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There is "traditional" cheerleading as in a following of it's origins. Cheerleading and pleasing the crowds at an event as entertainment during a lull. And there is competitive cheerleading which is a series of championships to find the most skilled squads and to promote the technical skills of cheerleading, which is itself the event. The two are very different. Would anyone have any objections to this? Ifc-international (talk) 05:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC) Yes.155blue (talk) 23:54, 12 March 2013 (UTC)155blue
GET INFO. ON CHEER COMPANIES LIKE C.O.A. [CHEERLEADERS OF AMERICA] OR ECA? There is no mention of Van Power, former NCA Executive who brought the first cheerleading championships to Walt Disney World's Milk House and put the first championship on TV.
There should also be a link to the UK page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleading_in_the_United_Kingdom There is no reference as to how Randy Neil and the International Cheerleading Foundation took cheerleading abroad.
1 World Bermuda is an international amateur sporting event held annually in Hamilton, Bermuda. Based on the summer Olympics, 1 World Bermuda is the only true multi- sports event that includes cheerleading as an official sport and officially recognizes cheerleaders as athletes. www.1worldbermuda.com
The text states, “As of 2012, all-star cheerleading as sanctioned by the USASF involves a squad of 6–36 females and/or males”. This is inaccurate and as of 2018, should be 5-38 females and/or males. The text adds summaries of various competitions. The focus on certain ones mentioned does not make sense. Yet, the most important competition for lower level teams (The Summit, created in 2013) is not mentioned at all. (https://www.varsity.com/all-star/competitions/end-of-season-events/the-summit/) Information about cheer related injuries needs to be updated. The sport has grown rapidly and the activities performed are drastically different than what they used to be. Studies from 2008 aren't really indicative of today's sport. [User: amanda363] I will start with saying that I am making suggestions based on my collective knowledge and experience from the sport in Canada. "Cheerleading in Canada" requires a full overhaul or a separate article all together. I am Canadian and have been involved in the sport since 2006, and involved in governance for the past 5 years. The information in this section is outdated. Although it has accurate information, it is no longer a proper reflection of Cheerleading in Canada. I would gladly work on this with more time to research and cite proper sources if the Wiki Community agrees that it's needed. I will include some notes below to correct some inaccuracies or for disambiguation. In the "Competition in Canada" section: Cheer Canada (https://cheercanada.ca) is the National Sport Organization for cheerleading. The body has not received its amateur athletics status nationally, but is working towards achieving this in 2021. In Canada, there are 9 Provincial Territorial Sport Organizations (PTSO) [2]: Alberta Cheerleading Association(https://albertacheerleading.ca), British Columbia Cheerleading Association(https://bccheerleading.ca), Ontario Cheer Federation (http://www.ocfcheer.com), Cheer Manitoba (https://www.cheermanitoba.ca), Cheer New Brunswick (https://www.cheernewbrunswick.com), Newfoundland and Labrador Cheerleading Athletics (https://www.facebook.com/CheerNL), Cheer Nova Scotia (https://www.cheerns.com), Fédération de cheerleading du Québec (http://www.cheerleadingquebec.com), and Saskatchewan Cheerleading Association (https://sca.ca). Cheerleading has been recognized in each of these provinces and receives government funding from their respective provincial government branch (information can be found on each of their websites). The other organizations listed are privately owned for-profit companies that host competitions across Canada (event producers), some no longer exist or have become a Varsity brand, and there are many more that aren't included. There are also way more than 40 clubs in Canada, it is difficult to have an accurate edit for this due to covid-19 member numbers are inaccurate and there is no place where this stat is posted nationally due to the governance structure. In the "Canadians on the Worlds Stage" section: club teams compete at the IASF World Championships. In 2013, due to the ICU bylaws, Canada was no longer eligible to compete in the Elite division (I would need to dig for an article, but it's common knowledge in the community) so Canada was only allowed to field teams in the Premier Division. There is a rule (ICU) that teams that demonstrate a certain level of success in the Elite division must move into Premier. Team Canada Cheerleading also has Cheer Abilities (Para Cheer), Performance Cheer teams and Junior Team Canada teams, these teams are chosen through video submission as a team (verses as individual athletes). [3] [4] [5]. The International Cheer Union has received full recognition from the International Olympic Committee as the International Federation for cheerleading at the 138th IOC Session in Tokyo (https://cheerunion.org.ismmedia.com/ISM3/std-content/repos/Top/olympics/docs/ICU_IOC_Full-Recognition.pdf). For disambiguation, we should consider the article should remove misleading information about specific for-profit companies and divisions mentioned so that readers can be directed to their governing bodies to find out which events they could/should attend. The section for "Competition and Companies" is extremely biased towards Varsity and their respective brands and events. I think that reference to Varsity and its brands should be removed. I don't think that this section adds value to defining Cheerleading, and in my opinion it merely serves as marketing for those companies. I also think that the Universal Cheerleading Association (a Varsity Brand) in the "Associations, federations, and organizations" section should be removed. This is section should be reserved for information for official bodies that govern the sport, not for-profit companies and divisions of the same company. [User: Wikipang94] Priority 3
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"Intense physical activity" - edit suggestion?
Reading this talk page, I think I can see why the lead describes cheerleading as an "intense physical activity". It seems to be because of controversy regarding the term "sport".
However, when I came to the article cold to learn more about cheerleading, it seemed like a really odd description. For starters it's very vague. "Intense physical activity" covers everything from sex to punching a door to having a heart attack.
Also, my first impression (reassessed now I've read the talk page!) was that it was non-POV and almost a bit defensive. I wondered if an editor had been annoyed by people belittling cheerleading and wanted to really drive home how "intense" and physically challenging it was.
Possibly this has been considered before, but can I suggest the more specific phrase "athletic discipline"? I've seen reliable sources (including the BBC) refer to cheerleading as an athletic discipline, so it could certainly be cited. An athletic discipline is by definition intensely physical, and the phrase seems much more enlightening and specific. Señor Service (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Definition
The definition is totally inadequate. The statement that "Cheerleading ranges from yelling to intense physical activity for sports team motivation, audience entertainment or competition based upon organized routines" may be partly correct to describe activities of a cheerleader, but it does not say what cheerleading is. I know little of the activity, but wouldn't it be more accurate to describe it as a "Organised supporters of a sports team, primarily young women, undertaking choreographed routines to entertain or motivate an audience".Royalcourtier (talk) 06:02, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Women joining cheerleading at what date?
The "History of Cheerleading" source from iSport.com says its 1923, but we also got a poster with what looks like a female cheerleader from 1906. It would thus be nice if someone more knowledgeable could figure out which one is correct. Belorn (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
The postcard shows a woman attending a game in team colors; it does not clearly show a "cheerleader." The postcard does not support the change you suggest.--Svaihingen (talk) 05:02, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Female cheerleading has long been accused by certain feminists as being sexist and degrading. The article probably should have a section discussing the accusation that cheerleading is by it’’s very nature sexists and degrading. This accusation has been levied against profession sports cheerleaders particularly (especially NFL cheerleaders) .There is also a different point of view held by some feminists and others that female cheerleading is not inherently sexists or degrading. Both of these points of view probably should be included in the article. Here are some article describing the controversy: http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/24/cheerleading-schools-sexist-girls-sport http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/25/sport/nfl-cheerleaders-minnesota-vikings-mvc/ http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/05/nfl-cheerleader-lawsuits-sexism http://thesagonline.com/2012/01/cheerleading-reflects-a-sexist-culture/
If no one has a good reason not to include the controversy in this article then I would be willing to try and write up at least a short section not he issue of cheerleading and sexism/degradation. --74.95.207.205 (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Cheerleading and sexism
Female cheerleading has long been accused by certain feminists as being sexist and degrading. The article probably should have a section discussing the accusation that cheerleading is often sexist and degrading. This accusation has been levied against profession sports cheerleaders particularly (especially NFL cheerleaders) .There is also a different point of view held by some feminists and others that female cheerleading is not inherently sexists or degrading. Both of these points of view probably should be included in the article. Here are some article describing the controversy:
The Guardian - Is cheerleading in schools sexist?
CNN - NFL cheerleaders: Gratuitous sexism or all-American fun?
The Sagamore Online - Cheerleading Reflects a Sexists Culture
If no one has a good reason not to include the controversy in this article then I would be willing to try and write up at least a short section not he issue of cheerleading and sexism/degradation. --74.95.207.205 (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC) High School cheerleading is the best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.4.31.35 (talk) 19:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- The first link is good. The people quoted are professionals in education, the article comes from a reliable source, and it shows arguments that aren't from emotion. I like your second article also. 3 appears factual at face value but I've never really considered motherjones an objective source personally, so it might not be received well. 4th is a plain opinion piece (and an anonymous one too). I'd prefer more sources like the first 2 here than the latter 2, but I'd say go for it if you ever come back (or someone else wants to take this on). Perhaps find the stuff the motherjones article mentions at more credible news sites? --Padenton (talk) 04:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Student user requesting access to edit
I am a undergrad student at the University of California, Santa Barbara learning to contribute to wikipedia. Currently we are editing Wikipedia articles to improve them as part of a project. I have gathered credible sources and content to contribute to this article. I specifically want to improve the history section, including information about cheerleading before it became an organized activity and add information about cheerleading being affected by World War I and World War II. I also want to include citations for the youth cheerleading section. Along with that I'd like to add more content to professional cheerleading and include how it has contributed to a changing view of cheer, why they were brought to professional sporting events in the first place, and including information about pursuing pro cheer as a career. I noticed NCA (National Cheerleaders Association) and UCA (Universal Cheerleading Association) were included but USA (United Spirit Association) which is also a Varsity Brand organization was not, so I would like to include that. Finally, the Popular Culture section says that there are no citations and I would like to help improve its credibility by finding sources for it.
Cheerstar13 (talk) 20:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Cheerstar13, welcome to Wikipedia. Since the article is semi-protected you have two options. 1) Wait until you're autoconfirmed (make 10 edits, wait 4 days). 2) Detail what changes you want to make on the talk page and someone will respond. If you have any questions please let us know. --NeilN talk to me 21:05, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Actually your account is more than four days old so make about five more edits and then you should be able to edit this article. --NeilN talk to me 21:07, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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