfromPoole


This is my first contribution to Wikipedia. My article has been rejected several times for reliability reasons. In conversation with one reviewer, Graeme Bartlett, he said that the sources were ok from a verification perspective but not a notability one. I have added links to other Wikipedia pages that refer to Poole People to establish justification for listing. I do not really know where to go now. MarkfromPoole (talk) 08:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC) MarkfromPoole (talk) 08:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkfromPoole: I only see one independent source in that article. You typically need several examples of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article to show notability (and Wikipedia articles aren't considered "reliable sources" since anyone can edit them). If there are good sources in the other Wikipedia pages you could add those to your article, but if not and no other good sources exist, it may simply be too soon for a Poole People article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:02:45, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by MJeznach


Hi, I wanted to create a page on Wikipedia about Oxford Biodynamics. It is not meant to be advertising, but a source of information about the Company type of page. I'm not sure where I went wrong as it is my first ever attempt of creating a Wiki page. I would really appreciate your help.

MJeznach (talk) 11:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MJeznach: Your article was directly copied and pasted from the Oxford Biodynamics website. For copyright reasons, Wikipedia requires that you write articles using your own words. Do not copy and paste (or closely paraphrase) any other website.
I can't see your article since it was deleted, but if you rewrite it keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a business directory. If there isn't significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article that you can cite, then it may be too soon for a Wikipedia article about Oxford Biodynamics. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:12:57, 10 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by ZRay22


Hi there :)

My submission Conscience: Taxes for Peace not War was rejected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Conscience:_Taxes_for_Peace_not_War

Previous users Tokyogirl79 and Kikichugirl had similar concerns and I thought I dealt with her concerns (the Recent Activity section).

Could you please point out exactly, which parts of the article need to be changed to be accepted? :)

Your help would be much appreciated :)

Thank you

ZRay22 (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ZRay22 (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:34:54, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Bihngo


Bihngo (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why my Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kundan_Srivastava has been declined many times. I written about Kundan Srivastava an Indian Author and Activist. I am feeling very sad to know wikipedia behavior against article of Kundan Srivastava. Kundan is youngest Social Activist and notable Author from India. Please go through his official facebook page and details: https://www.facebook.com/founderkundansrivastava

13:54:02, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Philoschelle


I would like to request assistance in creating my page in a way that is considered neutral to the editors of Wikipedia. I have edited it many times, submitting twice. Both times it has been rejected for being advertising. As this is my first submission, I need help! Are there reviewers or editors out there that could help me get this article published? Thanks.Philoschelle (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC) Philoschelle (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:30:40, 10 March 2015 review of submission by DmitryPopovRU


Hello! I really need someones help with this article. It was recently declined due to lack of notability. I do not believe this is true, have a look at the reliable sources. I need someones help with this! I also have a G4 issue I have to deal with too.

Thank You! --DmitryPopovRU (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DmitryPopovRU (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, DmitryPopovRU. I took a look at your draft and I removed a few references that were to unreliable sources such as Youtube and IMDb. The first thing to do is to remove some of the references to libraries that hold the book. According to Worldcat, the book is in ten libraries, plus the two archival copies in the National library. One reference, such as THIS ONE, tells all of this, and separate references for each copy of the book just makes it seem as though there are no real useful references available. Published book reviews are what's needed to show that he's a notable author. Announcements of upcoming events don't confer notability - instead, news reports after the event are needed. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks heaps for your help and response. A clear source can be found here which talks about his book - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11310534 I will work on developing the article and see when it can be submitted again. Like I have said before, I think it is worded incorrectly. I'm not sure.

--DmitryPopovRU (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:02:58, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Takingnotes21


Takingnotes21 (talk) 20:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the message I've left on your draft. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:09:00, 10 March 2015 review of submission by MadameAnglaise

Hi - this is a general question. A page has been declined and I can now see why as I had pasted copy (and cited it and thought that would be okay) from a webpage. I'm very happy to re-edit this to ensure it's acceptable... but where will my draft have been moved to? I do have a copy of it saved, but is there an area where I will find it to make the edit? Sorry - quite a simple question and hopefully a simple answer! Thanks, Clare

MadameAnglaise (talk) 20:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor MadameAnglaise: Your draft is at User:MadameAnglaise/sandbox. You can find a list of pages you've edited by clicking the "Contributions" link in the upper-right corner. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:16:10, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Reefswaggie


Reefswaggie (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:16:10, 10 March 2015 review of submission by Reefswaggie

Draft:R.T. Skip Wallen


I hope I have done this correctly... anyway, I have hacked and cut and reduced the article in order to make it less encyclopedic ... I think I am heading in the right direction but I need some feedback please because it is my first article. I think the first paragraph is ok the way it is. I added two new headings, and simplified a lot of the material. I haven't fixed up the references yet. I want to get the text right first.

Thanks for your help. Reefswaggie (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 11

10:30:20, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Neeraj Mehta123


Neeraj Mehta123 (talk) 10:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Neeraj Mehta123: It appears that you are writing an article about yourself. This is difficult because you have written what you would like your potential customers to know about you, so naturally the draft is more of an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. Also, most of the references you have included are of you talking about your work or other subjects, when what's needed is journalists or other authors writing about you.—Anne Delong (talk) 13:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:17:02, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Naamam118


Hi, I would like assistance with uploading a company logo to an existing company page. Could you let me know how to add the image? The page is an existing page and the logo uploaded - but it appears as a link on th epage, rather than an image. How can it be displayed as an image? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woobi

Many thanks! Naamam118 (talk) 11:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Naamam118: The code is [[File:Name of file.png|thumb|Caption here]] (notice that's "thumb" and not "thumbnail"). There are other options, which you can learn about in the picture tutorial. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:41:41, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Roni1965

I need help or guidance how to improve the article. This is the note I have received: This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summaries information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner. Who can assist me? Roni1965 (talk) 11:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Roni1965: You have submitted a well-written essay, which may make a good tribute to this man in a magazine or book, but unfortunately much of the content is not suitable for an encyclopedia article, which doesn't contain opinions, feelings, hopes, speculation, etc., but only bare facts which are summarized from published documents. The references should be to the published works of journalists, science or medical writers, or other authors, who are independent of the subject, and not to material written by Michael Silberman or his friends and family. For example, text such as "This belief penetrated Silbermann's DNA at an early age and has remained with him ever since." is extremely subjective . Encyclopedia articles summarize not what a person and those who are close to him want to say about him, but what independent sources have written. Also, the long lists of everything he's every done makes the latter part read like a resumé, and should be written much more briefly (ie, summarized), in form such as "Dr. Silberman spoke at many conferences and symposia around the world, including (mention two or three of the better known ones)".
By the time you have made these changes, perhaps your article will no longer be three times as long as the ones for Alfred Nobel and Frederick Banting, two rather famous scientists.—Anne Delong (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:02:44, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Adweewfwf

I request to have help by experienced editors to help edit the referencing of this new article page. It is a new football tournament which cannot have any more references than I have put down. I hope someone can put in the the extra few references it requires as the tournament will start in 3 days in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. Only references i can find is on the Afghan Premier Leagye website and I have referenced two url's from that website.

Adweewfwf (talk) 13:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Adweewfwf. Wikipedia only has articles about well-known topics that have been written about extensively by journalists or in this case sportswriters in newspapers, magazines, etc. It's not a place to announce upcoming events. If this is a new tournament that hasn't happened yet, it may be too soon for an encyclopedia article about it. Perhaps after the tournament there will be press coverage of it in sports sections of newspapers.—Anne Delong (talk) 14:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:22:37, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Avicennia marina


Hi there,

This is my first wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Evidence-based_conservation) and I am trying hard to improve it to meet wikipedia's policies. I am copy pasting the conservation I had with the editor who rejected my article.

"Onel5969: This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner."

Me: I am not sure what the editor means by opinion here or original research. Substantial references have been provided. It would be great to learn as to how I can improve the article. Avicennia marina (talk) 15:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

"Onel5969: Hi Avicennia marina - Even though there are references there are also conclusions drawn, which is original research (e.g. "Simply put, seeing what works and what doesn't work should be the basis of environmental conservation efforts.") That statement also is worded in an informal tone. Onel5969 (talk) 01:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Me: Hi Onel5969 - That sentence was added by a wikipedia editor (Bfpage). I have removed it in the current version. Could you please suggest any other edits that I could make to improve the article? This is my first wiki article so any suggestions would be useful.


Could someone please help me by suggesting specifically which parts of the article I need to edit now?

Thanks very much!


Avicennia marina (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:35:00, 11 March 2015 review of submission by 173.56.63.145

My first and second editor both told me that the sources do not focus exclusively on the subject in question. However, as an entrepreneur, all of the most easily verifiable sources (Bloomberg, Crain's, etc.) are business-focused publications that are obviously going to focus on her company. Is there a way around this? Every assertion is cited, I'm sort of at a loss as to how this entry can be attributed any further. I also can't tell if I have the image uploaded in the right place, some guidance on that front would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks! 173.56.63.145 (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:53:10, 11 March 2015 review of submission by Lgibos


I am unsure as to how to get our school's picture to be displayed. The one I want to display is from Google Maps. Will it automatically populate based on our address? Also is the mission statement too advertise-y to be included.

Lgibos (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 12

02:49:26, 12 March 2015 review of submission by Charlieshen0106

Hello there, I am wondering how can I make my articles to be accepted since I already used independent sources and neutral contents, just like many other corporate wikipages. For example, ECCO, shoe maker like Butterfly Twists, has been accepted and showed in wikipedia but with much less sources and all the sources are links of its own website and annual reports. Please advice. Thank you very much! Charlieshen0106 (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 04:08:31, 12 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 24.9.139.246


My article weas rejected and I have no idea why! Steven Paul Fisher 24.9.139.246 (talk) 04:08, 12 March 2015 (UTC) 24.9.139.246 (talk) 04:08, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

05:44:09, 12 March 2015 review of submission by Deepa Topiwala


I am unable to provide notable references because I have physical archives of newspapers which show the credibility of the subject. These archives don't have a soft copy online as they were published much before the news industry went digital...

Kindly guide on how to include these news items to establish the notability of the subject

Deepa Topiwala (talk) 05:44, 12 March 2015 (UTC) Deepa Topiwala (talk) 05:44, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

07:02:58, 12 March 2015 review of submission by Elilat54


last editor lost my list of references some how, why is that ?. Now It won't let me put them back in order as a numbered list. simply says "" jump to "" because its in Sanbox. I had deleted my earlier work, and all that what I left went missing over night as well. It's becoming really annoying. I am wondering if all this old MS DOS data entry is really worth the effort writing in wiki  ???? .

ebliss54 07:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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