Talk:Tom Petty
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American Girl
As a student at the University of Flordia, I have heard many rumors circling around the song "American Girl". Can anyone confirm that this song is about a young woman who jumped off a balcony at Beaty Towers (a dormatory at the Univeristy of Florida in Gainesville)? Tom makes a reference to "441" which is the highway that runs past these buildings, but from my observations, it doesnt look like Beaty Towers has any balconies...
- Reply - I have removed the "trivia" section because the above statement is not true. Petty, in at least one interview has explained what the song is about, and is not related to any of the above info. Also, the fact his daughter likes Smashing Pumpkins has no relavance to this page and just serves as clutter. -- Mudcrutch
1981 Tour
The Split Enz radio documentary Enzology contains a bit of information about touring with Tom Petty during 1981, & contains quotes from band members about some of the difficulties that came from touring with Petty.
- The entire Enz information blurb seems completely unecessary and argumentative. It seems some Enz fan just added it as petty (no pun intended) bickering. I am considering deleting those lines soon unless anybody can give me some solid reasoning as to why to keep it. Simply stating TPATH/Split Enz toured in '81 seems to be enough. -- Mudcrutch
- No, I just added what was quoted in the radio documentary Enzology pretty much word for word. Personally I like Tom Petty's music, but this was information I obtained that can be backed up by listening to the program (episode 7 I believe had this information). If you want to edit it please feel free. Yes I'm an Enz fan but I'm not trying to cause an argument or even be "petty"... what reason would I have to do that anyway? I just felt it was relevant information coming from an official radio program, but if you disagree then get rid of it. - Dizrythmia
- I understand your point, but it looks like somebody else took it off... -- Mudcrutch
Work with Johnny Cash
I am concerned we are missing an important part Petty played in the resurgence of Johnny Cash's carrer on American Recordings. Also, the new Anthology - Through the Years is not mentioned. -- DanMcScience
Roger McGuinn
Greater detail re: TP's musical relationship to Roger McGuinn would seem to be in order. Alas, I'm not the guy to do it. The tribute "Feel a Whole Lot Better," the joint recording "King of the Hill," and TP's general stylistic homage to RM strike me as topics worthy of addition.
Sales in the U.S.
Are there any U.S.-Sales about Tom Petty´s records? Maybe some newer ones since the start of the Nielsen Soundscan era.
Released 60 million albums? Now that's a hard working musician!
"Petty and his collaborators have released 60 million albums."
Holy shit, that guy must write all day.
What a terrible surname to give to your kids, but look out how he turned out!
What a terible surname to give to your kids, but look how great he turned out. Tom's NOT SO PETTY after all. Terrible joke. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.39.149 (talk) 03:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Article needs cleanup
This article is mainly a list of affiliations, appearances, and releases. Such information belongs in list format if at all, as in a list of recordings. The text (I'm referring to his career) should concentrate on summarizing Petty's significance: what kind of contributions he has made. It should be much, much shorter and focussed. Zaslav (talk) 07:06, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Reports of Death
Guys, it's more important that the information on Wikipedia be accurate than timely.
Wikipedia is not a newspaper! Please refrain from placing news of his death until it is verified.
Regards.
DTXBrian (talk) 19:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- "If in doubt, leave it out." Regular editors here should consider asking for admin page protection if things get too ridiculous in the coming hours. Ref (chew)(do) 19:39, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
It really saddens me for humanity how quick people are in a want to be the "first" to edit about someone's passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbx118 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- I have semi-protected the article for three days. I can only see tabloid (emphasis mine) reports he is critically ill. If and when a broadsheet source reports he has actually died, we can update then. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:48, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- .... and that doesn't seem to have done the trick, I've now full protected for 3 hours. I will unprotect as soon as somebody produces a high-quality reliable source that meets WP:BLPSOURCES here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:50, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks to User:Ritchie333 - it's a shame that duly registered editors feel the need to join the herd of IPs in abusing the encyclopedia. Ref (chew)(do) 19:52, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks to User:Ritchie333. This was reaching a point of absurdity. DTXBrian (talk) 19:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thus far, no one is confirming Petty's death, aside from TMZ and those citing TMZ. Those not citing TMZ claim he has been taken off life support, however. livelikemusic talk! 19:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Why is it that people ONLY come to the talk page to discuss this when the page gets locked? C'mon, people, use talk pages. That's what this page is for. DTXBrian (talk) 20:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Because, OMG, a website I visit daily reports it online, so it must be true. /sarcasm. livelikemusic talk! 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Why is it that people ONLY come to the talk page to discuss this when the page gets locked? C'mon, people, use talk pages. That's what this page is for. DTXBrian (talk) 20:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thus far, no one is confirming Petty's death, aside from TMZ and those citing TMZ. Those not citing TMZ claim he has been taken off life support, however. livelikemusic talk! 19:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks to User:Ritchie333. This was reaching a point of absurdity. DTXBrian (talk) 19:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- I have semi-protected the article for three days. I can only see tabloid (emphasis mine) reports he is critically ill. If and when a broadsheet source reports he has actually died, we can update then. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:48, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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As he is still alive, let's please fix the birth date in the lead sentence and infobox. So,
'''Thomas Earl Petty''' (October 20, 1950)
to
'''Thomas Earl Petty''' (born October 20, 1950)
and
| birth_date = {{birth date|mf=yes|1950|10|20}}
to
| birth_date = {{birth date and age|mf=yes|1950|10|20}}
– Muboshgu (talk) 19:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Done, thank you. ST47 (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Tom Petty died today.
He is being reported dead by a heart attack. --2600:1009:B10E:B1B4:8DB4:C4B4:2EDD:AF8B (talk) 19:55, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Edit it then. But you can't, because that's unconfirmed and admins have stopped you doing it. Ref (chew)(do) 19:56, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- There is not a reliable source that can confirm this. Only tabloid response. livelikemusic talk! 19:57, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Here's one: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-petty-legendary-rocker-is-dead-at-66/ Corndog234 (talk) 20:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Add artist's date of death. Alexbehrens (talk) 19:57, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- There is not a reliable source that can confirm this. Only tabloid response. livelikemusic talk! 19:57, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Impossible. You have not supplied a source that says he is dead, and admins won't be agreeing to this request. Ref (chew)(do) 19:58, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: Per livelikemusic (talk · contribs) and Refsworldlee (talk · contribs). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Death: October 1, 2017 Clb1265 (talk) 20:00, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- There is not a reliable source that can confirm this. Only tabloid response. livelikemusic talk! 20:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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WAS. he's dead. Odm56 (talk) 20:00, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- There is not a reliable source that can confirm this. Only tabloid response. livelikemusic talk! 20:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Tom Petty has been pulled off of life support.
As reported by the New York Daily News and Chicago Sun Times: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/tom-petty-critical-condition-cardiac-arrest-article-1.3536756 https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/tom-petty-on-life-support-after-being-found-unconscious-tmz/ Jokullmusic 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- These are all reporting on the TMZ report, none of them are independent sources on their own. ST47 (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- TMZ is reliable. Jokullmusic 20:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Tom Petty had a cardiac arrest today and is on 'life support' 67.98.222.31 (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Please change his status as he is no longer with us. RIP. 216.195.89.58 (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- No confirmation. ST47 (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: is TMZ not a reliable source? [1] — Amakuru (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Tom Petty Passed Away today. Please update. 38.142.32.66 (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Bythenumbers014 (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
tom petty is dead.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
CBS News Confirms Petty's Death
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Four minutes ago, CBS News confirmed Petty's death, as found here: CBS News livelikemusic talk! 20:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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