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I put a context tag on "Charleston church shooting" becuase someone unfamiliar with this wouldn't understand this section as it doesn't explain what the shooting is at all, it just jumps into weapons and motives.— Preceding unsigned comment added by EoRdE6 (talk • contribs) 1:17, 23 June 2015

Right-wing terrorist

Is that appropriate? User talk:jumplike23 21:34, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it is. —Fitoschido ^[shout_track] @ 25 June, 2015; 01:49

If it's not cited to a reliable source then it does not get into the article. WWGB (talk) 04:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This young man does not accurately represent a "right wing" terrorist. Just a terrorist. His ideals were not far right winged - his ideals were racist. Please remove this and correct.

This is not supported by the sources. He has been called a racist, and it would seem pretty clear that he is. His crime has been called a hate-crime, and it would appear pretty clear that it is. His crime has not been identified as terrorism. Arzel (talk) 17:56, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not Terrorism. link Arzel (talk) 18:00, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In either source, No where does it say "right-wing terrorist" or even associate right wing, but it does use terrorist.User talk:jumplike23 18:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The term "terrorist" should be used carefully and restrainedly, see WP:TERRORIST. There is a public discussion if the shooting was an act of terrorism or not. Some say yes, some no. There are arguments for both positions. Wikipedia should not take sides. I propose to simply start the article with "Dylann Storm Roof (born April 3, 1994) is the suspected perpetrator of the Charleston church shooting, (...)"--RJFF (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What we can say is that the DOJ is investigating it as a case of domestic terrorism [1]. - Cwobeel (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

allegedly verbally and physically abusive ??

Bennett was allegedly verbally and physically abusive towards Mann.[4]

Does this need to be there? A husband or wife claiming abuse seems to be every divorce these days. Allegedly means maybe it did. maybe it didn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.189.101.11 (talk) 02:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"taking drugs"

Is a kind of meaningless phrase the press likes to use, but it could mean anything from a little weed here and there to a full monty of booze, pot, pills, meth, opiods, etc.. do any of the sources give more information? I believe it's relevant to understanding his state of mind (or lack thereof). -- GreenC 04:39, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

.. and I see later down the article he was found with "Suboxone, a narcotic used to treat opiate addictions", but he didn't have a prescription for it (llegal possession charge). This page has information on symptoms of abuse: "A doctor who treats opiate addicts in Palm Beach by giving them Suboxone reported that small doses like two milligrams per day will block the great majority of a person's ability to feel emotions while larger doses will make a person "practically numb." Anyway that's speculation but clearly he was into more than booze and weed. We might want to clarify that point. -- GreenC 04:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He was probably previously addicted to heroin or something and as taking Suboxone to get clean. Suboxone is heavily regulated which is why he got busted for it, but no one uses it recreationally. Andrew Keenan Richardson (talk!) 17:17, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, after some researching, I was wrong. Suboxone is apparently used recreationally, as well as for treating heroin addiction.Forum users talking about suboxone use Andrew Keenan Richardson (talk!) 17:36, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Defense

Fundraising gathered almost $ 4.300.000 for his defense. read more: dylann roof supporters raise --Foreign Species (talk) 17:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link; this would be interesting information to add to the article if reliable sources pick it up. VQuakr (talk) 17:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is a hoax. http://heavy.com/news/2015/06/dylann-roof-donations-has-did-dylann-roof-charleston-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-receive-4-million-donations-hoax-conspiracy-charity-defense-fund-gofundme-newswatch33-citizens-white-rights/ Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, debunked on [snopes] too. 70.36.233.104 (talk) 16:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Thanks for the link; this would be interesting information to add to the article if reliable sources pick it up. [[User:VQuakr|VQuakr]] ([[User talk:VQuakr|talk]]) 17:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 ::It is a hoax. http://heavy.com/news/2015/06/dylann-roof-donations-has-did-dylann-roof-charleston-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-receive-4-million-donations-hoax-conspiracy-charity-defense-fund-gofundme-newswatch33-citizens-white-rights/ [[User:Richard-of-Earth|Richard-of-Earth]] ([[User talk:Richard-of-Earth|talk]]) 20:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
+:::Yep, debunked on [[http://m.snopes.com/dylann-roof-donations/ snopes]] too. [[Special:Contributions/70.36.233.104|70.36.233.104]] ([[User talk:70.36.233.104|talk]]) 16:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)