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Requested move 12 February 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus confirming the current title, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 01:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SpaceX Dragon → Dragon (spacecraft) – The article was moved from Dragon (spacecraft) to the current title in November 2016, following a poorly-attended move request which did not establish consensus. (Dear Amakuru, let me WP:TROUT you belatedly for this premature close.) The titling guidelines at WP:SPACENAME clearly discourage listing a manufacturer name in front of a spacecraft or rocket name: we have Falcon 9, not SpaceX Falcon 9, and Cygnus (spacecraft), not Orbital ATK Cygnus. Heck, SpaceX Dragon is even listed in WP:SPACENAME as an example of what not to do! I therefore request to move the title back to the standard form Dragon (spacecraft). — JFG talk 15:40, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I don't think it was a terrible close when the strength of arguments were analysed. Seems like a fairly textbook example of WP:NATURALDIS and example sources were given last time to support the assertion that the SpaceX Dragon name is found widely. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 20:24, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Only two comments except the nominator, one for, one against? Nah, you should have relisted. Or !voted your opinion per your comment here. Anyway, that's an old story, let's see what happens now. — JFG talk 11:45, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nah brah, it was the correct close then, and barring some major change in the general approach to WP:NATURALDIS, the best solution now ;) --Cúchullain t/c 03:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how "the era of commercial spaceflight" should make naming conventions any different. Cygnus is as commercial as Dragon, and is not titled with its manufacturer's name. Of course such conventions can be discussed at WT:WikiProject Spaceflight if you feel they need to change. — JFG talk 22:27, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Irrelevent comparison. Sources mostly call Cygnus just "Cygnus". Sources call this topic "SpaceX Dragon" (or more rarely SpaceX's Dragon). The buried "essay" at WP:SPACENAME, which says to subvert the standard WP:CRITERIA by removing the manufacturer, is what needs to be corrected. -- Netoholic @ 23:35, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

End of production

Has the production of the Dragon version 1 ended? How many Dragen version 1 were produced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.75.231.134 (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'm not sure but I know that after the CRS-12 SpaceX stated that that would be the last mission to use a new Dragon 1. (1 ish minute into the webcast). So presubly they halted production, not sure on the number of Dragon 1 produced though. 173.52.238.41 (talk) 21:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

missions table

Seems to me that the table should include payload mass and downmass also. Nergaal (talk) 08:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that sounds like a good idea, it might get too overwhelming at the table though, maybe instead of putting in the separate column just put in the "Remarks" section.

I would like to see undocking date and/or de-orbit date included. AncientBrit (talk) 16:35, 3 September 2019 (UTC) (talk) 16:32, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

173.52.238.41 (talk) 21:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mission Payload Downmass Ref
CRS-1 882 pounds (400 kg) 1,673 pounds (759 kg) [1]
CRS-2 1,493 pounds (677 kg) 3,020 pounds (1,370 kg) [2]
CRS-3 Example Example Example
CRS-4 Example Example Example
CRS-5 Example Example Example
CRS-6 Example Example Example
CRS-7 Example Example Example
CRS-8 Example Example Example
CRS-9 Example Example Example
CRS-10 Example Example Example
CRS-11 Example Example Example
CRS-12 Example Example Example
CRS-13 Example Example Example
CRS-14 Example Example Example
CRS-15 Example Example Example
CRS-16 Example Example Example
CRS-17 Example Example Example

A list of spacecraft and their current status

A list of all the Dragon spacecraft produced with: the type (Dragon 1, Dragon 2), the number of times they have gone into orbit, the number of person transported to the ISS, the date of the first and last mission, and the final disposition of the spacecraft itself (i.e. destroyed, stored, displayed at museum, etc.)

user:mnw2000 10:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JavaScript

I searched through SpaceX job offers and although some mention Javascript those that are for Dragon don't. Until there is no official information about the dragon's stack I don't think you can say the GUI is made with JS. --Nux (talk) 22:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTW. If someone links to a Rickrolling video then it doesn't sound like a valid source 😉. See: [3]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nux (talk • contribs) 22:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion/contradiction in the purpose of the article

The article header-text claims: "This article is about the original Cargo Dragon. For Crew Dragon, see Dragon 2..." but the article talks about the Commercial Crew program and the D2 development. Then the missions table only lists D1 missions. The article seems to want to be a general summary but also D1-only. Pick a side. Either the Red-Dragon and D2-specific material needs to be moved/merged to their respective articles and this made a pure D1 article, or else the D1-specific material needs its own article and this article becomes a summary article for all-Dragon-variants-and-history. -- PaulxSA (talk) 09:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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