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Your submission at Articles for creation: Toi et moi (TV series) (July 19)

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Your edits of Dead Sea Scrolls

Hello, in these two edits, you removed a source which broke a reference name. Also, the source doesn't mention "iron gall", but it says gall nuts (meaning oak apples or other galls) were *sometimes* added to the ink "to make it more resilient" — see also Iron gall ink. Your edits removed the additions "to thin the ink to a proper consistency for writing". I reverted the edits for these reasons. Wakari07 (talk) 11:37, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wakari, I'd appreciate if you revert the document to the new edit: Iron gall ink is ink made from gall nuts.

"Ancient black inks were analyzed in several studies and two types were detected and identified: carbon ink, based on lampblack or soot; and iron-gall ink, consisting of copperas (green vitriol, FESO 4 - 7H20), treated with a decoction of oak-nut galls.2"

Thank you for our reply. Note that the sentence "Ancient black inks were analyzed in several studies" is a general statement about "ancient black inks", not specific to the Dead Sea Scrolls. While the occasional (where?) addition of galls is mentioned, there is no talk of iron. "scientific analyses of the black ink used in the scrolls clearly determined that it was not iron-based, but rather carbonaceous (charcoal, soot, lampblack, etc.)"[1] I edited the article to provide for the addition of gall, adding the sentence "Galls were sometimes added to the ink to make it more resilient.<ref name="itsgila.com" />". For the Broshi & Nir-El source however, I have access only to the first two of ten pages here. Wakari07 (talk) 13:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am not so sure. Why would they talk about different black inks, while they are talking about Qumran Scrolls. I've dropped an email, to the Dead Sea scrolls site and asked them for confirmation about the composition of the inks and the proporotion to which they were written with by either Carbon or Iron gall inks.

My other source, was Ted Bishop's Ink, https://books.google.ca/books?id=ScOtDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT255&dq=ted+bishop+ink+Dead+Sea+scrolls&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwisqqTr4_DtAhWvq1kKHZgCCy4Q6AEwAHoECAMQAg#v=onepage&q=Dead%20Sea%20scrolls&f=false

In that he assures that the Dead Sea Scrolls are written with Iron gall ink. I can drop him a line and ask him too.

Furthermore:

Carbon ink is basically soot, and fat, mixed with water...you have ink. Iron gall ink, is gall nuts, mixed with ferrous sulphite, gum arabic and liquid (water, vinegar etc). You cannot add gall nuts to carbon ink... That statement is not correct. Sorry :)

Check this site too: https://scrolls4all.org/scrolls/kosher-ink/ "When the ink on the Dead Sea Scrolls was analyzed using a cyclotron at the Davis campus of the University of California, there were three recipes for the ink. One was the carbon base gall ink; the other was the iron gall ink. The difference in the two is Iron-gall ink burned into the parchment by reacting with collagen in the skin.

The third type of ink was found in a few scrolls at Qumran. It was called “red ink”."