Talk:Bigfoot

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2014

Please change: "Frame 352 from 1967 Patterson–Gimlin film, alleged by Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin to show a Bigfoot, was a man in a gorilla suit".

Regardless of the citation the caption makes a fact assertion: That the photo and thus the Patterson-Gimlin footage depicts a "man in a gorilla suit". The citation is NOT A PROVEN FACT and the citation does not prove that claim. Go ahead and cite - but remove the assertion that the phot is that of "...a man in a gorilla suit". I am a Board Certified Physician and, in my professional opinion that photo could not possibly be that of "a man in a gorilla suit" and is of an as of yet unidentified North American Great Ape which walks upright.

Please remove the caption ASAP. Cowboycorvette (talk) 01:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC)cowboycorvette

First: Yes, there are plenty of people out there willing to fake bigfoot sightings and such. But there are also Tens Of Thousands of reports by respectable people, police, park rangers, politicians (Teddy Roosevelt encountered one) who are NOT kooks.

This is an OPINION. And a hotly contested one. No proof has ever been submitted that falsifies this film. The only detractors have OPINIONS that it is an ape suite. In Fact, numerous accredited scientists, Human Physiologists specializing in human anatomy, arm length to leg and general body ratios, and foot anatomy and physiology have conducted detailed studies on this film and fond that the physiology of the individual in the film is well outside human norms. The stride length and leg ratios are also well outside of the human norm.

Close examinations of the film show individual muscle contractions and eyebrow movements. Special effects artists have stated that to create a comparable suit today would cost at least They have also agreed that the technology to create this sort of special effects "Ape Suit" would be impossible in 1967 as the materials and fabrics did not yet exist and even if they had, would have been impossible for Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin to afford as they had to borrow money just to rent the camera and buy film. Also, castings of footprints taken in the area at the time of the sighting show a mid-tarsal break in the feet. Mid-tarsal breaks have been found in casts taken in north eastern Eurasia of what is sometimes called the abominable snowman, more than 70 years ago. These casts match up with the foot anatomy of recovered fossils of homo meganthropus heidelbergensis. Homo Heidelbergensis is the ancestor of anatomically modern humans, Neandertals and Denisovans. Recovered fossils of the sub species Meganthropus, show that males of that sub species would have been in the 8-9 foot range and weighed as much as 500 pounds. Many other castings of feet show exactly what you would expect of a hominid that spends its entire life walking barefoot on sharp rocks and various surfaces, namely broken and dislocated toes and foot bones that healed badly. Also Many castings show clear friction ridges (fingerprints on the feet) that do not match up with either humans or apes but are somewhere in between. And again are on very old castings, made by people who would have no idea what friction ridges were or how to fake them (which is nearly impossible without modern 3d printers).

They were probably covered in hair and in all ways would be a perfect match for the descriptions of bigfoot/yeti/sasquatch/abominable snowman/etc... This Wikipedia page holds all the referencing evidence necessary to refute the statement that it was a man in an ape suite.

It is unlike Wikipedia to allow OPINIONS to be presented as a blanket statement of fact.

Davidearlagoura (talk) 04:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

 Not done There is a cited source for "Bob Heironimus, an acquaintance of Patterson's, said that he had worn an ape costume for the making of the film". - which goes on to say "some skeptics as well as die-hard monster enthusiasts refused to believe him." - Arjayay (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

A lot of people came forward and said they were the man in the ape suit Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2014

2slick4u (talk) 15:19, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:24, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Alaskan theory bassed on local books and local friends

There is a book by Alaskans from before statehood, in it is a story of a man, who near Juneau, fell into a crevice in a glacier. He was able to walk out of it following runoff trails. On his way out he saw a Bigfoot walking the other way through the ice.

A family member also spotted one near where I grew up, that also at a glacier. Notice they seem to always be near the glact? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.101.108 (talk) 03:05, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually they're always near mountainous areas, including glaciers Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 22:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps more interestingly, they always seem to appear in places where it is impossible to leave compelling forensic evidence of their existence behind. 211.31.63.48 (talk) 09:46, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Bigfoot not just in USA

Bigfoot is a broad term including all unknown hominid species including Orang Pendek (Indonesia), Yowie (Australia), Wildman (Vietnam), Yeti (Nepal/China/India/Bhutan), Almas (Azerbaijan/Georgia/Armenia/Russia) Sasquatch (U.S./Canada)... Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 22:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)