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Please do the following when posting on my page(I will ignore your comment if you don't follow these simple rules):

1) Post new sections at the bottom of the page.

2) PLEASE LINK TO YOUR ARTICLE, I go through a myriad of pages a day, I won't know what you're talking about unless you link your article.

3) Please don't request me to re-review your article unless I've specifically asked you to do so. AfC is incredibly backlogged and someone will get to it when they can.

I welcome anyone to comment or reply to others on my page, but please be kind and if their post breaks one of the above three rules, please ignore them as well.


2022 Ohio gubernatorial race

I submitted it again with including the mayor of Dayton, Nan Whaley, and more references. You declined the article for being too soon, however other articles of this are present with other states with even less information are up. Your reason is valid, but Cranley ((Cincinnati Mayor) will most likely announce his full candidacy soon. Other people have made their own articles with less information which is why I am asking for this one to be made. Sksksks hydroflask, Sksksks hydroflask added 12:34, March 2nd, 2020 (EST)

Link for Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vinu_Kolichal

Submission declined on 29 February 2020 by Sulfurboy (talk). This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. If you would like to continue working on the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you have not resolved the issues listed above, your draft will be declined again and potentially deleted. If you need extra help, please ask us a question at the AfC Help Desk or get live help from experienced editors. Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. Where to get help How to improve your article Editor resources Declined by Sulfurboy 30 hours ago. Last edited by Filmfanatic28 9 hours ago. Reviewer: Inform author. This draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Curvature_Renormalization_Group_Method

Dear Sulfurboy, Can you please answer to my question and elaborate on your rejection of my article when you say "This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter."? What more context do I need to write? I see many pages on technical topics that simply refer to other articles for a more general description of the field. I would like to avoid duplicating what's already written on pages like "topologically ordered systems". Thank you. Here is the link to the page: 

PaoloMolignini (talk) 13:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PaoloMolignini, If you see other pages that don't provide proper context, feel free to tag them with the appropriate maintenance tags. What we're specifically looking for as at a minimum a one or two line quip at the beginning of the article that provides context to the uninitiated reader. That is, imagine a friend ask you about this subject and has zero knowledge of it...how do you explain it? When this is done, feel free to tag me so I can re-review and most likely approve it. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sulfurboy, I have updated the article with more contextual information at the beginning. Please let me know if this is ok or if I should add more. Cheers, PaoloMolignini (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Mary Jane Warfield and Her Significance.

Hello! I recently began a page about Mary Jane Warfield and I want to personally make the case to you why she is a notable figure, not just a wife or mistress of a house. If you're not familiar with Kentucky history, I can understand why it's hard to imagine how prominent the Clay family is. Well, you might recognize the names Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser, or Cassius Clay, the Kentucky abolitionist, but you might not recognize the phenomenal women who also contributed to society in a meaningful manner. Laura Clay, the daughter of Mary Jane, was inspired by the bitter divorce of Mary Jane and Cassius to advocate for women's equality in the 19th century. Again, the 19th century, in Kentucky!! Mary Jane would canvass the streets of Lexington to recruit women to support women's suffrage. Susan B. Anthony mourned her death in 1900, citing her as a major inspiration.

I also view this Wikipedia page as a defense against the memory that was perpetrated by Cassius. Cassius called her a cold, spiteful woman. He blamed their divorce on her and deprived her of any property from the marriage, and if you remember from my article, she was the primary caretaker while he was carrying on affairs in Russia. She raised 80,000 dollars with her businesses to pay off Cassius's debts and helped her family not just survive, but thrive. She ran a business as essentially a single mother for two decades in a time where women were thought to be the weaker sex and in need of help for the most simple tasks. So her actions do warrant a page. If her husband, a man who advocated for the freedom of slaves, but kept slaves himself, and who married a 15-year-old girl while he was in his 80s, has a page, then the woman that kept his family and his name alive also deserves a page. Mary Jane Warfield is an example of exceptional grit and perseverance and can serve as an inspirational figure for many southern women.

I will continue to work on Mary Jane's page in hopes of having it published. Thank you for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 13:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleigh King, None of anything that you just said has anything to do with the standards we use to establish notability. I would recommend reading the guidelines provided in the decline messages to learn what needs to be done to establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi again Sulferboy! I have continued my educational journey into the life of Ms. Mary Jane Warfield, the Lionness of White Hall, if you will (a small joke because Cassius was called the Lion of White Hall. No known historians actually called her that to be clear:)) My research certainly did not disappoint! She has shown to be an instrumental force in the passage of the Married Woman's Property Act of 1894, which protected women from economic exploitation. She remained an energetic presence within the suffrage movement up until her death in 1900. She truly shows the influential actions taken by Kentucky women that further the rights and protections of women across the south in the 19th century. I hope you enjoy the additions to the article as well as more primary resources. Thank you and have a lovely day! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mary_Jane_Warfield Ashleigh King — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 22:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_J._Smith_(artist)

Sulfurboy--thanks so much for the very personal response. I agree with your critique of the article, am trying to locate other articles that appeared in the Houston Chronicle, WSJ, and the Austin Statesman. It must be a headache to handle all the new page reviews. Hopefully my article wasn't _too_ riddled with errors. Thanks again, your Texas cheerleading is most appreciated. :)

Request on 06:40:56, 3 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by GiedreCasaite


If my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Public_Anthropologist can't be published due to the lack of notability, why for example this draft is published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matatu_(journal) with less information and lack of notability as well?


GiedreCasaite (talk) 06:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GiedreCasaite, You're welcome to nominate that page for deletion if you wish. I didn't make/approve/perform edits on that page at all so I'm not sure why you're asking me. You should focus on your own article instead of attempting to bring others down and I'd advise reading WP:INN as well. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Writing about a company

Hi, I am trying to write an article about an architecture company UArchitects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects) but it is declined more than once. I have seen some articles on wikipedia with same format with a list of company awards for example CEBRA. Can you kindly tell me how I can publish this article without making it sound like an advertisement? And how can I list the data about the company's awards and projects? Thank you for your help.--Meimaar.93 (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meimaar.93, The entire article is basically a menagerie of the companies (mostly non-notable) awards. That's not what wikipedia is for and that is not what makes for a formal, neutral article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Yehiel Gozal

Hi there, I saw what you wrote but I dont really understand... there are 7 References and 5 Links, also there is the Hebrew version. The whole thing is just to add more cites? there are many many more.. Thanks, Dovlib19 (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]

New page for Diamond Guitar Pedals

Hey, thanks for reviewing my submission for a Diamond Pedals Wikipedia page. I will add more links to external sources, but I note that the article currently has similar references as other boutique guitar pedal manufactures, such as Wampler Pedals and Keeley Electronics, which are very similar companies. I would appreciate and advice you might be able to give, since I really do think Diamond warrants a Wikipedia page.

Many Thanks! Matthewasears (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wingsuit BASE jumping

This article Draft:Wingsuit BASE jumping was declined because there is already a section in "Wingsuit flying" about "Wingsuit BASE": Wingsuit_flying#Wingsuit_BASE. However, wingsuit BASE jumping is a sub-discipline of wingsuit flying. Wingsuit skydiving is not the same as wingsuit BASE. And there is a huge amount of detail and content in the new article that is missing from the more general "wingsuit flying" article.

My goal was to reduce the content in the "wingsuit flying" article abount BASE, and move it to the new article here. Is that not okay? I believe wingsuit BASE jumping is notable on it's own, there are 100s of articles and papers about Wingsuit BASE specifically to support it's own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWingsuit (talk • contribs) 16:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiWingsuit, You need to create an article that goes much more in depth than what is already available on the aforementioned mainspace article. The content on the article you submitted was not enough more yet to justify its own article. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RE: William Cooper (Record Producer)

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:William_Cooper_(Record_Producer)

Thank you kindly for your response.

After your initial response, I agreed that the references should be updated. And I updated the article title for disambiguation. I apologize if I did anything ham-fisted. Its simply because I post so rarely.

I only update Wikipedia when I have something to say. The tools built in are useful and powerful, however since I only add occasionally, I end up doing an hour or two of coding. Which is fine, I think it works for me and I am willing to learn it better. I am an expert in this particular article's subject, but not an expert at Wikipedia. But I am trying.

I also realize the discography its not entirely referenced. However, I can indeed link every release to a discogs.com page. They do exist and the dates and personnel are correct. I see many other artists on Wikipedia have a secondary page for discographies, but since William Cooper is not on wikipedia yet (except for references in other articles already published) I don't know how to place the discography on a secondary page like other artists. I am happy to delete the discography and once the main article is published I can create the secondary article with a table more in line with what most other music artists have listed.

Please let me know if you want me to link each release to a discogs.com page or nuke the entire discography from this article. I am happy to update as needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentle Jones (talk • contribs) 19:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gentle Jones, I again advise you to read the links already provided. Discogs is not a reliable source. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article content is authorized, I am the Finance Director of the organization

Good evening Mr. Sulfurboy,

I please request you contemplate the approval of the article since we want to have presence in Wikipedia as we think it would be important for our community. El Centro Hispano has consistently proven its worth to the community of Arkansas as a whole and would be greatly benefited by this appearance on such a reputable online encyclopedia.

I thank you for your time and consideration,

Kind regards,

Leandro Braslavsky El Centro Hispano Finance Director

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:El_Centro_Hispano_en_Arkansas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leandrob1 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leandrob1, We don't include subjects just because it would benefit that subject. We also highly discourage people associated with a subject from writing about it. You will need to read and follow all of our policies closely if you insist on continuing to create this article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will. Thanks for your time and your advise.

Leandro Leandrob1 (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your declining on a draft I created

Hi, I saw you recently declined my draft Draft:Garissone Innocent. I replied to you on that page, but:

  1. you kind of misunderstood me;
  2. I have a feeling that it is not the right place for replying.

Therefore, I've visited your talk page to clarify myself.

When I replied to your comment, I meant that it's quite likely that the subject would be notable in a few years (possibly 1 or 2). (I guess you understood that part.) But I wasn't asking for you to accept it right away. Rather, I meant that since Innocent would "probably" be notable soon, I'd like to know if you think that this draft should be listed as "promising". After all, I have a few other drafts to work on, and given my workload it seems likely that it might be deleted under G13. Besides, adding it to the category Promising drafts brings them to more people's attention (at least for me ;) ), so I'd like to ask if you agree to placing this "promising draft" tag on the draft. Thanks! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 05:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Lord of Math, You can add whatever tag you want to to the article, its your article. However, this doesn't guarantee against it not being deleted in six months Sulfurboy (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sulfurboy: I guess you didn't understand how {{promising draft}} works. The thing is, it should not be placed by the page author, and if it is placed it would postpone G13 deletion. So I'm here to ask you if you'd agree that the topic is "promising" and if you would place that template on the draft. Thanks, and I hope I've made myself clearer! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Lord of Math, No interest. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:08, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

‪Commelina ciliata

And thank you for taking interest in an obscure Australian plant! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commelina_ciliata MerielGJones (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not being paid

I am not being paid. GriffinTGA (talk) 12:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there

Hello can you please check the article you reviewed Daft:Fredokiss i saw your the reason posted and i have improve and edited. Thank you waiting for your review. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My bad i meant Draft:Fredokiss Mwnive5 (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fredokiss is one of the mojor artist in africa malawi including Gwamba taygrin am here to help Wikipedia by contributing africa artist articles as you suggested i have improve the article and ready to start another one just waiting for your approval thank you. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scarlett Sabet Wiki Page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Scarlett_Sabet

Hi there.

I have never ignored or bypassed this as the previous edit comment suggests, I disclosed in one of my earliest edits that I was writing on behalf of the company I work for - I do concede that I may have done it incorrectly, though, so thank you for clearing that up for me. My page is now suitably updated with the disclosure.

Does this mean the now heavily media-sourced article is suitably updated, or is there anything else I need to add or change to meet the Wikipedia guidelines? Given that Scarlett is referenced as the official partner of Jimmy Page on his page, as well as in numerous publications for her contributions to the poetry world, it seems that claims that she is unsuitable for her own page are unfounded.

I understand that you must do a lot of editing and that this can be a tiresome, fruitless labour at times, so thank you for your contributions to making Wikipedia an accurate and informative place and for your patience with my edits. Do let me know if there are still errors to amend.

Best, Megan — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeganThomas94 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MeganThomas94You have not properly disclosed on the draft page. The article is also still riddled with unreliable sources. If you truly are thankful for my "tiresome, fruitless labour" then please make a point of actually reading our policies instead of making contributions even more tiresome and fruitless. Or better yet, cease entirely your edits on the subject, and cease the unethical paid for editing as you have an inherent bias and conflict of interest.Sulfurboy (talk) 15:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What qualifies as reference???

04 Mar. 2020 I'm new. Maybe I'm missing something. I wrote an article on an historically significant subject using six published newspaper references and the article was rejected for lack of authentication. Many of the incidents cited are 100 years old. It is not a well publicized event. Newspaper articles are about the only documentation that exists. I'm at a loss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barbara_Fritchie_Classic_Motorcycle_Race

Zook — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.30.109 (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem isn't with the sources already provided, the problem is that there's no shown coverage that isn't just WP:LOCAL

Redirect to my recently made article Fjärilar i magen (Darin album)

Hello! I recently made a page for the studio album Fjärilar i magen (Darin album), but did not realize that it existed a redirect already to, what I believe is, the Darin Zanyar page. I don't know if I did something wrong making that article now, and I was just wondering if there is a way to redirect from the page to my article instead. I will look deeper for redirects the next time I make an article, unfortunately I noticed it too late this time. I wanted to make the article since there were only articles for his English albums, which I found pretty unfortunate. Thanks in advance! Zandor (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DariuZzandor, I've requested the redirect to be removed so that the album page can be put in place. Just keep an eye out for when an admin deletes it and I can help get this moved into place. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I would like to make an article for the album "Tvillingen" by him also, but since it also redirects to Darin Zanyar, is there anything I must do before creating the article? I don't want to give you more work than you already have so I would like to help out as much as I possibly can. Thank you again! Zandor (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DariuZzandor, You can always check with me. I don't mind that. However, I've been known to without warning disappear for years, so I might not be the most reliable outlet. In which case, you can always go to the Teahouse for help. The Teahouse is also a great outlet for anything Wikipedia related that you might need help with. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I understand :) I appreciate that you take the time to help me, I'm new to creating articles so your tips are very helpful. We'll see if I get enough information to make the article about "Tvillingen", is it okay if I get back to you If that happens and we can see if you want/ have the time to help me with it? I will check out the Treehouse also, for sure. Zandor (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Cop/Bad Cop - Not adequately supported by reliable sources.

Dear Sulfurboy, since this is my first submission I obviously trust your opinion and judgment, and I'm sorry to have sent twice an article that was very similar to its first version (in fact I had just add two more links as a ref) but the few changes I've made were done following two very similar articles related two other two bands with similar timing and coverage than the one I'm trying to add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masked_Intruder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bombpops) I am telling this just to properly understand at which point the source became reliable and enough "strong" if you can make me a parallel example so that I can clearly understand. Thanks for your help and patience in this matter. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paiskurt (talk • contribs) 19:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paiskurt, I would recommend reading the articles linked to you. It should become very apparent and clear afterwards what are and aren't considered reliable along with what is required for notability. I'm not sure why you are pointing out the other two articles to me. I didn't approve them or make any edits to them. If you feel they do not follow wikipedia policy, you are welcome to nominate them for nomination. See also WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 19:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sulfurboy, Thanks again fro your reply, I did read the article and at point 5) says "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)" which both the band and the label, Fat Wreck Chords, seems to me to respect this criteria. Thank you also for the other article linked it made me clear other aspects. Paiskurt (talk) 21:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Paiskurt, I'm going to fix the article enough so that it passes our guidelines. I grew up listening to NOFX and have loved them and Fat Mike for decades now, so I think 16 year old me would be disappointed if I didn't. With that being said, although this will be approved and hit mainspace, I'm going to tag it with some things that you need to do to improve the article further. The biggest one being is that this article hinges almost entirely on primary sources. You will need to add secondary sources, (news coverage) before that tag can be removed. For your edification in future articles you may create, the reason you were being declined (if you re-read the decline notice), is not because the subject wasn't notable, but instead because the provided sources didn't prove that notability. Make sure this is done in the future. You're going to see me make some edits coming up. I would recommend not editing it until its on mainspace and you get a notice saying that the article has been reviewed on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sulfurboy, thank you very much, sincerely, for your help and patience, I will look for that (or those) secondary sources in order to improve the quality of the article along with more info and an image, again thanks. Paiskurt (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

regarding review

Hi. Thank you for reviewing my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ine_Back_Iversen I'm sorry it could not be approved and i am trying to correct it, but i am having trouble finding the area of the article that is problematic. Ive connected to the wiki help chat to have other editors look at it and they couldn't see see the mistake wither so i would love to connect with you and see what i can do to get it approved.

Terminalbud (talk) 19:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terminalbud, The reason is clearly outlined in the decline message. Inline citations are required of all claims made in a biography of a living person. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

Hello, Sulfurboy

Thank you for creating Bad Cop/Bad Cop.

User:Sulfurboy, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

You're good to go now. Feel free to edit the page as you wish. I'll keep it on my watchlist, but ping me if anyone gives you trouble about notability concerns.

To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Sulfurboy}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ .

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Sulfurboy (talk) 21:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No undisclosed payments

I am not being paid in any form. GriffinTGA (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 22:01:54, 4 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito



Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Please I Need of help The adminitrators Of Wikpedia no accept The Page Draft:Masha's Tales I want This In wikipedia Like a Articule again And The Page Will changed the Name For Draft Help Me SAFESUBST

I Need of help

I Need help because Of Draft:Masha's Tales I Want my article Back Please. Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:04, 4 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito (talk • contribs)

Rejection of Draft: Allegheny International Services

Thank you for reviewing my article submission draft Allegheny International Services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Allegheny_International_Services. You had declined the article, citing lack of notable sources and insufficient coverage. I spent a lot of time yesterday correcting those issues and even found a noteworthy reference (Forbes Magazine) that I had missed before. I revised and resubmitted, but my second submission was rejected and called "essentially an advertisement." I hadn't noticed my non-neutral sounding language in my draft before, but upon review, I corrected those items. How can I get my article reconsiderd? I've spent a lot of time and I think it does meet the criteria now. I would really appreciate any advice. Thank you. Tina Rosco (talk) 22:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Tina Rosco[reply]

Tina RoscoThe article has been rejected which means the submission will not be considered any further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

I hope you like cats.

Tina Rosco (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Declined Draft: Anomalie

Hello. You recently declined my draft submission for the artist 'Anomalie' and I am wondering exactly what you feel needs to be done for this draft to be accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Anomalie&action=submit

The previous editor to deny the draft commented saying I had not indicated which musical notability criteria was satisfied. I asked editors on live chat how exactly to fix this and their response was that they actually thought my references (especially Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303 Magazine) were viable in satisfying the first criterion for musical notability. They further suggested I reach out to the editor find out what they want, which I did. The editor responded that if other editors thought the criterion was satisfied that I should indicate so in an afc comment, which I also did (perhaps I failed to do so in a standard, expected way?).

We now come to the point where you have denied my resubmission with the afc comment indicating the satisfaction of musical notability; and so I ask you, what is it about the draft that you felt warranted a denial? What must I do at this juncture to get the draft approved?

Thank you for any clarity you can provide.

Afunk45 (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Afunk45, responded on draft page Sulfurboy (talk) 00:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for responding. I would like to discuss your statements on Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303. "Voir" is a very reputable cultural magazine in Quebec, "The Jerusalem Post" is a large newspaper in Israel, and "303" is a large print magazine circulated through Denver, Colorado. I have also had editors on IRC analyze my sources and tell me that they deem them viable. Does the reputability of each of these sources really not convince you of their viability? Thank you for understanding that I want to fully understand - as I have received mixed messages about my sources. I implore you to please re-consider them as they truly are reputable. Also, I believe I made necessary edits to sound more neutral, per your request - thank you for pointing this out to me as well.Afunk45 (talk) 02:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Afunk45, You're completely missing the point here. First 303 is distributed by a media marketing company, it isn't reliable as we cannot determine what articles were and were not paid for. And I never disputed that JP and Voir are reliable sources, the issue is the articles are primary as they are interviews. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Krishi Sanskriti page

Thank you. I tried to edit the page and add sources. Because I'm a Wikipedia novice, I find the editing somewhat difficult. In any case, if this does not fit the Wikipedia requirements, so be it. The sole reason, I did it was to let scholars and students know about yet another predatory conference and publishers. Best wishes Gek23 aka Gregory Kersten — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gek23 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gek23 (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC) Talk Krishi Sanskriti > Sulfurboy (talk) 03:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC) wrote: "Wikipedia is not a place to push your agenda against something." I'm sorry Sulfurboy. It seems that you read my explanation, which also had nothing to do with my agenda not the page. I'm not pushing anything but telling about yet another scam. The purpose was to give potential readers useful (I think) information. No need to reply, Sulfurboy, as I will not continue this exercise. Best wishes, Gek23[reply]

Request on 01:20:33, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Drkab



Drkab (talk) 01:20, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Sulferboy,

First of all thanks for your quick response to editing the article I have been working on, Taylor Bailey and for letting me know why it was rejected - - basically because he was not a notable sports figure. After reviewing the criteria, I think that he now qualifies since he has started and played in a professional game. Wikipedia has a page for the National Independent Soccer Association, which is recognized as a professional soccer league.

Below are references for the NISA page and some sources that verify Taylor Bailey's play in the game between the Oakland Roots and Chattanooga FC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Independent_Soccer_Association The National Independent Soccer Association (NISA) is a professional men's soccer league in the United States. The league is in the third tier of American soccer and began play in 2019.

Verification of Taylor Bailey starting/playing for the Oakland Roots.

https://blog.sfgate.com/soccer/2020/02/29/late-strike-earns-oakland-roots-point-in-season-opener/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqe-YUh2EW4&t=50s

https://wdef.com/2020/02/29/cfc-draws-oakland-first-pro-match/

Does this meet the criteria?

Thanks for your help and patience. As you can probably tell, this is my first time writing/editing a page for Wikipedia.

Any additional comments would be welcomed.

Unfortunately no, a list of leagues that are considered fully professional under WP:NFOOTY standard can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues. If you disagree with this, you can propose a change to their policy. Until then, that's what I have to follow. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches

Lead questions

Hi,

I would like an opinion on the "lead". Should I try and pull in material from the transcluding page Yoshinobu Launch Complex to construct the lead for List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches?

Or compose a new lead?

Also, I want to figure out the function of the <noinclude>[[topic]]</noinclude><includeonly>topic</includeonly> that my model page used.


Perhaps it prevents recursive inclusion in the server's page composition?


Any pointers on this magic?

My path to the "List" new page

I recently created List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches as a transcluded page to improve a page Yoshinobu Launch Complex which itself was tagged with {{Update|date=January 2010}} 10 years ago, in January 2010.

I got into tranclusion with List of judges of the Supreme Court of Norfolk Island and a User request (a court clerk's request) to update information in Supreme_Court_of_Norfolk_Island#Judges (which turned out to be a transcluded page). This page's lead uses a bit of wiki magic at the top:

<!-- This article is transcluded in the main article Supreme Court of Norfolk Island. Changes made here will appear in that article. The almost almost duplication of the main article name to ensure the wikilink appears in this list and not in the main article --> The Judges of the <noinclude>[[Supreme Court of Norfolk Island]]</noinclude><includeonly>Supreme Court of Norfolk Island</includeonly> are generally appointed from among Justices of the [[Federal Court of Australia|Federal Court]] who may sit on the Australian mainland or they may convene the court on Norfolk Island depending on the type of matter they may be dealing with.

I've been using this as a, hopefully, good model.

Additional citations for verification

As a new page, List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches has nowhere near the cites of a page like List of Satish Dhawan Space Centre launches. It does, though, have a good source for all the launches listed as

"JAXA | Launch Records". JAXA | Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency. Retrieved 2020-02-24.

. This is a Wikipedia:SECONDARY source right? Also per WP:V,

To be sure, there are many websites in which you can have confidence: mainstream newspapers, refereed electronic journals, and university, library, and government collections of data.

.

Does that mean the JAXA source meets criteria for verifiability as a secondary source for the contents of the table?

Each of the launches has further JAXA information linked from there. For the future filling out of citations, most launches have, and will have, English news articles about the mission(s). At this point, the source web page combines launches from multiple facilities including the ESA/CNES Guiana Space Centre.

So what kind of sources of additional citations would be best?

Thanks for your time and help!

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lent, If you're relying on one source for all the launches, I would just put something at the top like "this list is sourced from x". As for the lead, it doesn't matter where you get it from as long as it's not a copyright violation (so other parts of wikipedia is fine), I'm just more concerned with their being a lead than anything else. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've put in a lead and a paraphrased version of your suggestion. Thanks! --Lent (talk) 09:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion on proposed tables on stable sorting

Hi,

As you have a history of constructive comments like, User_talk:Sulfurboy/Archive/2013/October#Unique_Flavor, I was wondering if would look at this proposed example of tables I've put together. The Talk:Sorting_algorithm#Static_Stable_sorting_tables_with_dividers table as a sample in part of Talk:Sorting_algorithm#How_is_this_stable_sort_example? for eventual inclusion the topic stable sorting.


While I really wanted an interactive example, as I put together over at User:Lent/sandbox#Table, but column sorting doesn't work from almost all mobile browsers. Sadly, further sorting on a secondary column by Shift-Clicking or Shift-Enter requires a either a physical keyboard or a workaround with a virtual keyboard.


Until recently, I had no clue that Shift-Clicking (or Shift-Enter) further sorts an already sorted Wikipedia table.

Were you aware of this magic Shift-Click action?

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lent, I wasn't aware of it, although the edits I do in Wikipedia outside of automated processes is pretty limited and with that being said, I'm probably not the best source to give input on a proposed table format.Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks! --Lent (talk) 02:00, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:01:18, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Dotanmeirov


Hi, I am really trying to figure out how to properly do this. I have made most of the revisions asked for. If you can give me even one small example, I will make sure to fix the whole. I can also see how in the beginning it was totally advertisement looking. I removed everything and only kept the dry facts about the company. I followed the instructions on the wiki pages. Just give me a little insite and I will do my best to make it right. I thank you again, D

Dotanmeirov (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dotanmeirov, Sorry, but I don't have any interest in helping paid editors and/or a business promoting itself. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:43, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Asking for clarification on rejected article

Hey, thanks for the feedback on this page for Barry's. Can you please give me some specific detail on how or where it reads like an ad? I'm happy to adjust where necessary, but I thought I wrote this in a pretty neutral, objective tone, and I cited a ton of reputable sources. Thanks for your help!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barry%27s_Bootcamp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djb2183 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:41:54, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by VladNDB


Hello. I am having trouble getting the Wikipedia page for Peter McIan accepted. McIan produced two of the most popular albums of the 80's (Men at Work's 'Business as Usual' and 'Cargo'), as well as a number of important Australian bands (listed in the page), and has been credited in multiple major periodicals (Billboard and Rolling Stone) for helping to shape the Australian sound. There are 36 references to McIan on Wikipedia, so I am unclear why a page addressing the person cited on other pages (often at length) is not relevant. I'd appreciate any help here! Thanks!

VladNDB (talk) 23:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great Fan

Hello @Sulfurboy thank you for making Wikipedia a better place on internet am great fan hopefully one day to become like you always active 👍 Sevenmw265 (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Super Legit Records

Hi Sulfurboy, Apologies if I am responding in the wrong place; I'm new to wikipedia and dont know where or how to respond:

While I understand Super Legit Records is not exactly noteworthy, the reason it exists as a page is because it exists as a record label; it has its own releases and published works... I understand that in order to qualify it has to have more media coverage, but at what point should the article be made? Looking at the wikipedia article "list of record labels" as an example, not all of the record labels listed include numerous major works; some have a modest or minor catelogue.

So, at which point SHOULD the wikipedia page for the label be created? Ohrusl (talk) 08:11, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ohrusl, When it meets our notability guidelines as outlined in the decline message. If you think there is notability issues on other record companies pages, feel free to nominate them. However, their inclusion has no bearing on the page you're trying to create. WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 14:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Sorry to here that you're racist. I'm afraid we are going to have to cancel you for declining that draft. 😂

–MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:12, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MJL, Hahaha thank you, yeah that was news to me for sure. By their logic, I'm racist to probably every race by now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sulfurboy (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
[Thank you for the ping] Oof, now your triple canceled now. Pretty soon Sulfurboy will be a redirect to Hitler!
btw, you can use {{shrug}} for a simple way to type out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Request on 16:14:41, 6 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Hellboy69


Hi, I was confused that this entry was deemed not notable.

I can find many pages about authors with similar publishing track records, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kane_(writer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Bailey

Can you clarify why those examples are notable?

> Okay, so you're not willing to research others' articles? How narrow minded a view.

> I'd rather not recommend anything for deletion. I thought Wikipedia was a resource, not a regime.

> Have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellboy69 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hellboy69 (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hellboy69, Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 16:15, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hellboy69, I didn't create those articles, so I don't know. You're welcome to nominate them for deletion if you feel they don't meet notability standards. WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Dear Sulfurboy, thank you! I was so happy to see that the page I created today about Sharon Macdonald was so quickly and neatly accepted :D I'll polish it further on, but for now, I'll make myself a lovely Friday eve - I wish you a wonderful start into the weekend---Very best, Quellcode

Quellcode (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quellcode, Yay, thank you. Have a good weekend. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Reverted draftification

Hi Sulfurboy, thanks for your request at WP:RFPP. I wanted to explain my decline and subsequent move since the situation is a little weird. The page was created by Hebah1028 and first draftified by Buidhe. Hebah objected to the draftification and attempted to move the page back, but performed a cut-and-paste move instead of using the built-in move function. I've history merged them back into one page. Per the draftification guidelines, if an editor objects to draftification, it should be moved back to article space and listed at AfD. Given all that, I declined create protection and undid your draftification. I don't know much about the topic, so I don't feel comfortable nominating the topic at AFD myself. If you think the article is unsuitable for inclusion, the next step would be nominating the article for deletion or encouraging Hebah to work on the page in their userspace. Thanks for your work reviewing! — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wugapodes, That all makes sense and helps clarify things for me moving forward. I appreciate your help and the full explanation. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help on better coverage

Hello, I understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carmel_Secondary_School may not show significant coverage, for a school, what else should I also include? I understand it may sound like an advertisement before as many references may come from the school itself and it may sound a bit promotional. (I have included more reference that is not from the school itself now) I have improved the tone and hopefully, you can tell me if there's any part still sound promotional/ not neutral enough. This is my first article, and I'm sorry there's quite some mistake. But at the same time, I'm also confused on how to show more significant coverage of the topic, any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Side note, the school has a Chinese Wikipedia page, but since it is an EMI school, I find it suitable to create an English Wikipedia as well. That's why I have decided to create this article ZeroApocalypse (talk) 04:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ZeroApocalypse, If there's not significant coverage of the subject, then it is not notable at this time. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Segunda Division

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you for responding to my draft, I was befuddled at the article being declined but I did correct that the player in question did play in Segunda division which is a fully professional league. I also added the required references, I do understand that he then went on to play for Segunda division b which is not a fully professional league, but I corrected the appreances he made as requested as a professional. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gabriel_Kunda_Jr. Vivalionel1 (talk) 11:45, 07 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vivalionel1, Its good to be approved. See my note: "The mainspace page is currently page protected, I've requested that to be removed. Once that is done I will move it to mainspace. If its been 48 hours and this hasn't been moved into mainspace please ping me on my talk page and remind me. Note to other reviwers or admins, feel free to move this into mainspace as well." Sulfurboy (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 12:25:01, 7 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Alwayslp



Alwayslp (talk) 12:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thank you for your message. I was wondering if you could please help to direct me to the areas in the draft that need to be revised in more of a encyclopedic tone. Is there a certain sub-header (or sub-headers) more problematic than others or is it the overall entry that needs work? Also, are the references chosen acceptable? Thank you so much for your help and input. Alwayslp (talk) 12:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alwayslp, The whole article needs to be re-written. The page is just a line by line brag about the subject. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. Alwayslp (talk) 02:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:50:46, 7 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Bokhan.evgeniy


Dear Sulfurboy, please advise, what I need to change? I saw that it's because of referral link sources. Tell me please the problems were because I took from Russian services? or the quality of these sources? Thank you

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Anastasia_Kochetkova&action=edit Bokhan.evgeniy (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bokhan.evgeniy, Please review WP:RS and remove all unreliable sources. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Could you please let me know what changes are required to accept this article. I am preparing wiki page for my friend who is upcoming actor in South Indian Film industry.

User: Salvadi Actor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salvadi Actor (talk • contribs) 17:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Etretat Gardens

I just don't understand why my draft keeps being denied :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Etretat_Gardens Compared to my previous version, I added so much more sources / references, and written so much more neutral... But still declined without a specific note other than "does not meet requirements". Help?--Robin.de.clercq (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide Conroy

Thanks for tagging this one. I think that in view of the sources given and the time period, the article deserves to be on mainspace. The editor obviously had access to the sources quoted. The very fact that there was a woman photographer in Valetta as early as 1871 is notable enough.--Ipigott (talk) 08:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Dilip Kumar Salvadi and User:Salvadi Actor/sandbox

You declined both of these drafts (with which I agree). I don't know if you noticed that they are of the same person, and describe the same career, but are written slightly differently. One of them is an autobiography. So I don't know if the two drafts were written by the same person (that is, by the subject). This is a case where CheckUser is necessary to see if they are coming from the same IP range. If they aren't the same person, then the other one may be just a fan, but is more likely the actor's agent. I don't know if you happened to notice that they are the same person. I only noticed because I tried to move the sandbox to draft space, and the draft was already there. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Robert McClenon, Yeah I didn't notice, it likely got lost in the swarm. Looks like their both where they need to be, declined and waiting for improvement Sulfurboy (talk) 07:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. If they're the same person, it's sockpuppetry. If they're not the same person, the other one is probably a paid editor, but we can't prove that. As long as they don't do anything except submit non-notable drafts, the system is working at keeping their crud out of the encyclopedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Shipman

I've just accepted this. Probably you didn't notice that ref1 is to a full editorial NYT obit, and we have never in the last ten years seen afd delete an article with such a reference (from after the 19th century) DGG ( talk ) 01:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DGG, An oversight by me for sure. Thank you for catching it. Sulfurboy (talk) 07:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Michalski

Please let me understand your reasoning for declining Draft:Carl Michalski, - not "my" article. I thought we talk sources, not notability? He is mentioned in a book, only I don't have access to the book. He is mentioned - with many references - in the lexicon of the University of Munich. He made recordings with highly notable performers, all sourced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jasper Evangelista

Hi Sulfurboy, can you let me know the key reasons why my submission was declined. It's my first submission. Any suggestion would be much appreciated. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jillop Criterion (talk • contribs) 09:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jillop Criterion - Do you mean Draft:Jasper Evangelista? It contains too much marketing buzzspeak. Are you being paid by Evangelista? If so, you must declare it. If not, you are writing like a paid editor, and should learn to write like a neutral editor. Ask for advice at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:22:05, 9 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by DavoGregorious


Hi there - just wondered if you could point me towards what would be considered to be an Independent reference - I included the UK government Dept of Trade - a Government Agency listing which I thought would cover the requirement for a business as detailed in Examples on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_independent_sources

You assistance would be much appreciated

DavoGregorious (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DavoGregorious, Its not just a matter of providing sources. Its a matter of providing sources that denote notability. So far that is not the case. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cynergy Bank draft

Articles exclusively about the subject have been submitted from the Financial Times, the Times, This Is Money and Bloomberg - all leading independent publications - with an additional reference in an industry "who's who" piece from leading trade magazine, Fintech Futures. I am struggling to see how the article fails to meet Wikipedia's eligibility criteria? There are of course many more that I could add but I want to make sure I choose the right ones. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choccodog (talk • contribs) 14:41, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to the draft page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cynergy_Bank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choccodog (talk • contribs) 14:44, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Choccodog, We need to see significant coverage from secondary sources that doesn't just cover WP:ROUTINE matters Sulfurboy (talk) 15:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I received your message The draft space for this subject currently has page protection I don't know what that means — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plaxico Johnson (talk • contribs) 19:42, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delia White draft

Hello Sulfurboy, Thank you for reviewing my draft article covering Delina White. I will edit my article again in order to improve the quality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Delina_White

Thank you, Victoria ReyesVictoriareyes19 (talk) 20:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020-21 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball season

Hey Sulfurboy I need some Help on the Article 2020-21 NCAA Division I Men's basketball season where can i find some proper sources. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Powin energy

I edited the Powin Energy Draft can you check it again? 4kingly (talk) 22:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Draft:Powin_Energy&action=submit#editform[reply]

Sunbonnet Babies

Really disappointed to see that my Sunbonnet Babies article was rejected because it does not show "significant coverage" in a "published, reliable secondary source" Sunbonnet babies appeared in published books and were widely used in schools in the early 20th century. Minnesota History is a reliable, peer reviewed source, so I am not sure how that does not meet the guidelines for a secondary source. Sunbonnet babies are still important in popular culture as a quilting pattern and as collectible books and figurines. Surely if Mack Boatner gets a wikipedia page, Sunbonnet Babies deserve their time in the Wikipedia sun... —Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Guidance requested Re-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Afritondo

Hello Sulfurboy,

Many thanks for taking the time to review the above-named draft article. Your feedback was well received. Would you, however, kindly permit me to seek some further clarification on how to demonstrate coverage in secondary independent sources. I had attempted to do this after the first feedback but apparently did not meet the standards. My initial understanding was that I needed to incorporate newspaper articles which I thought I had done the second time (after the first feedback) by including newspaper articles from Daily Trust (a Nigerian paper) and The Herald (Zimbabwe's largest newspaper). Is it a case of needing more newspaper articles or, perhaps, a different source? (Of course, I'll concede that getting African sources, beyond occasional newspaper articles, would be challenge -- but I can try). Your guidance/clarification would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks again and kudos for the work you do. I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

All4prof (talk) 10:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All4prof, The coverage can't just be WP:ROUTINE. Prize announcements are just routine. Further, announcement such as that don't actually show coverage of the subject, they instead are showing coverage of people who have won the given awards. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your kind explanation. It is much clearer now. I will seek to make the necessary revisions when I work on the draft again in the coming weeks. All4prof (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Plaxico Johnson/sandbox

Hi, can you please clarify which page "protected" in draftspace are you talking about? Thanks. tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 10:40, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Lord of Math This one Draft:Louis L. Reed. Theroadislong (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paul J. Tesar

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you so much for approving my page for Paul J. Tesar. I am still new and learning the process so I really appreciate everyone’s patience with helping me with this page. I have also been working with AngusWOOF and David notMD. I believe I have now satisfied the requirements for declaring COI. I have declared officially on my talk page and have neutralized the tone of the article. Based on Wikipedia guidelines this should enable the maintenance template to be removed? Could you check the revised page and remove the maintenance template? If there are other things I need to do beforehand, please let me know. Thank you again for all your help! --Marissascavuzzo (talk) 15:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. George Ambartsoumian

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you for giving time to review my first page for Dr. George Ambartsoumian. As you are familiar I am new and the learning curve of wikipedia is pretty steep for me. I really appreciate if you can help me with some more recommendations on my chosen article. Thank you in advance for your mentorship! --Junaidbusn170/sandbox (talk) 13:29, 10 March 2020 (EST)

Rams-Saints Rivalry

Thank you for the assistance for my created rivalry page! - PontiacAurora (PontiacAurora (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Draft:Rini Yun Keagy

Hello there. Wanted to clarify that this article that I created a few days ago was intentionally left as a stub article. We are currently hosting a Wikipedia Edit-A-Thon at St Olaf College, and students at the college are going to be spending time with this article and adding more sources to it. The students themselves were unable to make a new page, as they had never edited an article before, so I simply created an article and added some preliminary text for the purposes of publishing the page. I understand there are many missing citations and lack of sources; this is fully intentional on my part so that these students can practice the research and citation process for underrepresented artists such as Keagy. It would be helpful if this page could be moved out of drafts so that they are more easily able to access the article and add their citations. Thank you. (lngracie (talk) 12:45, 10 March 2020 (CST))

Question about a contradictory rejection of an article I wrote about a Catholic parish.

Hi Sulfurboy,

First of all, I'm happy that you were able to review the draft of the article I wrote so quickly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Queen_of_Apostles_Parish This is the first article I've written on Wikipedia and I assumed that it would be allowed to be published because of its similarity to other articles written about other parishes that are in the same diocese that I wrote my article about.

For reference, here is the list of Roman Catholic Diocese of San Jose in California parishes. There are a few, such as, Church of the Transfiguration (San Jose, California) and Saint Joseph of Cupertino Parish that are less in words and in references, yet they were accepted pages into Wikipedia, yet mine, with more references and text, was declined. Why is there a contradiction?

I hope that doesn't come off as adverse or contentious, but this just confused me.

Thank you, William Minker 20:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I didn't create or approve those pages, so I'm the wrong person to ask as to why they are in the mainspace. Also, whether or not other pages exist is not an indication of notability for your page, see WP:INN. We need to see reliable, secondary and significant coverage of the subject to meet our notability standards. If you feel the pages you mentioned are not notable, you are welcome to nominate them for deletion. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Loginno Draft

It says right on my user page, and my disclosure page, and my talk page And my about me page that this account is a paid account, and when I submitted the article for creation, I indicated at that time I am a paid editor. What more disclosure is needed? And why did I get a 10 second review of an article that is from reliable shipping container news sites? And how does it “read like an advertisement”, I never said they were a great company or product, I just listed what news articles and they themselves said. There wasn’t any criticism of them to list. Please help me understand what is incorrect. Integritas888 (talk) 20:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Integritas888, Disclosure needs to be done on each page you create. The entire article is heavily advertisimal and likely would need to be wholly rewritten to abide the formal, neutral guidelines of Wikipedia. I would advise reading the linked policy pages in the decline message Sulfurboy (talk) 20:41, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding more references...

some references were wiped out when somebody simplified my article and they were attached.

is a link to a TV show he appeared on an acceptable source?

any more advice from you is greatly appreciated. ☺ ... Fulber (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment

I don't know how to respond to your comment explaining the rejection of my article, but thank you for explaining. I doubt that additional secondary sources will become available for my article, as that parish does not receive very much press coverage in the slightest. Once again, thank you for reviewing my article and thank you for the work you do for Wikipedia. I hope you have a great day.

Also, although it is unlikely that I will resubmit my draft for reviewal again, I would like to keep my draft from being deleted, so as to remember the first article I wrote for Wikipedia, albeit a rejected one. To avoid the six-month deletion phase, I'll update the page semi-frequently with new information that I gather and who knows, maybe it'll be good enough for re-submittal again.

Thank you, William Minker 20:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WMinker (talk • contribs)

P.S I'm using four tildes to sign, but it doesn't seem that links to my user profile and talk page show up. I'm not quite sure how to add that, for possible easy reference in case someone wants to check out my profile or talk page for some reason. It appears that bot added an unsigned notice, but I thought I did sign it by adding four tildes. That's alright I guess.

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