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Requested move 24 July 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 02:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ahiravan → Ahiravana – Ahiravana is a sanskritham name & this variation is specific to a few languages & not reflective of the character's actual name nor the naming conventions of the characters in that language/era.It would be misleading to rename this character with a modern name that is not the original name.His brother is named Ravana, & he is named Ahiravana.The pronunciation is reflected in the Indian script in which this name is written where there is an -a at the end. Schwa deletion (the rule of not pronouncing the last vowel) does not exist in Sanskritham. 174.44.177.134 (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Ahiravan" seems more common than "Ahiravana" with a google search. Please cite sources for your assertions. Jim1138 (talk) 02:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can see Ravana, his brother's name's spelling, and see the rest. It is simple Ravana with ahi added in the front. here's a book: https://books.google.com/books?id=GSwbBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT42&lpg=PT42&dq=ahiravana&source=bl&ots=EwXm0wZSug&sig=Wf2KavMDvQK5nf2WH550HUDgB5Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiaqaGJmdXcAhWuq1kKHSymCUgQ6AEwIHoECBMQAQ#v=onepage&q=ahiravana&f=false

that preserves the proper transliteration.

and another. https://books.google.com/books?id=ZMgclIr9aeEC&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=ahiravana&source=bl&ots=YONaU0B_2q&sig=Xw5GiwvMjX3U_bBFLDkmWLYtZzw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiaqaGJmdXcAhWuq1kKHSymCUgQ6AEwIXoECBAQAQ#v=onepage&q=ahiravana&f=false

keep in mind that the google search results reflect a representation of a singular language/region's variation of the original name. If this were a Hindi/Punjabi/Bengali etc. wiki then Ahiravan or whatever variation would make sense, but this isn't. This is talking about the original historical character. अहिरावण- this is Devanagari, the most prevalent script used to write Sanskritham. ण-here is the ending letter ण-this translates as -na https://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/sanskrit_cons.gif here is an alphabet & transliteration of the alphabet. 3rd row, at the end is the -na letter. this word is spelled ahiravana, not ahiravan which would require something called a halantha, which would drop the ending -a sound. is this information sufficient?

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