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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Mamyles (talk | contribs) at 22:19, 8 February 2018 (→‎Template:2018 UPSL Wild West standings: Keep). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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February 3

Template:April Boys

Navbox serving merely as a discography for a band whose article was deleted two years ago (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/April Boys). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:13, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Whoa there!

rarely used non-standard warning template (you can find uses by checking uses of the associated image) Frietjes (talk) 23:17, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Doesn't violate any of the template namespace guidelines or other WP:TFD#REASONS. Yes, it might be sparingly used, but that doesn't necessitate deletion; one might as well ban all warning templates and replace them with a standardised complaint form. - User:Axisixa [talk] [contribs] 01:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • so why is "warning template" labelled as a barnstar? are warnings = awards? if people are trying to collect warnings as barnstars, that violates many WP policies. Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • This is because the template incorrectly used {{Barnstar documentation}}; it seems like the template creator did not understand WP guidelines. Nobody is trying to use this template as a barnstar though, so there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. User:Axisixa [t] [c] 01:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, or move to userspace. Clearly not needed. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:03, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Rarely used may be an understatement. This has been used twice in 10 years. Mamyles (talk) 21:58, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wettest tropical cyclones in Honduras

unused; not sure where this would be used Frietjes (talk) 23:18, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Can easily be inserted in applicable places in articles. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I will tweak the template tomorrow and add it to the list of wettest tropical cyclones by country article.Jason Rees (talk) 00:18, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Jason Rees and Yellow Evan: if you are using it only one article (List of wettest tropical cyclones by country) why do you need it in a separate template? the other table in that section (Swan Island) is in the article directly and not in a separate template. Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Does it seriously matter? After all to my knowledge there isnt a rule on wiki that a template has to be used two or three times before it can be a template.Jason Rees (talk) 15:31, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • from Wikipedia:TG, Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. one can argue if a table of statistics counts as "article text", but the spirit is that we generally should not store content in templates unless it is being used in more than one article. and even then, there is LST. Frietjes (talk) 19:07, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:USL Premier Development League Southwest Division stadiums

Entirely unnecessary template, we don't maintain stadium templates for semi-pro leagues. Jay eyem (talk) 06:10, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 15:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No need. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 15:47, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, so far, all of delete comments are WP:JNN and WP:IDONTLIKEIT arguments, which should carry zero weight, because they do not show any effort in justifying deleting the template. The stadiums and teams meet WP:GNG and it is a notable term to know where PDL teams play, and the PDL teams in general are a noteworthy GNG item. The idea that the PDL is not fully professional carries a WP:DIDNOTWIN feel. Quidster4040 (talk) 19:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment WP:GNG is for articles, not templates. The articles themselves may be notable, but that does not mean that the templates are useful. Under WP:DEL10 they can be deleted. I would also think that merge might be an acceptable alternative such as to a Template:Premier Development League stadiums Jay eyem (talk) 21:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • But that assumes that they are redundant or useless, which they are not. Quidster4040 (talk) 02:14, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I found the template useful, enough that I marked it to watch. Unfortunately, by design, it is more difficult to watch templates, requiring going through multiple pages. I don't mark them enough because of that and templates often get deleted in secrecy. Templates are navigational tools. I used these to navigate to a bunch of stadiums I have related other content to. So they are useful and thus needed. The above people's delete votes simply show their ignorance of the usefulness of the templates and cannot be a definitive statement of these not being needed. Instead, they impose their value judgement on the league these stadiums are associated with and in the intent of diminishing (or ultimately deleting) its presence on wikipedia, wish to delete the supplemental content created by the editors who have contributed to that league. Trackinfo (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment ok 1. Dial back the accusatory tone. 2. You need to recognize that these templates are primarily related to WP:FOOTY and that determination is the primary one used for keeping and maintaining these templates 3. There is already a precedent for deleting these exact kinds of templates. I have proposed merging them as an alternative because I believe that it could potentially be useful as a single template but not as they are now. Jay eyem (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do not stand on a precedent established by a severe minority of three people. The same three people who are placing delete ivotes on this page. Finally you have some pushback for an ill advised prior deletion which should get replace. Trackinfo (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It was closed by an admin unaffiliated with the project. Take it up with them, not me. And again, watch your tone, please. Jay eyem (talk) 06:00, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge I don't see a compelling reason to delete. Evidently we do maintain such templates, and some editors above have found these useful. Mamyles (talk) 22:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2018 UPSL Wild West standings

Template for an article that fails WP:GNG Jay eyem (talk) 05:59, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 15:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, article itself is notable and receives WP:SIGCOV, the template helps preserve the article from being too long in length. Quidster4040 (talk) 02:18, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/Delete Useful template for the 2018 UPSL season article. Keep if that article is kept, delete if it is deleted. Bashum104 (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As I mentioned above, there is a mass move to make this league disappear from wikipedia, so its component articles and the templates to support the articles are under attack. The league is notable, the season they play is already (and will continue to be) notable. The templates that support the layout of that season's article are useful for the cleanliness of that presentation. Even if it is a single use template, templates make content more orderly and are justified. Trackinfo (talk)
Comment "Under attack"? Please dial back the accusations and allow the content to be discussed in a civil manner please. Whether or not the league is notable remains to be seen. Jay eyem (talk) 00:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Every TfD is an attack on the content. There is no other term for it. The intent is to destroy. Trackinfo (talk) 02:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would appreciate it if you read/re-read WP:CIVIL before your next response. "an attack on content" and "The intent is to destroy" are highly accusatory, and such comments are not needed for this discussion. Jay eyem (talk) 06:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I feel that this nomination is premature. This is being used in an article for good reason. If that article is deleted, then would be the appropriate time to nominate these templates. Mamyles (talk) 22:19, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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