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Current status: Good article
The issue of whether Wales is a country or not has been repeatedly raised.
The result of all these debates is that Wales is indeed a country. This has been confirmed in formal mediation.

The discussion is summarised in this archive here. Further information on the countries within the UK can be found at Countries of the United Kingdom, and a table of reliable sources can be found at Talk:Countries of the United Kingdom/refs.

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2015

Average rain fall.........53 inches

Average summer temperature..........48-63

Average winter temperature...........35-45

Capital city.................Cardiff

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2017

nobody really knows us — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaUser,User (talk • contribs) 20:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No-one is going to edit this request as you have not explained what change you'd want to make. Iggy (talk) 21:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Plaid Cymru Seats

Following the 2017 General Election, I am sure that Plaid Cymru hold 4 Welsh seats in Westminster, not 3, having won Ceredigion from the Liberal Democrats, which leaves the Liberal Democrats with 0. Could somebody with editing privileges please alter this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draig ap Dafydd (talk • contribs) 13:43, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done, with a source. Verbcatcher (talk) 20:27, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wales is not a country...

I know a lot of British and Welsh people refer to Wales as a country but it is not. Wikipedia's own page on "country" starts by saying "distinct national entity." Then there's a bunch of what some Welshman probably put on the "country" page about how a country can be occupied by a another sovereign state but that's simply not true. Does anyone refer to Scotland as a "country?" Does anyone refer to "Northern Ireland" as a country? Both have more autonomy than Wales. So if you're going to call Wales a "country," then you need to change the "Scotland" and "Northern Ireland" pages to list them as countries. Why don't we go by the UN's definition of "country" and say that it requires UN representation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 05:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC) FratGrad (talk) 05:57, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We have been here so many times before. Please read through all the archives; this argument surfaces in probably every one of them. If you have a new justication supported by authoratative sources that has not already been discussed, then please post it here. However arguments along the lines presented above are most unlikely to get any traction here.  Velella  Velella Talk   05:51, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK so I read through the comments on the previous article. How many of those "75 reputable and independent sources" are sources from within the UK? I bet the vast majority of them are sources from within the UK and the only reason people from different regions refer to themselves as "countries" is because of FIFA. So any source from within the UK is going to be biassed that way. Nobody outside of the UK, maybe (and that's a big maybe) some "sources" in commonwealths refer to them as countries or in reference to FIFA but that's going to be it. Otherwise, in the legal, diplomatic, definition of country, they are not countries. Texas even has more autonomy than Wales. Texas, unlike Wales, can operate and manage its own military force. So are the moderators going to change the Texas page to "country?" Let's be honest, every aspect of the word "constituent countries" as the moderator defined them and now the wiki definition for "country" would apply to Texas; and any other US state for that matter. FratGrad (talk) 06:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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