Talk:Alexei Navalny

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Xenophobic past

Wow. Noticed that every single part of Navalny's rich history of racism, has been thoroughly and completely censored from the article multiple times. It doesn't change the fact that as an encyclopaedia, you cannot just omit anything negative especially of politicians. On BBC, Amnesty International stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status because of his xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and has not renounced. Stuff like calling Muslims as cockroaches that needs pest extermination or referring to non white immigrants as teeth cavities ruining his country. These are verified need-to-know facts that shouldn't be hidden away. People obviously only censor it because they know it's messed up and don't want people to be aware of his history. Which is against NPOV. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56181084 49.179.71.19 (talk) 08:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are behind. Amnesty reinstated the prisoner of conscience status because of pro-Kremlin campaign against him (and other people like Kazbek). 2000s stuff he is not notable for. I do think there should be a bit more in the article about it and some other things as there was media attention on it, also Ukrainians keep shitting on him over "buterbrod" comment (well it is twisted for anti-Russian purposes but whatever), but previous attempts have misrepresented what is said in RS and also pushed a POV. Mellk (talk) 09:14, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
His far right past has been covered in reliable sources. See for example, "Has Alexey Navalny moved on from his nationalist past?" in Al Jazeera
The article should mention his far right activism, at least in the early life section and mention that he has disowned it. Based on coverage in sources, it does not warrant extensive emphasis in this article. I had been unaware of it, although it doesn't surprise me, so thanks for bringing it up.
TFD (talk) 12:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Yabloko section already mentions Russian march, NAROD, etc. Mellk (talk) 17:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Yabloko section says he was thrown out of the party for demanding the president's resignation, but the cited source doesn't say that at all, only that if was for harming the party and nationalist activities. Has that been cleaned up as well? Messlo (talk) 10:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop the whitewash!

A lot of editors try to delete/minimize the description of Navalny radical nationalist views! Stop this by reinstating the information with citations. 2A02:8108:1640:5282:6501:C80F:15EC:EADD (talk) 01:00, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He is a nationalist

Add the Information about him being a nationalist. 2A02:3030:809:C854:1:0:A798:E00 (talk) 01:20, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The information is in the article. Ymblanter (talk) 19:56, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Membership in "Rodina"

He was part of the Rodina (political party) coalition in 2013. 2A02:3030:817:84EF:1:0:6BEE:57CA (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add a Criminal information section.

Criminal status Incarcerated since XXX

Criminal charge XXX Date apprehended XXX Imprisoned at XXX 79.116.5.34 (talk) 16:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This would probably be a violation of BLP and NPOV. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is a lot of people with criminal status in here. It's factual information, he is incarcerated and he is in custody in a colony. So don't get the Npov part. People may not agree on the fairness but it doesn't change the fact. 79.116.122.153 (talk) 06:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly do you propose to add? The article already describes the charges and the dates of imprisonment. Alaexis¿question? 12:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Has the ECHR also ruled that those other people were convicted unfairly? Mellk (talk) 19:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of adding a status: Incarcerated to the infobox. It makes sense, and the information is quicker to find. What are the reasons this isn't in the infobox? Opok2021 (talk) 20:13, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalist

The introduction should read "Alexey Navalny is a Russian nationalist, opposition politician..." and the rest of the article should stay the same for now. 2A02:3030:809:18F2:1:0:F5D1:5C30 (talk) 22:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He is not notable for being a nationalist, so no. Mellk (talk) 22:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Parenthetical in the lead

Why is the statement "(who avoids referring directly to Navalny by name)" in the first paragraph of the lead? It breaks the flow of the paragraph and doesn't seem relevant in the first paragraph in the place where it's mentioned. Imzadi23 (talk) 11:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]