Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 11

January 11

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 11, 2018.

Fame (movie, TV series, and theme song)

Fame (movie, TV series, and theme song) → Fame (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Besides the fact that the disambiguator in the title is too long to be a plausible search term, the redirect is also misleading since there is no topic/article in the target disambiguation page that is all three of these: movie, TV series, and theme song. Steel1943 (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Celestial bureaucracy

Celestial bureaucracy → Chinese theology (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Celestial Bureaucracy → Chinese theology (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The word "bureaucracy" does not appear in the target article. Previously looked like [1] but was "merged" in 2014. I use scare quotes because most of this content does not currently appear at the target article and so I am not certain whether the term "merge" is accurate. N Y Kevin 05:31, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment added Celestial Bureaucracy to this nomination. Not sure whether the best course of action here is to add some sourced content to the target, or WP:REDLINK deletion to promote article creation. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or keep as redirect. The article "celestial bureaucracy" had no sources and all versions in other languages were copies of the English one.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 17:26, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 05:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The metaphor of referring to Chinese traditional deities as a "celestial bureaucracy" appears to be used by a variety of reliable sources (here's one example), and perhaps a few sentences should be added in the related article? The redirects seem approriate enough. The only problem that I see is that the target needs to be expanded. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This looks like no consensus, but let's see if one more relist helps.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Highway hierarchies

Highway hierarchies → Contraction hierarchies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This redirect should be deleted. Contraction hierarchies are a part of some routing algorithms, often on road networks. "Highway hierarchy" however refers to something more general and intuitively understood, i.e. that some roads are larger, more important than others. Nate Wessel (talk) 20:09, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LA Noire 2

LA Noire 2 → L.A. Noire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
L.A. Noire 2 → L.A. Noire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There never was a game under this name; what eventually became of the spiritual sequel was Whore of the Orient. However, since the name is completely unofficial, it should be better deleted. Lordtobi (✉) 18:58, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is no such game, and no evidence there will be._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unlikely search term now that the idea of a sequel has been abandoned. Pichpich (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Bekowsky

Stefan Bekowsky → L.A. Noire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Appears to be the only of its kind for L.A. Noire; since there is no detailed character description anywhere, and he is just a side character, this is a cruft-y (WP:GAMECRUFT) redirect. Lordtobi (✉) 18:52, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Founder of

Founder of → List of people considered father or mother of a field (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure, but probably retarget to the disambiguation page, Founder. In my long experience disambiguating links to "Founder", a founder of something is more likely to refer to a business or organization. bd2412 T 17:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete to allow Wikipedia's search function to help readers locate what they are looking for instead of disarming them to a disambiguation page that may not include what they are trying to find. Steel1943 (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Allow (song)

Allow (song) → Utopia (Björk album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Allow (Björk song) → Utopia (Björk album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Appears there are editors creating redirects for rumoured song tracks. There is no 'Allow' on the target and unable to find a Bjork or other song with this title. Richhoncho (talk) 11:44, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, probably harmless. Early descriptions of the anticipated album (e.g. [2]) suggested there would be a track titled "Allow", which was not present when the album was released. Perhaps it was dropped from the final cut. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:52, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanvector:. Fair point and if you want to add information into the article then the listing here should be removed. However, if there had been any reference to the song in the WP article I would not have listed here. They are redirects that take you nowhere. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:07, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closer: don't let my comment stand in the way of what is probably a WP:G7 situation. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:22, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I created these redirects, but feel free to delete. Seemed appropriate at the time, but not necessary now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Characters of Final Fantasy V

Characters of Final Fantasy V → Final Fantasy V (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Article was cruft and redirect contains no relevance to the article. Should be deleted. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 04:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's possible that this article could someday return in proper, sourced form a la other articles in Category:Lists of Final Fantasy characters. In general there's no need and no gain from burying the revision history. SnowFire (talk) 06:07, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Per WP:TNT there could be a gain from deleting it and allowing it to be recreated in properly sourced fashion._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:37, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This redirect is a {{R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 21:26, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Restore as an article and send to WP:AFD. Regardless of what recently happened at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Characters of Final Fantasy V, I still believe that is the best option. Steel1943 (talk) 21:29, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thathal

Thathal → Tribes and clans of the Pothohar Plateau (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of them at the target article, which has been cleaned of unsourced/non-notable entries over a period of many years. Can't find any reliable sources that would justify expansion of the redirect into a standalone article. Sitush (talk) 04:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about we add the basic info from these two classes of Jats and Rajput who belong to this clan at least. There are Hindu Thathals in Jammu were are Jats majority of muslim are Jats along with a few Rajputs. §

What I Want (Bebe Rexha song)

What I Want (Bebe Rexha song) → All Your Fault: Pt. 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No such song, checked discography and main article. Apparently the EP where it presently redirects was going to be called "What I Want" Richhoncho (talk) 00:14, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]