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Kawartha Credit Union article declined

Hi, I am confused and disappointed that you have declined to have this article. There are many referenced and verified sources in it. I do not believe it reads like an advertisement. It is factual, concise and sourced. This is a very large credit union that had an article on wikipedia for well over a decade before it was deleted. Without any specific feedback I can't change it.

Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School

Hello, I think I've followed all your advice since you originally rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School. I'm waiting patiently for it to be re-reviewed, read the guidance, tried the IRC - any other advice please on improvements I can make? ~~

Question about citing date of birth and location of notable person

I've a question on how to cite the date of birth and location of a notable person. This is related to a page you reviewed for me previously, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athel_Cornish-Bowden. I originally had the birthdate on the page but removed it because I didn't have any evidence to back it up. I now have access to the person's birth cetificate, but page "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_(people)&action=edit&section=15" says "Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth," so the question then is how do I add the birthdate to the page? Rhodydog (talk) 22:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The simple answer is that you don't! We don't add ANY personal details unless they have been published somewhere. Theroadislong (talk) 07:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering my question. I know you're not going to like this and I've been scolded for bringing this kind of thing up before but I examined 10 biographies at random of notable persons (across different walks of life) and each one I examined gave an uncited birthdate. This means that not all editors are as careful as you are. If someone wrote a biography on the person in question in a reputable journal (e.g Nature) which gave details such as the birthdate, I assume I could use that as evidence? 128.208.19.3 (talk) 20:25, 20 September 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Please read other crappy articles exist, it's not an excuse! If the birth date is sourced in a reputable journal then by all means cite it. Theroadislong (talk) 21:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree absolutely it’s not an excuse! However, it would be useful if Wikipedia editors could be more consistent. Obviously you do what you to maintain consistency but there are so many biographies of notable people that I’ve checked which just state the birthdate, as well as numerous other bits of information, without any evidence. Rhodydog (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editta Braun - new article

Hi, you declined my article, and it is true that I am new. But I don't see why the sources I mentioned should not be reliable and independent. The citations come mostly from different international newspapers. I could add much more (I have three classers of press) but I need a hint what kind of press would be helpful. The general advices in the wikipedia manual don't help me, I can't see my mistake. And for the style: I tried to make it encyclopedic. Where are your problems? I would be happy to learn and improve. Can we get into dialogue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagardet (talk • contribs) 10:18, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The "Life " section has only one source, other content is inappropriate in tone for example "Braun's political approach is also reflected in a decidedly intercultural mode of production", " painfully questioned the meaning of artistic creation", "The impulse to turn to contemporary dance"... none of it sourced. The draft also has multiple in-line external links which we don't use. Theroadislong (talk) 10:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I just tried to make it better...Lagardet (talk) 20:13, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A brownie for you!

For pitching in on Category:AfC pending submissions by age/Very old. -- Worldbruce (talk) 03:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rejection of the article DR. Paulette Steeves

Hi

You declined my article on Dr. Steeves. I have provided enough citations and many links within the article as well I have their recent CV and from that CV I have plenty of information about them regarding their work and many more things.

Can you tell me what do I need to do more so that the article will be approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bawa Sahil Chouhan (talk • contribs) 13:48, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And therein lies the problem, the draft Draft:Paulette Steeves reads like a CV and as I said, is woefully lacking in sources, bloated and promotional. All of the in line external links need to be removed, as does everything that doesn't have a reliable independent source. Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by independent reliable sources so that information can be verified. Theroadislong (talk) 14:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the guidance

Thanks for your input on my draft article regarding Eric Maddox! As you suggested, I've removed the in-line external links. I've also edited the text and added more citations that specifically focus on Mr. Maddox and his role in the capture of Saddam Hussein. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSM400 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editta Braun - new article

OK thanks, I will try to improve.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagardet (talk • contribs) 19:15, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, I will try to improve. Lagardet (talk) 19:16, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 03:28:09, 27 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Uday.simha.prakash


Hey! Thank you for making time to audit my page submission. I obviously am new to this, i have been looking at using this from the guides i read online. It seems i am not doing too good a job. I read your comments, thank you. How may i change the submission so that people know an organisation exists that does this kind of work?

What i did was visited the Homejoy page and followed a similar language.

Please direct me to where i may understand better how i could change this submission.

Thank you again.

Uday.simha.prakash (talk) 03:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thanks for rejecting my article

UnicornTears11 (talk) 17:44, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your help and hard work. A little something sweet as a sign of appreciation. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:39, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sir please help me created my wikipedia

Sir please help me I was try in one year but to success — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4066:13:19B3:A4B2:CED:3864:8EE4 (talk) 03:28, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why my sandbox article is getting rejected? I have placed the reference links, Internal Links from Wikipedia, etc. How can I get the article published? Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diwakarmudaliar (talk • contribs) 10:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Theroadislong

Thanks for your suggestions. I am considering the option to be adopted by a more experienced editor. I have created my user page with the request: I would like my adopter to be a English native speaker and have a background in Geometry. Best Regards;

Dario Pellegrinetti (talk) 19:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

L. Ogorzelec entry

Hi, thanks for your comments! I have made numerous stylistic adjustments to bring the entry in line with Wikipedia requirements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandarin54 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Louisa Harland (October 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Article needs more detail in order to be accepted as a separate article from the one on Derry Girls.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
MurielMary (talk) 11:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Teahouse logo
Hello, Theroadislong! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! MurielMary (talk) 11:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Trippy

I'm not sure I understand the refusal here. I have many cited sources, including from books, and reputable sources. Does someone over at wikipedia who has something against the guy? Because this is what it's looking like at this point. I've seen hundreds of other approved posts with less sources than this article. So whats the vendetta? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.205.253 (talk) 16:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have cited IMDb, Instagram, Wikipedia and YouTube none of which are reliable sources these will need to be replaced. There is no vendetta. Theroadislong (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Draft:Kanhaiya_Lal_Kapoor

JSTOR,Dawn,and Firstpost and Rekhta and his reference in Google books are individual sources. He does not has his own website. May i know which Individual source you are referring too  ? . If its Rekhta its Urdu's website for all Urdu poets ( kanhaiyalal kapoor is one of them ). Need clarification.

Apologies to bug you again, but just wanted to check, does it look okay now ? or should i remove external links section too ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumeetworld (talk • contribs) 15:33, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing the draft. I have removed the FB and Pintrest links. Also cut down on External links and moved it to Further reading. Let me know at your convenience if it looks okay now. I can remove Further Reading section as well if its not required. Looking forward for your review. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kanhaiya_Lal_Kapoor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumeetworld (talk • contribs) 15:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Rekhta website is not independent, it is the website that publishes his ebooks, we need in-depth independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, it publishes books of all Urdu authors not specific to him. However,even if we dont consider Rekhta, arent articles or dawnn, Jstor , Firstpost and references to Google books of Literature okay ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumeetworld (talk • contribs) 17:06, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Emmanuel Cooper edit

Hi there Theroadislong,

My apologies I did not realise that my edit was inappropriate. This was my first attempt in contributing to this amazing resource.

My intention was that the book reference would be useful resource and be of value to corroborate other content. My inexperience also resulted in the positioning of the link on the page near top whereas I had thought i was adding to the reference section below.

A question of more haste less speed I guess.

Again my apologies,

Kind regards

APShanahan (talk) 18:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could add the content and then add back the source, you might find this helpful WP:REFB. Theroadislong (talk) 18:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Walton Street Capital Review

Hi!

Thanks for reviewing the article. Could you please let me know what modifications should I make to make it acceptable? Should I use different citations independent from Walton's website?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CREworld (talk • contribs) 17:44, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes three of your five sources are to their own website which doesn't help with notability, see WP:CORP for what is required. Theroadislong (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello?

Would it be possible for you to send me a "simple step by step" procedure on how to insert an external link to an other (professional, relevant, serious,...) website which wouldn't be in-line ? I really don't understand what I am reading on Wiki.

Many thanks in advance Best rtegards Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatmanSA1 (talk • contribs) 08:54, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

External links belong in there own section at the end. Theroadislong (talk) 09:03, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

help

Hi my name is Madison I recently made an article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Brice_Gelot) regarding an artist it was rejected for the reason : Not clear how he would pass WP:ARTIST.

but as you mention

Creative professionals 4. The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums

the artist is represented by notable galleries as saatchi, artsper and artsy

which additional information should I ask him or should I add ?

Regards

Madison Y. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madison.y (talk • contribs) 23:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

They would not be considered notable galleries they are merely online galleries.You should also declare your conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Leon C. Shelly

Hi there: You have declined my incomplete article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Leon_C._Shelly as a submission for review. I did not realize I had submitted it for review (and have no recollection of doing so), because I still consider it a work in progress. I would appreciate it if you would return my article to its previous, unsubmitted status. I will submit it for review when I feel that it is ready for review. Thank you! Filmhunter (talk) 03:37, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You can click the large blue "submit" button when you are ready. Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please Review Qualifacts Draft

Hey, I'm reaching out to see if you can review the draft made for Qualifacts. I submitted for review 2 months ago. Here's a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Qualifacts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Judahpedia13 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Charles S. Fuchs

Thanks so much for your review of my article. I made the changes you suggested, as well as a few others that were needed. Please let me know if there's anything I need to do next to get the article to the next phase. Thanks!-jlc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcollinsycc (talk • contribs) 19:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Richard Phelps Gough

Hello,

Thanks a lot for your answer. The link to images on commons is really relevant in this case and illustrates excatly what I am writting. Therefore would it be possible to leave these couples of links

Many thanks Regards Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatmanSA1 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you think they are relevant then you should use the actual images and not the links. Theroadislong (talk) 08:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:PK2112/sandbox

I more or less figured I need more references and I am working on that. I have a different question that I cannot seem to get any help with. There are 2 photos and one image for this article but they are not shown. I received a message saying that they violate copyrights. Well, I took the two photos myself and the other is a PC screen shot of a CAD drawing that I made myself. I do not understand how these are copyright infringements. PK2112 (talk) 16:52, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to upload any images to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page but you you would be better advised supplying some sources to your draft first. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

thank you Theroadislong, I made the suggested changes on Victoria Noel-Johnson page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billoz70 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AgensGraph

Thanks for reviewing my draft page and giving feedback. I've updated it now. I'm interested in graph databases and want to add pages for each of those that I consider broadly used and sufficiently notable to be here on Wikipedia (AgensGraph, TigerGraph, GRAKN.AI etc). Of those, I think AgensGraph is the most notable and have tried to reflect that, but as they are a Korean company, most of the writeup about them isn't in English. I've made some fixes, please could you re-review at your convenience? --Croesyceiliog (talk) 12:48, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:20:07, 10 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Madison.y


Hi there, I did have a look to the WP:ARTIST, and at the section "Creative professionals" :

4.The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums

the artist Brice Gelot (d) is represented by notable galleries as (Saatchi Los Angeles // Artsper Paris // Artsy) also (b) Brice Gelot recently had an interview for an art magazine and will be present for an exhibition in Miami for Art Basel the biggest international art fair for famous artist or new emerging artist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Basel)

Madison.y (talk) 16:20, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Being included in online galleries confers no notability, as far as I know and interviews do not count as independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:48, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I did research after your message and those art galleries are only accessible to represented artist / notorious artist / new emerging artist (art dealer / curator or art gallery themselves) : (https://help.artsper.com/hc/en-001/articles/360024354293-I-m-an-artist-Can-I-exhibit-my-work-on-Artsper-)

see also Artsy : (https://www.artsy.net/contact) // Artsy Support // HOW ARTSY WORKS

Artsy is resource for learning about and collecting art by over 100,000 artists around the world. We partner with leading galleries, museums, art fairs, and auction houses in building our online database, which currently includes over 1,000,000 artwork images, including the largest online database of contemporary art. We do not work directly with artists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madison.y (talk • contribs) 22:51, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why magazine interview doesn't count as independent sources ?

Hytale AfC

How come you said it didn't have significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject? It has 10 refs whose timeframes range between Dec'18 and Aug'19. If I created this in mainspace for a different game noone would look twice at it. Can I have a more exact reason the submission was declined?  Nixinova  T  C  18:29, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to create this in mainspace if you wish. Theroadislong (talk) 18:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

draft Richard Franklin White rejection on Julie Standell's sandbox

To reviewer Theroadislong,

I don't understand the criteria (italics) that made my page about Rick White rejected:

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

What cited resources are not acceptable for significant coverage? I did research in his hometown area, and also interviewed him via email. I also received photos and a video of the National Rock Con Fan fest's activities, that demonstrated his participation during the 3 day event.

Does Rick White need to be famous for making recordings or performance appearances that are documented and/or contained in journalist interviews, before a Wikipedia page can be created for him?

Based on what other musician entertainer's Wikipedia pages I have reviewed, prior to making this effort, I thought that my content met the same standards as theirs. The Human Beinz were a musical group that made hit records in the 1960's.

Rick White was a member of that band AFTER that time period, because the band attempted a Revival on 2005. I was told that the original member Ting Markulin authorized & approved him as a legitimate member of the band and as approved lead singer for The Human Beinz, officially. I also previewed The Human Beinz Wikipedia page & found Rick White's name listed as a member, thereby confirming his status.

I wanted to make this page to specifically show his own singing career & the story that led to him joining The Human Beinz.

Please offer some specific suggestions for me, so I can improve this page or decide to abandon it. I appreciate your review & help.


Cordially & respectfully, Julie Dugan aka Julie Standell Julie (talk) 22:07, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have ten sources none of which mention White?

Sources need to be in-depth coverage of Rick White. Theroadislong (talk) 07:30, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Sándor Köleséri

Hi

What is your problem whit this article? It's just teasing ... Wikipedia is packed with much lower quality Hungarian-related articles than the one I was editing. For example, how can this article be published? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sándor_Kömíves

A novice editor would need some help, not a continuous tease .... Marketingtanacsado (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremiah Asher

I have your message rejecting my brief article on Jeremiah Asher. I gave it another shot, adding some additional references. If it is still unacceptable I hope someone more competent will take up this task as Asher is an important figure in American (and particularly African-American) history and it seems to me that he deserves a Wikipedia entry. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeywahoo (talk • contribs) 09:15, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.

Thank you for the brutal truth. I now understand what "citations" really mean. I appreciate the time you took to explain this to me. I am a novice at this kind of thing; but I had some enthusiasm to create this for Rick White and thought it could be a partial legacy for him & his family.

Thanks again.

Julie (talk) 15:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremiah Asher

Thank you for guiding me through the process of getting this entry published. Here is a link to a photograph of Jeremiah Asher. Adding it to the entry seems to be beyond my ability at this point. Thanks. http://www.civilwarbaptists.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/asher_jeremiah.jpg Joeywahoo (talk) 18:48, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where we stand on copyright for this, I have only uploaded photographs I have taken myself so far, where copyright is very clear. Theroadislong (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:18:13, 12 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Illbadler


I disagree with your decision to delete my revised draft of an entry on Steven "Akili" Walker


Friend,

Thanks for reviewing the revised version of my article on Steven "Akili" Walker.

Your main comment was that "discogs and allmusic are not reliable sources" -- which was what the first editor said when s/he rejected it. I accepted that criticism, which is why this revised version doesn't cite discogs a single time. It does, however, cite Billboard magazine frequently, which is a reliable source, as well as the New York Times.

I agree, however, with the broader complaint that the references in the revised version "do not show 'significant' coverage." I submit, though, that this lack of in-depth coverage is an occupational hazard for an audio engineer, whose work occurs very much behind the scenes. For the sake of counter-balance, I noted a number of the prominent artists on whose recordings Akili worked over the course of 30 years, all of whom have Wikipedia articles devoted to them. They include Jimmy Cliff, Humble Pie, Ahmad Jamal, the Mighty Sparrow, LL Cool J, Bootsy Collins, Jimmy Spicer, Lovebug Starski, The Fat Boys, Onyx, Lester Bowie, and the Art Ensemble of Chicago.

This is a roster of Hall of Fame musicians. I hope you'll reconsider your decision to reject this submission.

Illbadler (talk) 20:18, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Illbadler (talk) 20:18, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Illbadler I didn't say it should be deleted? I declined it because it's sources were not sufficient to pass WP:GNG. You appear to have two drafts on the same page too, courtesy link Draft:Steven Walker (sound engineer) Notability is not inherited I'm afraid, Wikipedia requires there to be in-depth coverage of HIM in multiple reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 21:38, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re your most recent comment: I understand that at first you were confused. Then I directed you to the most recent draft of my article on Akili Walker. I wondered if you'd changed your mind about rejecting the article once you saw that I'd replaced all of the citations from discogs.come with citations from Billboard. As best as I can tell, your reply was to inform me that you'd been confused because I'd posted both versions one after the other. But you offered no assessment of the revised version of the article. Sorry, but have I missed something? Illbadler (talk) 20:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to remove the first draft and make it clear what is to be reviewed. Eleven of the sources are to Allmusic, these confer no notability at all and should be removed, there are large parts which are still unsourced where did the info come from? Theroadislong (talk) 20:27, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Billboard sources are just passing mentions eg. engineered by Walker, Wikipedia requires the coverage to be in-depth and detailed. Theroadislong (talk) 20:36, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Enguage rejection... help?

Hi, Firstly, thanks for getting back so quickly, some of the instructions suggested it may take 8 weeks, or so. And apologies, I'm new to editing Wikipedia pages (as you've probably guessed!) - I'm not even sure if this is the right channel to get back to you?

Is it possible to help me with your comments on my article?

I don't doubt that my writing style might not match the style required in an encyclopedia, this is my first page. Most of my writing is academic, which I guess isn't a suitable style for an encyclopedic entry - I'm not presenting literature reviews, original research etc. I'm hoping to learn!

But, your comment that it is an 'advert' is a little vague, in that it isn't a commercial product. Enguage is open source software. Is /is/ the case that Enguage won the BSC SGAI Machine Intelligence Competition in 2016, which should make it notable, and I've included links to verify this. So, at what point does it become an advert? I certainly haven't used judgemental language/superlatives (e.g. "this is the greatest..." etc), and all claims are verifiable.

In my defence, I have included a COI marker, even though I do not receive any money from Enguage - it's not a 'product', as such.

Is there a 'starting point' where it goes wrong? Should I have started with a shorter article? Or do you not like the whole thing? I've tried to model my page on "Cucumber (Software)", but because my system programs in natural language it's not a run of the mill software program.

One of the problems with Enguage is that it is complex, and in explaining one thing drags a whole load of other things in.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Martin.

MartinWheatman (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 

The couple of links to images (downloaded by myself) on Commons, which I used are extremly relevant for the article. Do you mind if I keep them?

Best regards Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatmanSA1 (talk • contribs) 08:49, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a question of whether I mind or not, we just don't normally do it. Theroadislong (talk) 08:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment.

Hi Theroadislong, thank you for the comments on Draft:International Council of Voluntary Agencies. I have attempted to resolve your comment by removing external links in the body of text and by making the language seem more neutral. I do believe that the organisation is notable and important enough to have its article on Wikipedia, and would appreciate any further help getting it approved. MrVertigo (talk) 09:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Enguage rejection... help?

I've updated the page - drastically reducing the length. Ironically(?), it has removed more of the non-self references. Removing self-references seems to be worthless, as it sounds as if I'm scuppered in writing about anything that I've done, whether it involves any references at all? I'm going to resubmit, but with a little less hope ;-)

What are my options? Can I request that someone writes a page? Can I submit a stub (I think that what it is called as it nowstands) and hope someone takes up the challenge? If I simply asked one of my colleagues to author a page on Enguage, surely it too would mean that they would have a conflict of interest?

Cheers, martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinwheatman (talk • contribs) 12:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally you would wait until someone totally uninvolved wrote the article, using secondary, independent published sources only. Wikipedia is not a venue for announcing new things or original research. Theroadislong (talk) 13:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Marc Nicholls: Rejected Wiki

Hello!!! I was curious about the rejection of my Wikipedia article. You said it was due to the lack of "notability" in the sources. I am confused as to what the difference between the sources I used and the sources used for Chris Little's Wikipedia page (they work together, and we used a lot of similar sources). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Little How can mine be better?

Thanks for reading and for taking the time to review the Wiki article :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Callynicholls (talk • contribs) 00:35, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "we"? user accounts are for single person use only. Theroadislong (talk) 07:10, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Artist meets WP:ARTIST

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michelle_Lisa_Herman,_Artist

  1. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work.
  • Artist worked on permanent installation "The Indigo Room" by Eduoard Duval-Carrie as a collaborator [1]
  1. ...work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
  • Artist has had work critically reviewed by The Washington Post 4 times and was reviewed by the national art news outlet Hyperallergic
  1. been a substantial part of a significant exhibition
  • Herman was invited to be part of the Washington Project for the Arts 40th Anniversary Exhibition which gained national coverage [2]
Notability is not inherited and I am not convinced that she passes, but you are free to move it to mainspace and let it take it's chance with any subsequent WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 07:09, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Noel-Johnson review

Hi, could you please review my changes on the subject? Thanks a lot.

--Billoz70 (talk) 13:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "4 Days". Tropical Fete Inc. Tropical Fete Inc. Retrieved 15 October 2019. {{cite web}}: |first1= missing |last1= (help); Text "Art Exhibits" ignored (help); Text "Get your tickets!" ignored (help); Text "Indie Films" ignored (help); Text "Music" ignored (help); Text "Workshops" ignored (help)
  2. ^ Carrigan, Margaret. "A Washington, DC, Nonprofit Reflects on 40 Years of Championing Local Artists". Hyperallergic. Hyperallergic. Retrieved 15 October 2019.
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