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Bob Ross-inspired character in The Boondocks
In episode 12 of the first season of the TV comedy series The Boondocks, a Bob Ross-like character makes a prominent appearance in order to instruct Riley on a more effective way to channel his artistic talents. Being that The Boondocks is well known and popular, I move to include this detail in the "In popular culture" section of this article. The episode originally aired on 19 February 2006 on Cartoon Network. –– amanisdude (talk) 15:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think there should be an addition to the page about how he has gained a cult following. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JanderVK (talk • contribs) 15:18, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- You are welcome to make the addition if you have a reliable source saying that he does in fact have such a following. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 15:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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In Popular Culture
Bob Ross was parodied in "Fifteen Minutes of Shame", a Family Guy Episode, in which he threatens to cut viewers who dare tell anyone where he has painted a secret bush. Radish bliss (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: "In popular culture" sections should only contain notable instances of the subject being mentioned and their significance on pop culture as a whole, and not simply be an exhaustive list. This does not add to it. In addition, you have not cited a reliable source that can be used to verify this. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 16:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Question: In that case, why was `The Boondocks` added as a notable instance? Family Guy is also, if not more so, popular than The Boondocks. We're talking about Bob Ross, so, I highly doubt this list will contain more than 5 items on it before it is exhausted. Your reasoning is not consistent with what has already been included. Swivelgames (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sources: Wikia's Quotes Section (featuring Bob Ross' parody first) [1], YouTube Video featuring Bob Ross' parody [2], Ahsan Haque's Review (IGN) ("[who rated] the episode a 9.9/10, [and] called the episode an 'instant classic' and 'one of the funniest and most creatively constructed episodes of Family Guy'", and also noted the Bob Ross parody) [3], TV Rage's Summary (apparently TVRage is not a valid source) Swivelgames (talk) 17:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Boondocks bit was removed as well, for the same reason. You're welcome to re-add both if you want as long as they're sourced, but I'd recommend you read this essay first. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 17:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the consistency. Swivelgames (talk) 17:56, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Boondocks bit was removed as well, for the same reason. You're welcome to re-add both if you want as long as they're sourced, but I'd recommend you read this essay first. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 17:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sources: Wikia's Quotes Section (featuring Bob Ross' parody first) [1], YouTube Video featuring Bob Ross' parody [2], Ahsan Haque's Review (IGN) ("[who rated] the episode a 9.9/10, [and] called the episode an 'instant classic' and 'one of the funniest and most creatively constructed episodes of Family Guy'", and also noted the Bob Ross parody) [3], TV Rage's Summary (apparently TVRage is not a valid source) Swivelgames (talk) 17:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- I did want to note, however (as I was not necessarily petitioning for the addition of the Family Guy reference previously, but more of a central argument for some consistency), the Family Guy reference does have some weight to it. For future reference or argument, the IPC essay says that in order for a pop-culture reference to be notable it has to pass at least one of the questions, preferably more. That being said, Family Guy's Bob Ross reference certainly passed Question 2, most notably with the IGN review but also the large amount of video uploads on to YouTube containing the reference. Question 1 would be impossible, as the subject passed in '95, and Question 3 is vague on what exactly a "real-world event" actually is. In particular, I wanted to point out that the article states that a pop-culture reference does not need to fulfill all of the outlined questions. They are not strict requirements, but simply "AND/ORs". Thanks for the evaluation, Elektrik. --Swivelgames (talk) 18:13, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- In addition, depending on how you would like to skew it, the massive amount of uploads that occur on YouTube because of the reference could possibly be noteworthy, as it is not simply the existence of the reference, but the notability and popularity of the reference that has spurred the uploads. I could think of other more popular references to other more popular people or items that indeed have incurred more popularity and uploads on YouTube, but given the popularity of Bob Ross, the amount of uploads containing the Family Guy reference is indeed notable. But again, this argument may be a stretch. Swivelgames (talk) 18:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Boondock's reference may still not cut it, though, as the popularity of the reference is more important than the popularity of the show, video, or work. Boondock's and Family Guy's popularity are not necessarily an argument, but the popularity and response to Family Guy's reference could indeed be noteworthy, especially when relative to the number of Bob Ross references in pop culture and the popularity of all other pop-culture references to Bob Ross. Google's reference is, of course, undoubtedly popular. But Google's reference has, again, only fulfilled Question 2 of the notability requirements.Swivelgames (talk) 18:22, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
ASMR
Perhaps there should be added a mention of Bob Ross having lately become an icon of ASMR (aka brain orgasm) via YouTube. 80.61.230.65 (talk) 18:37, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Reference 4
Reference 4 does not contain the quote 'vowing "never to scream again."' This looks to have been inserted to prove an internet hoax that Bob Ross was an abusive Drill Sergeant.
"The correct reference is #5. I'll change the annotation. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 21:54, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
98.227.11.252 (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2014 (UTC)My name is James Needham. I was the General Manager of WIPB when we first contracted with Bob Ross to do the Joy of Painting Series #2 in 1983. Series #1 was initially produced at a station outside Washington, DC in Virginia, but later post-produced by WIPB and uplinked to satellite for the Joy of Painting Company, later Bob Ross Inc. Your information on the Joy of Painting is correct, and WIPB-TV, the PBS station licensed to Ball State University and still licensed to Ball State University in Muncie, IN was the originating station for the Joy of Painting for all of its PBS TV on-air series and productions. They were filmed in our studios at 246 Minnetrista Blvd. and later at the Ball Communications Building on the campus of Ball State University, both of which are located in Muncie, Indiana. If you need more information, contact me. bsu.needham@gmail.com98.227.11.252 (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Lack of detail
I dunno, this article lacks so much detail on how Bob Ross went from a minor US Airforce Sargent and bartender to learning how to paint via a German TV show about painting and then BOOM he gets a gig with PBS and finds national fame?--173.60.51.236 (talk) 04:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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