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USA Sports Festivals

USOC Festivals

The page is missing a ton of sports festivals that have happened within the United States. The USOC Sports Festivals were in the 80s. Teams of North, East, South and West competed in a domestic Olympics.

Many states have held and still hold Sports Festivals.

Keystone State Games in Pennsylvania
Empire State Games in New York
Prairie State Games in Illinois

Master and Senior Games

The US host a masters games and senior games too, right? Rauterkus (talk) 18:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Can an acceptable definition be written for Category:Sports festivals?

No definition was reached. This seems to have been rendered of less relevance by discussion elsewhere (Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016 June 22#Category:Sports festivals). (non-admin closure) Dionysodorus (talk) 20:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Is there a valid scope for Category:Sports festivals distinct from Category:Multi-sport events? – Fayenatic London 16:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A CFD discussion on Category:Sports festivals has been closed without consensus, suggesting an RFC to determine what should be included in the category; see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 29#Sports festivals.

I am raising this here as Sports festival redirects here. If there is no other meaning than Multi-sport event, then there is no justification for a separate category tree for sports festivals.

IMHO the category still lacks a workable definition; all attempts to suggest a definition at the CFD failed breached WP:OVERCATEGORIZATION – either WP:SHAREDNAME (if they say it is for events named "festival" by the organisers), or WP:SUBJECTIVECAT (all other suggestions including e.g. selected single-sport events & trade shows).

@Earflaps: @PanchoS: @Sillyfolkboy: @Marcocapelle: @Carlossuarez46: Pinging other contributors.

I have notified WT:SPORTS, WikiProject Festivals and WP:OR/N of this RfC. – Fayenatic London 16:32, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! My opinion is known, I guess - I recreated the Sports festival category last year. I did this out of frustration with multi-sport events categories being included in all the country festival cats, as it seemed very inaccurate (see Category:Festivals in Brazil as an example). Seems to me, while olympic events often overlap with festival events, not all sporting events are festivals, or even close - just competitions in many cases, sometimes even private. Making a smaller subcat for sports events that are explicitly festivals was the only solution I could think of - I think the sloppiness of my ad-hoc definition, though, confused things a lot. Earflaps (talk) 16:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To me the biggest problem (for which I don't have a solution) seems to be the lack of definition of a festival that can be used in this and similar contexts. It should be something pointing to festivities, but not literally because that would make it to a circular definition. The article Festival has a totally unrelated context so that's not really helpful. Further down the article does give a few examples similar to sports festivals, but not with any alternate definition. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we don't have a definition for the compound phrase "sports festival" that is sufficiently focused enough to have a stand-alone category. The term has been used as a synonym for multi-sport event (most notably by national sports festivals), a notation of a sports event involving public participation (e.g.) and has also been used to signify any large-scale professional single-sport event (though it is entirely unclear at what point something like a football tournament becomes a "sports festival"). There isn't a distinct or singular definition of "sports festival" that is usable (or useful) in the category area. SFB 21:11, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wracking my brain here. I've been obsessing over the festival pages for almost two years now, and still get confused on how to define things sometimes. A large gathering of people for a fun purpose is a pretty crappy definition for festival, and the event being recurring doesn't work as a defining feature either. But here's my question - if we keep the sports festival category small enough that it only includes topics explicitly called "festival" on the page (by founders or historians), does it really matter if our festival definition is in the wind? For example, I have trouble sometimes telling if Category:Comics conventions are considered festivals - they seem to have the same features. But before I ended up blurring things together or merging them, I decided to only count the comic conventions that are explicitly dubbed festivals in their press material (i.e. have 'fest' in their name) as festivals, resulting in a very very small Category:Comics festivals cat. Not ideal, but the only solution I could think of. Earflaps (talk) 01:59, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As already discussed at CFD, that approach is not acceptable because of WP:SHAREDNAME. – Fayenatic London 22:39, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes well, SHAREDNAME is very vaguely worded (intentionally I assume), and I disagree with the discussion's general interpretation of it, including yours. I fail to see, as I pointed out earlier, how 'festival' is a non-defining characteristic of an event called a festival. Clearly the organizers intended for it to have characteristics of a festival, if they choose the name. Seems obvious to me that SHAREDNAME exists to stop the creation of dumb categories like Category:Festivals that have Rocky Mountain in their name, or Category:Schools named Lincoln High, not broad cases like this, where the name signifies a particular type of event with a particular genre. Earflaps (talk) 02:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Multisport

The word "Multisport" is not hyphenated - never. Consider also that "multisport" falls into the same category of words as {multibusiness, multicar, multicity, multicomputer, multifaceted, multifamily, multilateral, multinational, multiplane, multiplex, multispecies, multistage, multistate, multischool, multitude, multiverse, and multiyear}. I do not see much purpose in making up hyphenations "ad litem" when there are families and patterns of words in the dictionary to follow. The prefix "anti" is also never hyphenated. There is no need for any hyphens in such words as "anticommunist". 47.215.211.16 (talk) 02:25, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]