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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Woodensuperman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018^[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal

There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!

Project updates

ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.

New scripts

User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js^(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.

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Template:Burger King

I reverted your removal of links on Template:Burger King. For starters, many new Portals are being created on Wikipedia, and portals need links that link to them, so readers will be aware of their existence. Navigation templates have been a traditional place to add such links. Not sure why you removed them, but please keep this in mind, because it's important for readers to be able to find content. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:50, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Nb. After reverting your edit, I did re-remove the Commons link, though as per WP:NAV-WITHIN. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

<noinclude>

Re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/20th Century Fox Studio Classics, etc.: please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Smash (U.S. TV series)

Hi. Nothing wrong with changing it into a dab... but please be aware that in doing so, it created over 350 dab links in need of repair. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Woodensuperman,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW

Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.

If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.

We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.

With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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Removing Cats

The category for the Alpha Phi Omega template is in the Noinclude section, so I don't see how the entries in WP:CAT#TCAT apply. It isn't being used to force the articles that it is in to be in the Category:Alpha Phi Omega.Naraht (talk) 17:05, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

But I see that the section above does apply. I will revert.Naraht (talk) 17:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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Luther Russell

I've undone your recent excision from the article. Unfortunately, it was all properly referenced, if done in PR language style. I may take the time to 'un-PR' it, or you might also. You can verify that I'm the editor who tried to PROD this article into deserved oblivion, but now that it's ben rescued, the guidelines for non-POV editing need to prevail. I'm about to leave an ironic rant on the WP:MUS Talk page. If you check out the reason given to block the PROD and then read my exchange with the blocker on the Russell Talk page you may enjoy the rant. Regards Tapered (talk) 03:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm breaking a promise. I havaen't go the stomach for a rant, or even a polite statement on that subject, in that venue. My apologies again. Tapered (talk) 04:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tapered, I've reverted your edit, as I don't think I actually removed anything, just restructured so that his entire career is no longer in the lede, and corrected usage of firstname to surname. --wooden superman 09:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Redlinks in templates

Why does it matter if they're redlinks? They still should be on here. If you don't want them to be redlinks, then I'll have them created someday. Are you an admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.252.79 (talk) 15:45, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Navboxes are for navigating between articles. Redlinks are not articles and they do not aid navigation. Per WP:NAVBOX: "Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia.". See also WP:EXISTING. But by all means, WP:WTAF. --wooden superman 15:48, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

If the article is very likely to be written some red links are allowed on templates, per guideline. If an article hasn't been written in an adequate amount of time (months? years?) then it could be deleted. And yes, as woodensuperman says, please consider writing the articles associated with the red links you favor. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

My Fair Lady (upcoming film) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect My Fair Lady (upcoming film). Since you had some involvement with the My Fair Lady (upcoming film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 21:52, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Ariana Grande song title stylizations

Please stop removing them. We go by how a song title is stylized on iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, and other music services as a source for these and the ones you're removing can be verified on all of them. "No" and "Back to You" for example are oddly stylized on their single artworks but we don't use them because the song titles aren't styled that way on music services.--NØ 18:32, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

This is absolute nonsense. It has long been common practice on albums and singles to drop a cap on the title. It is such a common thing to happen, we don't need to bring attention to such a minor point in the lede. We don't do that with With the Beatles or "Beetlebum", we don't need to do that here. --wooden superman 09:26, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Its not "absolute nonsense". WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is no reason to remove stylizations from here when thats how these song titles appear on every platform a consumer might go to consume them (i.e iTunes, Spotify, anything.. you name it). You're completely unjustified in removing these stylizations just because you don't like them even though they obviously exist and can be verified by a simple visit to the aforementioned music services. Do not continue removing them unless you get people to agree with you on the respective article talk pages.--NØ 10:13, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Your claim that "we go by how a song title is stylized on iTunes, YouTube, Spotify" is nonsense. Look at the artwork and all the other sources. But, even if the artwork is in lowercase, it is such a minor point, we do not need to bring attention to it in the lede. --wooden superman 10:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm with NØ on this one. I think what doesn't make sense is "we don't need to bring attention to such a minor point in the lede", and the fact that the artwork is stylized differently (upper cased) isn't a valid argument since a lot of singles and albums' artwork do not feature the name of the song/album. Plus, both "With the Beatles" and "Beetlebum" are styled in upper case as in here and here. This is based on the name of the song, as displayed on the platforms it is available, not based on the artwork. — Artmanha (talk) 23:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Tres Milagros (upcoming Mexican TV series) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tres Milagros (upcoming Mexican TV series). Since you had some involvement with the Tres Milagros (upcoming Mexican TV series) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 19:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

List of The Voice coaches moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, List of The Voice coaches, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Whispering^(t) 14:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Whispering. I only created the list so that the Category:The Voice (franchise) coaches could be deleted per this discussion. Category has been tagged for over six months now! --wooden superman 16:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Honestly the best place to let someone know a speedy has been hanging around for too long is over at the Administrators' noticeboard. Whispering^(t) 16:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I only speedied it after creating the list, as this was a condition for the delete. We're in a bit of a Catch-22 now! --wooden superman 16:43, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

why am I here?

oh, right! I have general concerns about categories and lists, and the transclusion of those into main, is Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates the place to discuss those concerns? cygnis insignis 14:28, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

I'd say either there or at the relevant wikiproject. --wooden superman 14:30, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Demi Lovato songs

Re: {{Demi Lovato songs}} I'm a bit late to the party, but just my 2 cents, don't waste your time defending against people like SNUGGUMS. Some people just refuse to hear you. Your points were all very well made and well argued. Keep up the good work. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 07:30, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the words of support! :) --wooden superman 12:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Age of Enlightenment

Why did you revert my edit to this template? —Eli355 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Woodensuperman,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

Couple of moves

Hey,

I just thought I'd pop by and give you a heads up on the move requests I've just closed (1, 2). As RFC is centralised and more users are likely to give their input, and also so nobody gets accused of shopping forums, I've procedurally closed the two move discussions currently in the backlog which you started. As I've noted, regardless of the RFC result, this is with no prejudice to speedy renomination on the conclusion of the RFC.

Many thanks,

SITH (talk) 13:32, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Seems the sensible course of action. --wooden superman 08:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC

Small world

Luck of the draw...it's amazing that you did your first edit of the Grand Canyon template a couple hours after I did my first edit on the template. What are the odds! Randy Kryn (talk) 17:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Metallica songs

FYI, see Template talk:Metallica. Frietjes (talk) 18:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

List of HD DVD Releases speedy deletion

I'm confused as to why it's being requested for deletion? There are countless other similar lists on Wikipedia, what makes this one wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercennarius (talk • contribs) 15:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:INDISCRIMINATE. --wooden superman 15:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

What could be done to allow this page to remain on Wikipedia? Having a page where people can see the full list of titles and links to their pages, there release dates, country released in, etc. is valuable to people. Is there something that can be changed to allow this page to continue to exist?