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high singing voice

I don't want to revive the discussion which, to my opinion, went the wrong way, but it is fact that Neil Sedaka had (and still has) an almost perfect alto or contralto voice which seems to have never changed, even when he was 70 years old. It seems that he never had what is sometimes called "voice breaking" (in German: "Stimmbruch", what normally occurs when boys are 14/15 years old). I'd like to hear your opinion about that.

A German pop-music lover, almost the same age as Neal 91.21.73.101 (talk) 11:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Songs used in Zeta Gundam

Both "Better Days/Toki wo" and "Bad and Beautiful/Hoshizora" were both composed, recorded, and featured on albums around a decade or more before Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam premiered (and for that matter, some years before Gundam itself was conceived!). I'm not sure what year the melody for "Mizu/For Us" was written, but it may have also been years prior to Zeta, and if not, I doubt Sedaka himself had the show in mind when writing it. I remember reading that the suggestion to use the melodies came from a relative of Sedaka with connections to the Japanese music industry and/or Yoshiyuki Tomino (or something like that); if I can find that source again, I'll post it. Tony Myers 00:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album articles

Hi! If anyone should want to start creating album articles about Sedaka's albums, you can copy the track listings (and maybe some more things like chart info) from the Swedish wikipedia [1]. I've created articles for most of his albums. Hakanand 11:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Breaking Up" remake

Since the section on the ballad remake of "Breaking Up is Hard To Do" comes right after the section on Sedaka being fired from the Carpenters tour by Richard Carpenter, is it worth mentioning that the arrangement on the "Breaking Up" remake is by Richard Carpenter? Rich 13:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carpenter is credited as the arranger of that track on Sedaka's "The Hungry Years" LP, which is the LP on which the track first appeared. Rich 05:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ABBA

The article used to say that Sedaka helped on the English lyrics to ABBA's song "Ring Ring" for the Eurovision Song Contest. Sedaka is credited as a co-writer in the Ring Ring (song) article, but the song came in 3rd in Sweden's national "heat" to represent the country in the contest. An unlogged editor changed "Ring Ring" to "Waterloo" without citing a source. According to the "Waterloo (ABBA song)" article, ABBA won the following year's Eurovision Song Contest, but that article does not list Sedaka as a writer or mention him in any other way. Assuming that both articles are correct (although they do not cite sources, either), Sedaka's role in translating lyrics for an ABBA song that was not entered Eurovision, but unsuccessfully competed to represent Sweden in the contest, is insignificant in the context of Sedaka's career. So I deleted the sentence about this subject. Finell (Talk) 01:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

THE HUNGRY YEARS

For sure Neil Sedaka wrote some hot stuff in his first career, but nothing to compare with what he offered when he came back in early ’70s; PUPPET MAN (Tom Jones), LOVE WILL KEEP US TOGETHER (Captain & Tennille), LAUGHTER IN THE RAIN are just outstanding songs, among the best standards written at this time. But I think you should devote some lines to a much better one, a high-class classical that is (according to me) one of the very best song of the last 60 years: THE HUNGRY YEARS. Listen to it carefully, and you’ll see it has it all: a great melody, meaningful lyrics, a very strong musical environment and Sedeka’s voice at his very best. Wow! That is a hell of a song. I just can’t understand why it has not been covered over and over yet. This song is purely, simply a pearl. --André54 (talk) 02:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neil in tour concert Philippines

I have to add the notable tour concert of Philippines since this is a feather on his cap's comeback.: Neil also toured the Philippines for his May 17, 2008 concert at the Araneta Coliseum.Neil Sedaka arrives in RP for concert, 05/15/2008 --Florentino floro (talk) 09:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two pictures

Let's not have a war over the pictures. There's plenty of room for them both. Rothorpe (talk) 00:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed an early release

The first time I saw Sedaka on TV (1959)was either American Bandstand or a prime time show like Ed Sullivan. He sang a song called "Ring a-rockin'" which was introduced as his current release. I didn't see it in your discography, so I hope you can do some research to verify. Thanks.

Gjolusczak (talk) 13:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)Greg Olusczak, 9/25/2009[reply]

The song is here and here on YouTube. Maybe it didn't chart. Joel Whitburn's Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits has "The Diary" (December 1958) as his first chart single. After that it's Oh Carol (Oct 59) and Stairway to Heaven (April 1960). Grimhim (talk) 13:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Run Samson run

Neil Sedaka's Run Samson Run was very popular in Europa . In this article I searched for the song. In Discography section, it was #28 and in the introductory paragraph it was #30. Which is correct ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dara Sedaka needs her own article!

I do think so, since she is a musician herself, not just the little daughter singing with her father! Widely forgotten these days, she even released an album in 1982 at the tender age of 19: I'm Your Girlfriend, which is obviously very hard to find these days and prone to go for over $120 US. (Yes I'm serious.) But at any rate, just this own album would justify the existence of a separate article for her. IMHO. -andy 217.50.61.64 (talk) 21:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

   "Widely forgotten" weakens your case substantially, but on the other hand, the quickest way to remedy the lack of a link between her mentions at Neil_Sedaka#Personal_life and at List of 1980s one-hit wonders in the United States#1980 is to covert the Rdr Dara Sedaka to a stub linking to both of those article sections.
--Jerzy•t 07:44, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
   ... which is a matter that arises bcz the stub will work to link each of the two existing chunks of info on her more cleanly (less material in his bio that clutters his article for most readers primarily interested in just him, no extraneous prose about via a link into his bio for those primarily interested in the existing link into his bio).
--Jerzy•t 09:28, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Early Life

"However, when The Beatles and the British Invasion took American music in a different direction, Sedaka was left without a recording career and decided a major change in his life was necessary, moving his family to the UK in the early 1970s." This one sentence covers about 8 - 10 years and implies a cause and effect relationship between Sedaka moving to the UK in the early 1970s because he lost his recording career due to the British Invasion that began in 1963. This sentence probably wouldn't be acceptable in a high school essay, much less an encyclopedia.Jtyroler (talk) 01:47, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Big Hits in the Early 1960s

This paragraph covers his career, based on song dates, up to 1963. The last sentence has him appearing several times on American Bandstand and Shindig!. Shindig! did not begin until 1964 - was Sedaka performing earlier hits or did he have other songs? If he had other songs, shouldn't those be listed? Also, is there any reference material for this portion of the article? Billboard Chart information should be fairly easy to find (and easy to reference). This section (and others) read like they are based on personal knowledge only.Jtyroler (talk) 01:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Mid to Late 1970s

Based on this sentence, "From 1974 onward, Sedaka's records were issued in Europe and around the world on the Polydor label. His first album of new material with Polydor was Laughter in the Rain." the next paragraph makes little sense because it contradicts this. "In the US, Sedaka's records were issued first on the Rocket label from 1974–77 and on the Elektra label from 1977-81." Were Sedaka's records on Polydor everywhere but the United States and Rocket Records was his U.S. label, or was Sedaka releasing material on both labels worldwide? Was Rocket Records only released in the U.S.? How long did Sedaka's records released on Polydor?Jtyroler (talk) 02:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the "Sedaka's Back" section about "The Immigrant", what critics "hailed its beautiful orchestration and evocative lyrics: wistful, nostalgic" and what does this have to do with John Lennon? Was the original recording dedicated to John Lennon, or was this during a concert performance later on, possibly after Lennon's murder?Jtyroler (talk) 02:19, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That scratchy American noughts and crosses sign

Americans may be unaware that the # has little meaning outside the US. So, when a recording reaches Number 9 in the Hot 100 - and we, in the rest of the English speaking world, see #9 - it's like reading computer code ... it doesn't have a meaning. Could there be a universally acceptable way of writing number. What about No. ? Francis Hannaway 17:33, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Did you mean to say "Tic-tac-toe"? :) I changed '#' to 'No.' as used in many other articles about artists and charting music. See WP:Be bold and next time feel free to make such changes yourself! -- hulmem (talk) 01:42, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Hulmem. I didn't want to cause waves across the Atlantic. (Actually, things like this don't usually stop me - but thanks anyway :) ) Francis Hannaway 20:02, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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It was Istanbul 500 years prior to Neil's grandparents coming to America

Gee, the article says then known as Constantinople:

Neil's grandparents came to the United States from Istanbul, then known as Constantinople, in 1910.

I don't care what the reference says, Constantinople's been known as Istanbul since about 1453 when the Turks conquered the last of the Byzantine empire predating by about 500 years, his grandparent's arrival in the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.111 (talk) 20:36, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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