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Reftools

Hi PrimeHunter--I'm here following up on a query I posted (Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2016_December_12#Aaaaaaaaargh_reftoolbar), with answers provided by Lourdes. I couldn't follow up last month, but here I am, still with no "cite" button in whatever version of toolbar I have. I need, like really need, the autofill function (for ISBNs, doi, GBook URLs) and I don't know how to get it back. I don't know if reference was made to refToolPlus in the note about the thing that hadn't been looked at since 2011. Whatever you can do to help me will be most welcome; I don't understand any of this vector stuff anyway, so if you can fix something by plunging in there, be my guest; it's like an appendix, I'm sure I won't feel a thing. Thanks in advance... Drmies (talk) 23:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: I can look at it if you answer some questions. What is your browser? Have you tried to clear your entire cache? Does a cite button appear and work when you log out? What is your skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Is "Show edit toolbar (requires JavaScript)" enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing? Is "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" enabled? Do you see one of the toolbars at Help:Edit toolbar except a cite button? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I use Firefox. I have it on all my computers--I just moved to my laptop, but I'll purge, though I don't think it will help since this thing is brand new. Logged-out editing is STRICTLY VERBOTEN, haha; don't tell ArbCom but I'll check. I don't know what a skin is or what I have, and I'll check on the others. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 00:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I purged; no change. Logged out I get the second toolbar on Help:Toolbar; I checked the enhanced button and logged in (with cache bypassed) I now also get that toolbar when I am logged in; before that I had the first one, the "Standard toolbar", without the cite button. If I could just get that first one back, the "Standard toolbar" WITH the cite button, I'd be happy enough already. Oh, my "skin" is "Vector". Drmies (talk) 00:42, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: When I log out in Firefox 50.1.0 on Windows Vista I get the third toolbar at Help:Edit toolbar including the Cite button. I can sometimes see the second toolbar loading first but being overwritten after a fraction of a second. Something may prevent this for you, maybe a browser setting or browser extension. If it doesn't work logged out then I suggest you focus on getting it to work there and forget account settings for now. If you get it to work logged out then maybe it will also work logged in. Can you try another computer, browser or Firefox version, or a newly installed Firefox with default settings and no extensions? You don't have to save when logged out. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:17, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is messed up. I just tried it in Explorer. Logged out, I get the fancy one (the third) with the Cite button. When I log in it's the same one--but without the button. Surely there's someone higher up who can fix this...? Drmies (talk) 02:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Guidance Barnstar The Guidance Barnstar
Thanks for helping me out with my link#section problem so quickly! Very kind and patient for you to always be so committed Chief2443 (talk) 17:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 19:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further re hastemplate

What is the syntax for template names with spaces. E.g., for {{Mark Twain}} how do I use the hastemplate syntax?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:56, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: hastemplate:"Mark Twain". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thx.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:36, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why does"Dombey and Son" -hastemplate:"Maurice Elvey" have the same result as "Dombey and Son"?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:02, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyTheTiger: It doesn't for me. The upper right corner says 113 results for the former and 260 for the latter. It says 147 for "Dombey and Son" hastemplate:"Maurice Elvey". 260-147 = 113 so it sounds right. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct. Maybe there was some sort of issue with my cache?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to edit the recent changes to my creations subpage to demonstrate an improved syntax. I am not really sure what you are suggesting. I think you were suggesting two different improvements.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: Yes, it was two different things and there is no reason to use both. They don't improve the result but only simplify the code. I have used {{nonwikilink}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of Encantadia (2016 TV series) episodes

Hi! Can you help me? You're an admin right? Can you remove the copyright tag on List of Encantadia (2016 TV series) episodes? Then, transfer the contents of Talk:List of Encantadia (2016 TV series) episodes/Temp to that original page. I know only admins can do it. The admin who put that tag on me is not responding. I hope you can help. Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leo kingston (talk • contribs)

@Leo kingston: I don't work with copyright investigations and Special:Contributions/Jac16888 shows no edits since your post so I suggest waiting to see if he responds. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:40, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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your opinion

hi, I posted this at the help desk(and request a query)[2], you helped me once w/ [3] so I'm seeking your opinion what to do?, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My Tables

Hi PrimeHunter,

I really appreciate your response to my question about the disappearing tables on Constantine Mavroudis, MD on the Teahouse. You cited a sentence from my material is from a website which I have never seen. I used his CV for the tables which were factual. I am happy to edit anything that is similar to other websites but the paragraphs I wrote were completely my own material. I'm getting a little discouraged :( Thank you for any help or direction you provide. I would send you a barnstar or a cookie but I don't know how. amr247rnAmr247rn (talk) 15:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Amr247rn: I have mailed a copy of the last version of the deleted page. I suggest starting from Wikipedia:Articles for creation if you try to make an article. Please cite your sources inline but reformulate their content without copying whole sentences. The faculty paragraph was suspiciously similar to [4] although you may have seen the same text somewhere else. A long list of papers doesn't belong in a Wikipedia biography. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:07, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! My intention is to put the list of papers and publications under references but I am not really sure how to do that. Do you think that would be appropriate? Again, thank you for all your help. As I stated, this is my first entry. I am a clinician by trade, not incredibly savvy with computers. This is a bit overwhelming but I feel this contribution is a worthwhile subject. I would be happy to provide more contributions or edits in my field of expertise but first I better get more acquainted with this end of Wikipedia. Amr247rn (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Amr247rn: References is for sources used to write the article. A paper by the subject is only a reference if the article talks about the paper or something mentioned in the paper. Your list of papers is far too long to display anywhere in Wikipedia. Many academic biographies have a section like Victor Negus#Selected publications. You can look for biographies in Category:GA-Class medicine articles to see what is in some articles which have been classified as good articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see!!! This was very helpful! OK, you have given me some good direction. Thank you for not tearing this apart, it's a little bit of a rough place for newcomers like myselfAmr247rn (talk) 21:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lost password

Hi, I am contacting you here because I saw you are active at the help desk. I am in quite a pickle. I was editing yesterday and when I wanted to put a pic on Wikimedia, the page asked me to login. Fair enough, I did so, then a page jumped out that my password is not safe and that I should change it. Being in the middle of thought process as I was writing article I put in a better password... only to find out now that none of my usual suspects work. Sadly, I didn't include email address into my profile. Is there any way to retrieve the password or do I need to abandon my 7 years old profile? User:Cimmerian praetor

Thank you in advance. 82.142.96.207 (talk) 08:04, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no way to retrieve the current password. A former version of meta:Privacy policy said: "Users whose accounts do not have a valid email address will not be able to reset their password if it is lost. In such a situation, however, users may be able to contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new e-mail address." It was removed in 2013.[5] I have quoted it to several users [6] but none of them said whether they tried it. The only feedback I ever received about it is from TheDJ at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 122#Login problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, back to trying combinations of usual suspects then. 82.142.96.207 (talk) 12:24, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It took quite some time, but I managed to scramble together the password. Thank you for replying so fast. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 14:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of The Catch episodes

I'd tried your version in one revision, and it didn't seem to work. But I admit I seemed to be having cacheing issues too. The version I wound up with only worked after five minutes. So I might have gotten a false-positive in my testing. Morfusmax (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Morfusmax: After editing a template or other transcluded page you may have to purge pages transcluding it to see the effect right away. There is an automatic update process but it varies how long it takes. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback message from Tito Dutta

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Hah

Thanks for catching that typo. The unconscious association to Stanford University is too stronk. TimothyJosephWood 22:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rogue One article

We can discuss it later. The source specifically mentioned it's not the first SW spin-off but it's the first canon which the lead also mention. But it can be discussed later on.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 21:01, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

I don't know if you've ever eaten Baklava, but it is one of the specialties of the ME. Thanks for being a welcoming Wikipedian. Alireza1357 (talk) 08:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CinemaScore: reply

Hi PrimeHunter. In principle, you'd be right, but the facts show that not everyone knows to use CinemaScore and so mark it as a {{dead link}} (1st example; 2nd example). I was just trying to simplify things. CinemaScore has had a new idea: is exploiting its official Twitter account to publish images that unite its average grade and the movie poster. Why not be more user-friendly by directly linking these pictures? Are they less reliable sources of what you find on cinemascore.com? Lanari Mauro. 82.84.33.205 (talk) 03:32, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your answer has been invaluable. You're right: 1) the original Twitter would be a better source; 2) it would be even better if CinemaScore had a verified Twitter account with a blue badge; 3) currently you apparently have to find the Twitter link at https://www.cinemascore.com to check it's authentic.
All true, but once you do this check, why not help users and readers? Although the Twitter account was a fake (I wouldn't be so sure: link and data match), the information is correct and this should be enough. However, there are worse trouble, don't worry. Thanks again. Mauro. 82.84.28.70 (talk) 05:57, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Timestamp (football)

Hi there sorry to bother you. My account is temporarily banned due to an editing war so this is the only method I can reach you. I have no idea until now that Mórtas is Dóchas (talk) actually started this conversation with the moditaor and stabbed me in my back. Nice. I concur that the exact time figure of the timestamp can be more precise. I am not denying that, at all. In fact, I started to add additional timing figure (with UTC) for my editing from yesterday. Nevertheless, I agree with Vaseline and Liam. A reader would want to know the date of the last match a player had participated in a domestic league or on international duty, not when some random editor decided to update the timestamp when nothing regarding the statistics can be updated. For instance, the case of Seamus Coleman. Coleman last played for Ireland and thus broken his right leg on 24 March 2017. My initial intention was always plain and simple, that is, to provide the most accurate statistics for readers. We learn from the page the exact date of a game being played by an individual and not edited by someone who deemed he can edit the timestamp whenever he likes even there is nothing to update. Bearing in mind Coleman's 43rd cap for Ireland came on 24 March 2017 and that is the reason why my timestamp was so precise and that was dated 24 March 2017 even I edited the page a couple of hours following the match between Ireland vs Wales. Mortas and his multi reverted my editing and timestamp when they deem they are not happy with the exact and precise statistics (like the Coleman case, he had to keep changing it to 2am 25 March 2017). All the initial update and statistics were done by me a few hours, sometimes a day later...after the matches. This applied to all those pages involving Everton players. Vaseline was spot on and continued to make another great point "this may also cause confusion when another editor goes to update the timestamp since it may not be apparent up to which match the timestamp was updated for". Kindly consider our viewpoint and suggestion on this issue. Cheers mods. Efc1878 (User talk:Efc1878) 10:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

The Tip of the Day Barnstar
...is hereby awarded to PrimeHunter, for an elegant fix to an annoying problem. The Transhumanist 03:51, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 09:48, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity...

What programming languages do you know? The Transhumanist 21:00, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist: It depends what you call a programming language and how much knowledge is required. I mostly use C (programming language) and PARI/GP. I learned several others long ago but have forgotten many details. The languages I have learned are unfortunately not useful at Wikipedia. I don't know PHP (MediaWiki itself), Lua (modules), or JavaScript (I can make a few simple changes to existing scripts). I do know MediaWiki's "template language". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:22, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Currently, I'm delving into JavaScript. I'm building up the JavaScript WikiProject, the Draft:Outline of JavaScript, the Outline of user scripts, and I'm developing a couple user scripts: User:The Transhumanist/anno.js, to toggle (hide/show) the annotations in bullet list entries, and User:The Transhumanist/OLUtils.js, a redlink remover. I'm having particular trouble with anno.js, in that I can't figure out how to precisely reset the location of the viewport to offset text shift resulting from making annotation content disappear.
By the way, if you are in the mood to dabble with JavaScript from time to time, feel free to join the WikiProject (hint hint). ;) Also, I'm in the process of verbosely documenting the source code of the scripts I'm writing, both in the comments in the code and as in-depth explanatory notes on the talk pages. It's so I don't forget what I've learned, and to help others follow along and learn it in the context of actual code being developed for real-world use, rather than from some hypothetical point-of-view.
I'd like to get a group of editors together who are interested in learning the JavaScript language, to benefit from group synergy, comment on each others' user script projects, sharing ideas and experiences, and perhaps improving Wikipedia's coverage of JavaScript topics (and improve WP's JS support pages) along the way. If this sounds like something you would enjoy, please let me know. The Transhumanist 00:54, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Are you psychic?

Special:Contributions/117.202.81.185 is empty, so I have no idea how you could write that. Am I missing something obvious? TigraanClick here to contact me 14:24, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tigraan: As an admin I can see a deleted edit by the IP to Talk:Krishna Kaanth, contesting the deletion of Krishna Kaanth. I don't know a non-admin way to track this. As an admin I can also see the page history of Krishna Kaanth. Once the page name is known, non-admins can guess the creator from Special:WhatLinksHere/Krishna Kaanth. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, makes sense. I forgot deleted contributions don't show up in the history. Thanks for the explanation. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:40, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Many thanks for the help with fixing that template. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:51, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 17:52, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. That image link you posted on VPT might have account details in it. I'm just guessing, but that's what "accNbrShort" suggests to me, and could be why it was chopped down. Murph9000 (talk) 11:19, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Murph9000: TheDJ posted http://fmp.cit.nih.gov/hi/FMPro?-db=HI_images.fp5&-Token.8=34318&-format=detailsimg.html&accNbrShort=3709&-L from the end of an automatic upload summary consisting of the page source cut off when the edit summary length limit was reached. "accNbr" may sound like account number but both the original upload and File:HeLa Cells Image 3709-PH.jpg say "Image ID: 3709" so it appears to be an image number, and the uploader kept 3709 in both the file name and description. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, ok, possibly misplaced concern on my part then. Sorry for not spotting that, I obviously didn't read the whole thing thoroughly enough. Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 11:43, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance error from archive

Hi, I saw your teahouse response to an issue similar to Module talk:Location map#Location map error category. No one has answered over there (it's only been a day), but maybe you have a suggestion. Thanks. MB 20:44, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for all the info and time you've taken to try and figure out the www problem on Michele Ragusa's wiki page in search engines. You rock. I realize it is a small issue in the scheme of things so the appreciation is that much greater. Parplaywright (talk) 00:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

For the help here. Joseph 10:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 22:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your help clearing up the issue with the San Jose links at Global city. Egsan Bacon (talk) 14:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 15:04, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Search user contribs

Hello, PrimeHunter! Than you very much for answering and fixing the link so quickly, too! Since I'm already here, you may allow me to ask you: Would you have an idea whether it is possible to search a user contribs page for particular text? I haven't come across a proper tool for that up to now. Have you by any chance? (As I already wrote, WikiBlame doesn't seem to work there.) Best--Erdic (talk) 13:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Erdic: I don't know a method to search the contents of the edits. A page history is easier to search because a tool or user can compare versions far apart and gradually narrow it down to find when something was added. A string in edit summaries in user contributions can be searched with a browser, usually with Ctrl+F, but it only works on the contributions visible on the page at the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Glossaries of biology

Template:Glossaries of biology has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:42, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you

Thank you for your answer to the question on the 2017 deaths category. Vorbee (talk) 17:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Search and replace regex

Hi PrimeHunter,

How do you remove a parameter with material inside of it (e.g. |access(-)date=(date) )? -- 1989 21:11, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@1989: Try replacing (\|access-?date=.*?)([\|\}]) with $2. It assumes the parameter ends at the next pipe or }. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:43, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Barnstar

The Help Desk Barnstar
For sharing your knowledge in a most charitable way. --Ergo Sum 17:07, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 17:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Table

Hi Prime Hunder, how do I remove the Row's from the Ref (last) column in the table ? --Saqib (talk) 06:40, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: What do you mean? Do you want to remove the whole Ref column? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No. I wanted to merge rows. Right now there are around 350 rows in Ref column which I wanted to make as one. --Saqib (talk) 10:12, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib: Like [7]? Or also merge the row with "Indirectly elected on reserved seats"? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! --Saqib (talk) 10:54, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect guidance - big thanks

Thanks so much for helping me with my sandbox confusion. Much appreciated. I'm sorry for the delay in thanking you - I wasn't able to look for a couple of days.ECURBEC (talk) 09:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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