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India and Pakistan

Here are some references to the black construct in India/Pakistan that I added: Pakistan:

  • William Ackah, Pan-Africanism (1999), books.google.com/books?isbn=1840143754, p. 98:"A fascinating insight the programme revealed was that in being rejected by Pakistan, these black Pakistanis sought to look for their identity elsewhere. Their search took them not automatically to Africa the place of their origins, but to the fashion and statements and music of michael Jackson."
  • National Institute of Folk and Traditional Heritage, Folk Heritage of Pakistan (1977), p. 78, books.google.com/books?id=TGZWAAAAMAAJ:"Most people outside Pakistan, Mr. Mufti explained, do not know that there are black Pakistanis and none was particularly delighted with the reception this group enjoyed."
  • The Herald, Volume 36, Issues 10-12, p. 113-114 (2005), books.google.com/books?id=_xwTAQAAMAAJ:"Others arrived when the Sultanate of Oman, having captured Zanzibar in eastern... Rather than discouraging prejudice, the authorities have abetted it by remaining silent on the existence of black Pakistanis...positions which reflects an unabating fear of black people by mainstream society...Sheedi's oral history of black Pakistanis which relies for the most part on anecdotal accounts...I proudly say that I'm Baloch. Because when someone from my community calls me a sheedi, they're actually calling me a 'nigger'. Sheedi also knows that the term is derogatory. But unlike Danish, he is determined to disregard racism and build a community instead. Although religion and musical spirituality unite the black community, Sheedi does not think that it's enough. For that reason, he is on a quest to create a physic space for the sheedis to claim as their own."

India:

  • Alice Albinia, Empires of the Indus (2010), books.google.com/books?isbn=0393063224, p.50:"it is possible that one of the effects of a hundred years of British rule was the decline in status of black people in India. This deterioration is evident in the way the word 'Sheedi' – which has no plain etymology in Arabic or any Indian language -was interpreted over the centuries..."
  • Ababu Minda Yimene, An African Indian Community in Hyderabad:Siddi Identity, Its Maintenance (2004), p. 211, books.google.com/books?isbn=3865372066: 'Mr. Hussein paints his face black and wears Siddi clothes during his performance so that no one knows that he is an Indian. The Siddi found his statements ludricious because they consider him as black as any Siddi..."

p. 170:"Popularly known as Siddis, these one time warriors represent Black Power in Hyderabad."

p.200:"The Siddi of Hyderabad are comfortable calling themselves Negroes and are addressed as such both in private and public..."

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Andajara120000 (talkcontribs) 04:31, 5 January 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

A lot of pictures

I was wondering: why is it that this article contains so much more pictures of black people, than "Asian people" has pictures of Asians (0 to be precise) and "White people" has of white people? --87.211.43.32 (talk) 16:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Probably because different articles are edited by different people, and accordingly may not be particularly consistent. The 'Asian people' article is something of a special case though, I suspect, in that the description 'Asian' is even less well-defined than 'White' or 'Black' are. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The mass of pictures make the article look amateurish. On White people, it was agreed that because it is a self-identity with different definitions around the world, no images unless for historical reasons. Here, we get pictures of random individuals who are of the African diaspora, rather than what their country calls "Black people", which in some cases such terminology is not officially used. '''tAD''' (talk) 01:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I rescind the last statement. White people now has random images of people of fair complexion around the world to illustrate the definition. '''tAD''' (talk) 01:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Light skin is on lighter human pigmentation. This page is on the concept worldwide, which varies widely both between and within global societies and depends significantly on context. These various social constructs have also morphed over time. In many areas around the world, such as Indonesia and West Africa, the concept has no currency at all. Soupforone (talk) 03:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Ridiculously huge section on the USA as per usual, despite its short history. 188.220.36.29 (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moving the page

I suggest that we move the page Black people to African-American people, just to be a little less racist. ~~