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characters ranked by independence

I made a list by this process:

  • Write down the character who appears in the greatest number of strips (as of #2525; excluding guest strips).
  • Remove from consideration all strips with that character.
  • Repeat.

The result: Marten (1338), Faye (567), Marigold (137), Dora (105), Hannelore (50), Yelling Bird (40), Steve (30), Sven (27), Pintsize/Dale/May (20 each), Penelope (14), turkeys (9), Emily (8), Ellen/Natasha/Claire (4 each), Tai (3). —Tamfang (talk) 05:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I personally believe that inappropriately skews the results in favour of some newer characters. I think the article list should simply be the top 10 by number of appearances, with the possibility of consensus to include or exclude specific characters if needed (for example, I'm not sure that Steve needs to be included, but I definitely think that Dale and May should not be included). — Huntster (t @ c) 06:37, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's not a terribly accurate method. It also skews the numbers towards characters who do not appear with other characters. It's interesting numbers, but it's statistically irrelevant. Human.v2.0 (talk) 18:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not accurate or relevant for what purpose? That list may not measure what interests you most, but it measures something that interests me: the degree to which a character stands out of the shadows of other characters. Take Tai for example: each of her first eighty (80) appearances, over a span of more than three years, were with Marten, and her second strip without Marten was 35 weeks after her first. This says to me that Tai was a secondary character in Marten's story (and now Dora's). —Tamfang (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, "not accurate" is bad wording because it is accurate for the method, but it is irrelevant for the purposes of this article because the calculation of "descending rank of appearances independent of characters ranked higher" is irrelevant to anything other than random statistics. As far as relevance to the article, you might as well have sampled the color pallet and sorted the appearances based on the descending occurrence in regards to RGBC pixels. "Most people have pants, if they don't have pants most have skirts, if they don't have skirts then most have police chasing them." I find it interesting, personally, but at best this particular method is overly specialized and therefor irrelevant to common usage. Anywho, I was just stating that to clarify. Kudos on the work.Human.v2.0 (talk) 21:05, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Doing it again: 1594 Marten, 750 Faye, 206 Hannelore, 133 Marigold, 119 Dora, 57 May, 56 Clinton, 53 Yelling Bird, 34 Steve, 30 Brun, 28 Pintsize, 27 Sven, 19 Claire, 15 Momo, 14 Penelope, 13 turkeys, 11 Veronica, 9 Bubbles. —Tamfang (talk) 06:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another possibly interesting list: ranking characters by independence from any single other character.

character most frequent co-player
Yelling Bird Sweettits (16/40)
Marigold Hannelore (103/228)
Marten Faye (672/1338)
Cosette Steve (20/39)
Faye Marten (672/1238)
Dale May (25/46)
Hannelore Marten (303/539)
Clinton Hannelore (16/28)
Natasha Amir (18/30)
Sven Faye (97/159)
Momo Marigold (72/118)
Wil Penelope (27/42)
Winslow tie: Pintsize, Hannelore (39/60)
Samantha Dora (23/35)
Ellen Marten (41/62)
Dora Faye (620/907)
Emily Marten (35/50)
Angus Faye (114/160)
Penelope Dora (93/128)
Elliot Marten (19/25)
Pintsize Marten (221/280)
Padma Marten (39/49)
Raven Dora (123/153)
Steve Marten (153/187)
Tai Marten (158/193)
Claire Marten (81/93)
Amir Marten (28/30)
Veronica Marten (60/64)
May Dale (25/25)

—Tamfang (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tamfang, you know I love the tables and statistics you put together--they are always insightful and interesting--but I just don't see why these relational figures should have relevance to who appears in the article. I still think that a basic appearance count is what matters most. Heck, I'd suggest everyone except Marten, Dora and Faye (and maybe Pintsize) should be considered secondary...restricting to these three would tremendously simplify the list! — Huntster (t @ c) 23:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, Hannelore has now appeared in more than twice as many strips as Pintsize. —Tamfang (talk) 08:06, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Winslow

As of 2732, Emily has appeared more often than Winslow – and I wouldn't call Emily a major character. I suggest we drop Winslow's entry and mention him under Pintsize. —Tamfang (talk) 18:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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character count as of #3365

I've caught up again, and updated User:Tamfang/QC cast. Some changes! Emily has surpassed Dale; Veronica, Clinton, Bubbles and May are moving up fast. —Tamfang (talk) 08:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good list you've got there. I know it's obvious but I think we should really only include current characters in the list on this page. For instance, Raven and Penelope have been gone for forever, and Steve doesn't really show up anymore, so even though they're historically important, I think they should be removed. Angus was a major character for a while but is obviously gone now so he should be moved to the end of the list for the time being (or perhaps removed altogether). I also think that Emily, Clinton, and May should be added, since they've been around for a long while now. We'll see where the Bubbles storyline goes so I would leave that out for now. What does everyone think about this? — Elliot Winkler 05:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The article is generally listing way too many characters, I'd say. Trimming away a good amount of secondary characters seems like a good idea. We're not a fanwiki, after all ^_^; The synopsis is pretty nicely sized, so it's sad that the list of characters is so bloated. I don't know the webcomic well enough to say which can be removed, though... ~Mable (chat) 14:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm a bit obsessed with this comic so of course I naturally want to include as every detail as possible. But that's a fair point. I think it's fine to keep the character list there, but I don't think we need a full history of how that character came to be -- just who they are in the plot and that's it. I'm going to make that change and see how it turns out. — Elliot Winkler 02:52, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

redraws

Occasionally older strips were redrawn in a more recent drawing style.

Has he done that more than once? —Tamfang (talk) 06:15, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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