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Savage Records harming the success of the album in the USA?

There's nothing much about Savage Records in this write up (just before Black Tie White Noise when he signed a $3.4 million deal with the record label). I thought it would be more prominent in the article with some people at the time pointing to the troubles at Savage to why the album wasn't a big hit in the USA....

Info about Savage...

"David Mimran's Savage Records (known for British band Soho and their Smiths-sampling indie-dance hit "Hippychick" in 1991)[1][2] was set up by the Swiss teenager in 1986 and funded by his multi-millionaire father. Due to the almost endless financing of his father and the fact their A&R manager (a Swiss record shop owner called Bernard Fanin) had industry experience, the label managed to make it into the 1990s with a number of dance and hip-hop hits by artists such as Silver Bullet and A Homeboy, Hippy and A Funky Dread (issued on Savage's Tam Tam dance label).[3][4] Around the time Soho had their top ten UK hit,[5][6][7] Mimran decided that Savage would not just be a British indie, but would be an American major instead. Savage Records went on a spending spree in America, which resulted in them opening plush offices on Broadway, hiring Michael Jackson's manager Frank DiLeo and signing David Bowie to a massive $3.4 million record deal, all which ended when Mimran's father, Jean Claude, cut finances."[8][9][10][11] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.173.247 (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/24732/soho/
  2. ^ https://www.songfacts.com/facts/soho/hippychick
  3. ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/28417/a-homeboy-a-hippie-and-a-funki-dredd/
  4. ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/25625/silver-bullet/
  5. ^ https://www.sohopopgroup.com/about
  6. ^ https://www.songfacts.com/facts/soho/hippychick
  7. ^ http://www.clockworkthrob.com/Soho_Story.html
  8. ^ https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/rock-a-close-shave-and-no-cash-back-when-david-bowie-signed-to-savage-he-took-a-long-shot-and-missed-1492135.html
  9. ^ https://variety.com/1993/music/news/savage-has-gone-silent-107368/
  10. ^ https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6843757/david-bowie-businessman-deep-dive-visionary-dealmaking
  11. ^ http://www.mtv.com/news/1426406/no-appeal-for-savagebowie-lawsuit/

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2020

First mention of full name of biographer David Buckley is not at first use in article. 71.214.93.142 (talk) 01:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Seagull123 Φ 19:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged relationship with Lori Mattix

I added a paragraph on Bowie's sexuality, namely his alleged relationship with an underage girl in the 1970's. It has been widely publicised and deserves to be mentioned in this article, in my opinion, also bearing in mind the relevance this subject has to the current "Me-too" movement. Jeroen1961 (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This comes up now and then. The issue is that this is a single source who's released some contradictory information and cannot be refuted. It's basically completely a rumor. I think you should expect that this will be removed. 87Fan (talk) 05:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, there are many sources, people who hace confirmed the relationship between Mattix and Bowie and other rock stars. In the article on Prince Andrew, the allegations of his supposed sexual relationship with an underage girl is also mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Andrew,_Duke_of_York#Friendship_with_Epstein_and_sex_abuse_allegations In this video, Jimmy Page's ex-girlfriend confirms Page's relationship with Matix, and there are others who have confirmed Bowie's relationship with Mattix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDPL5380rCsoU&v=PL5380rCsoU&feature=emb_rel_end Jeroen1961(talk) 12:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
These sources allege rather than confirm. Also note that YouTube is not considered a WP:RS. For a change like this you should run a WP:RFC to gain a consensus. MarnetteD|Talk 19:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree, with all due respect. Likewise, Victoria Giuffre alleges she had sex with prince Andrew as an underage girl, and this fact is mentioned in the Wikipedia-article about him. In this case, Lori Mattix alleges she had sex with Bowie, while underage. It is the same thing. The source I have given, the article written by Michael Kaplan, is perfectly valid. Furthermore, the article later became a central debate topic across social media, prompting a widespread discussion, and is therefore worth mentioning in the 'Me Too age', especially since Mattox now views these years in a different light, and says she would not wish this for anybody's daughter, as is mentioned in the Guardian-article. So I will revert once again, I hope you can understand my point of view. Jeroen1961 (talk) 20:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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