Talk:Calliphora vomitoria

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Good Article

Currently trying to bring up this article to GA status, and would appreciate the help of other editors! Many thanks to the editors that have already made edits to my additions. Y.shiuan (talk) 04:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review

I did not find too many problems with the article! Very clearly worded and understandable. The edits I made mainly consisted of cleaning up sentence structure and hyperlinking additional terms.

I believe the last sentence of your description (Similar species include the greenbottle fly, a close relative that can be distinguished by its bright green metallic coloring.) needs a citation. Additionally, your sentence in the “egg” subsection of the “life cycle” section needs a citation.

andrewoh29 (talk) 21:26, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One of the first things that caught my attention in this article was the great use of photos throughout the article. One of the changes I made was a rephrasing of the description of this fly in the introduction section. I also swapped out some of the words used so that the sentence structure was more grammatically correct. I think that you should be providing more citations in the introductory paragraph, or also including links to some of the terms used, such as oviposition. I think there is great room for improving your life cycle section as I think the current information you have in your article is very broad and could be the case for a large number of organisms in the Diptera order. I moved your subheading “Stages of Decay” up from under the heading titled “Food Resources”, because I didn’t think these were really related to each other. I think that this subheading was better fitted under the life cycle section. Another detail I changed was lowercasing all of the terms after the first word of each heading, in order to keep this pattern consistent throughout the article. One last suggestion I have is in regard to the captions under each picture in your featured photo gallery. I think that including the source of the photo, as well as being a bit more thorough in your description of what is happening in each picture, rather than being colloquial, could serve as one more enhancement to your article’s overall appearance. An interesting section of this article was the Forensics subheading, in which you elaborate on how Calliphora vomitoria behaviors actually contribute largely to human studies and examinations of forensics. This was really cool. lelandra

Behavioral Ecology Comment

For my Behavioral Ecology class, we are reviewing Wikipedia articles on flies in the order Diptera, and I read this article for one of my pages. The entry goes through a brief description of the life cycle of the blue bottle fly and has several closeup images of the fly in the “Gallery” section. The blue bottle fly can sometimes cause human/animal myiasis, and the female fly lays her eggs in decaying substances (where she feeds). The article is concise and has nice visuals, but there are several components that could be added to improve the article’s completeness, such as sections on the fly's ecology/habitat, evolution, and biology. RappaiT (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As the writing expert for this class, I recommended and fixed a few key parts of this article. I changed the spacing between sections, took information out of parentheses and put it into complete sentences, and fixed some grammatical and tense issues. Overall, this article is well written and has good information.Hannahwhite97 (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mage Move

I have moved the page from Blue bottle fly to Blue Bottle Fly as it looked messy before and other creature have capital titles Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 10:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, but now it stands out among the insects for having a capitalised name. Our guidelines are for arthropods not to be capitalised. --Stemonitis (talk) 08:06, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two problems with this article

1. The blue bottle fly is also the common name given to Protophormia terraenovae, which may mean either that this article contains incorrect information or at least needs to be disambiguated.
2. There is already a more in-depth article on the species Calliphora vicina. Does that render this page redundant?

I'd be happy to fix this article if I knew anything about fly biology, but I don't. 70.129.149.116 (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For (2), it turns out someone changed the species name here from C. vomitoria to C. vicina, so that's probably why you thought we had two different articles on the same fly species. For (1) that's probably a good idea too. howcheng {chat} 09:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Feeding habits

In the introduction it is stated:

   Blue bottle fly adults feed on nectar

whereas the Life Style section has:

   A female blue bottle fly lays her eggs where she feeds, usually in decaying meat ...

which seems inconsistent? quota (talk) 08:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A female bluebottle requires a protein meal (meat) for her ovaries to develop and her to become fertile. Many flying insects, including female blow flies require a high sugar diet to provide the energy for flight. Thus they eat more than one thing depending upon their requirements.

A Separate Page for Calliphora vomitoria

This article has been written as if the term blue bottle fly was synonymous with Calliphora vomitoria. This is incorrect: C. vicina has just as much right to be called a blue bottle fly as is C. vomitoria, and there are probably several other species of Calliphoridae from around the world for which the same could be said. Also, the term 'blue bottle fly' is relatively fuzzy (how greenish does the blue have to be before it becomes a green bottle fly?) while, in comparison, Calliphora vomitoria is relatively precisely defined. Conflating the two terms on the same page is only likely to confuse readers.

It would be much better for Calliphora vomitoria to have its own page and for the Blue bottle fly page to clearly list some of the species (C. vomitoria, C. vicina, at least) that are regarded as blue bottle flies.

TristramBrelstaff (talk) 02:14, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images Incorrect

2 of the images at bottom of article appear to be Green bottle, ( Lucilia sericata going on Occiptal Setae), so should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.70.176 (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The images to the side and at the bottom are both Calliphora vicina. Spot the pale basicosta in the top image and lack of orange bristles behind the jowls in the bottom image.

Etymology

Clearly the "blue" part refers to the insect's colour, but where does "bottle" come from? Zacwill16 (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"bottle" is cockney rhyming slang for "arse", via "bottle and glass". "Blue bottle" refers to the iridescent abdomen. Paul Murray (talk) 04:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Calliphora vomitoria/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

== Blue Arsed Fly? == I actually got to the article by searching for blue arsed fly - I was looking for the origins of the expression, and while I suppose this answered my question it makes no reference to the very common idiom which is derived from this creature's frantic pace. Perhaps a footnote or a link to a page on slang? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.102.44.13 (talk) 01:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 01:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 19:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Name

Is "blue bottle fly" a common name for this insect? I've only ever heard it called a "blue bottle" (which would imply that per Wikipedia convention the article should be "Blue bottle (fly)") Iapetus (talk) 15:29, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 November 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blue bottle fly → Calliphora vomitoria – Imprecise; other calliphorids are also known as blue bottles/blue bottle flies, such as Calliphora vicina, Protophormia terraenovae, and possibly others. — Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 16:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hyperik: so then Blue bottle fly should become a disambiguation or set list? --Nessie (talk) 15:36, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree with Plantdrew to just redirect it to Calliphoridae. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 04:35, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support, and redirect blue bottle fly (and variants) to Calliphoridae. Plantdrew (talk) 16:53, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support, and redirect per Plantdrew's comment above. Aoba47 (talk) 22:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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