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A C de la Rive article

Hello, I am the author of that article, and the first paragraph (or the intro) was, at one time, only the first sentence, and had nothing about him being notable, which had to be added over Sulfurboy denying the article, without reading it, or evidently checking AC de la Rive for notoriety, as the rest of the links did that throughout the rest of the article. I decided to show him both sides notable mentions, including the conspiracists and the scholarly authors. The Wikipedia article on Leo Taxil, who was AC de la Rive's publishing friend, only has one source cited, but was published. Plus, he was also a French author. When I asked Sulfurboy about Taxil and the Taxil Hoax, he knew nothing of it, but feels he is qualified to review an article that he knows nothing of? I also made sure the citations all show the page numbers of the books, citing the source, except one, since it's online version only shows a chapter per page. I will try to find it today, and get the direct page numbers, instead of using chap. 1.

AC de la Rive wrote three paragraphs in his book, Woman and child in Universal Freemasonry, about Albert Pike, the US Confederate General, lawyer, and judge, who has two statues in Washington DC. Those paragraphs were a fallacy, stating that Pike claimed that Adonay (God), and lucifer were one and the same, which came from the Taxil Hoax, and was later recanted. It caused a lot of the hatred toward Freemasonry worldwide, and many conspiracists and several church denominations still quote what he wrote, claiming it to be real. AC de la Rive is mentioned under Leo Taxil, the Taxil Hoax, anti-Masonry, Luciferian Doctrine, and Edith Starr Miller's pages, on Wikipedia, as I write this, and is tied to them. He also has his own article on the French Wikipedia website. If you notice, I did try to keep this article as neutral as possible, and actually shows AC de la Rive in a good light, since he recanted all he wrote that were fallacies.--Craxd1 (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of his influence in propagating the Lucifer-Masonry hoax, hence my comments he's likely notable. I've found plenty of coverage about him since posting my comments. I'll give the article another look today and probably accept it. Thank you, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 13:43, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. I will remove the notability portion if you want, as that really does not belong there, but it is up to the reviewers.--Craxd1 (talk) 13:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about that, as I'll be copy editing the whole thing. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again. I corrected the citation for the book, Is it True What They Say About Freemasonry, and found that the source I used, on Wikipedia, had the chapter wrong, and the one on the internet. This was all corrected, and the page numbers added. I would suggest removing the rest of the introduction, right after the 1st citation. Neither sides literature really needs to be shown for notoriety, only what is before the 1st citation.--Craxd1 (talk) 16:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest rephrasing it to explain the Masonry bit concisely for the introduction. After all, it's his main notability claim. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:47, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Give me a bit, and I'll do my best to modify that, and get in more concise.--Craxd1 (talk) 18:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I finished the Into, but still left the one portion I mentioned about who cited his works at the end of the intro, and will leave it up to you to remove that or not. Thanks for the help, it is appreciated.--Craxd1 (talk) 20:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I figured I better give you a heads up. The article was perfect as you placed it. Later, I was viewing the article on Chick track, and added a citation to Brent Morris book, Is It True What They Say About Freemasonry, and one to a website, in the section for critics. Both the book and website are critical of Chick. An editor, and you know the one, deleted them, and when I admitted I was a Freemason, he looked under my name for my contributions and edits, and tried to either edit out, or revert, any article I had contributed to or edited. When I reverted this article back to yours, which he had slashed, (Personal attack removed) he tagged it. You'll have to look at the talk. Anyhow, I am not against anyone editing it, as long as they're neutral, (Personal attack removed) he did the ones on the Taxil Hoax and the Luciferian Doctrine, which was libelous, stating plainly that Freemasons worshiped Lucifer. I had edited this page, making it not so. (Personal attack removed), and reverted it, which I had to revert back. All these were months old, and discussed in their talk pages, with no negative comments to the edits. The editor would have never known, if I hadn't been at the chick track article. Also, please see about having his tag removed.--Craxd1 (talk) 23:14, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Riebl

A solo album and his work with the Gondwana Choirs doesn't count as notability? - why does Chris Martin have a Wikipedia page and not just the Coldplay one - Felix Riebl fits into the same category — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hc94 (talkcontribs) 22:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Martin easily passes WP:GNG due to extensive coverage about him per se, regardless of his role in Coldplay. The references you've provided do not constitute extensive coverage about Riebl. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 02:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused what constitutes an 'independent' reference - what kind of reference is not an interview/press release/etc.? This is the only aspect of the Wikipedia notability guidelines which Felix Riebl does not comply with. Yet see Marcus Mumford as an example that most pages of musicians in bands don't either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hc94 (talkcontribs) 22:25, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:IRS and WP:IS. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:05, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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georgianera

Sources for the blog https://georgianera.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/mrs-bouverie-and-mrs-crewe-two-whig-hostesses-from-the-18th-century/ are given as www.historyofparliamentonline.org; The Gentleman’s Magazine, July-December, 1831, volume CI; Richard Brinsley Sheridan: A Life by Linda Kelly

MaxMLang (talk) 07:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is this might be a copyright violation. Please reword those parts which closely resemble the original text. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 17:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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reference update

Hello, is a list of new references added to Roland Bergmann page sufficient now? Regards, WikiSilv (talk) 18:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)WikiSilv[reply]

I'm afraid not. Please see WP:42 for more details on what we're looking for. As a rule of thumb, significant (wholly about the subject, not just mentions in passing) coverage in independent and reliable sources, such as newspapers or books, are considered good sources. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then I have none, which you (maybe) will consider as RS... and if such article exists, than it will be somewhere hidden and written in German, and if evidence of being on music scene for 30 year is not enough for english Wiki than just remove the page... As far as I know, an interview is not RS, and I found many Wiki pages, where interviews were the only source of information, considered as being independent RS... — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiSilv (talkcontribs) 19:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Medford knife And tool - m.k.t

Hello, regarding your comment, how can you write that this, is one source?

Reeder, David (January 1, 2015). "8 Bells and Medford’s challenge to his countrymen". RECOIL.

Jump up ^ Webb, Brandon; Doherty, Glen (15 September 2010). 21st Century Sniper: The Complete Guide. New York: Skyhorse Publishing Inc. p. 216–217. ISBN 978-1-61608-001-3. Retrieved 6 August 2015. Jump up ^ Lee, Lee (May 1, 2014). ""Made in America, by American veterans, Damn proudly"". A2Z Metalworker 20 (3): 38–39. ^ Jump up to: a b c Covert, Pat (2014). "Medford Knives: American-Made Blades". American Handgunner 24 (2): 72–73, 98. Retrieved 6 August 2015. Jump up ^ Šaponjić, Dragan (14 January 2014). "Različiti putevi - cilj isti Borbeni noževi Winkler, Medford i Pohl Force". Kalibar (207). Retrieved 6 August 2015. Jump up ^ "Medford TFF-1 Very Heavy Duty". MESSER MAGAZIN 6 (December - January): 19–20. Retrieved 6 August 2015. Jump up ^ Vuong, Patrick (2013). "Unusual Suspects – Paracord-Wrapped Knives". RECOIL (Source Interlink) 2 (8): 34–37. Jump up ^ Lang, Oliver. "EOD-Messer: Gred Medford EOD Knife". K-ISOM 2 (March-April): 84. Retrieved 6 August 2015. Jump up ^ Berry, Andrew (June 12, 2014). ""Medford Knife and Tool’s Limited Edition Tactical Machete 1"". Personal defense world. Retrieved 6 August 2015.


Webb, Brandon - well know writer, in this field: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Webb_(author) Covert, Pat - American Handgunner - one of the most respected US writers and magazines in the field MESSER MAGAZIN, K-ISOM, Kalibar - same...respected EU writers and magazines in the field....Eytankey (talk) 19:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]