Talk:Halo (franchise)

Cultural influences section: "Armor" by Robert Stately... or John Steakley?

The current issue of Edge contains a retrospective article on Halo: CE. In it, Bungie's Jaime Griesemer talks about the game's development. I've already changed this article to mention his acknowledgement of Christopher Rowley's influence on the Flood, and after posting this message here, I'm going to add his description of how the "Combat Evolved" sibtitle came about to Halo: Combat Evolved#Development.

He supports the statements in the already-referenced IGN article about the influence of Iain M Banks (specifically mentioning his Consider Phlebas) and Larry Niven (he elaborates on that, explaining that that Niven's influence was less about the Ringworld itself, and more about "that feeling of being somewhere else. That sense of scale and an epic story going on out there").

However, he also says: "One of the main sources of inspiration was Armour by Robert Stately, in which a soldier has to constantly re-live the same war over and over again. That sense of hopelessness, a relentless battle, was influential."

I wanted to add that to this article - after all, he does says it's "One of the main sources of inspiration". But Googling for it, there doesn't seem to be any such novel or short story! The closest thing I've been able to find is Armor by John Steakley - which is a fairly similar name to Stately, so you can see how he might have got it mixed up. And from the descriptions of the plot in those Amazon reviews it does sound like the right book. But since I can't be sure, I thought I'd mention it here rather than going ahead and adding it myself. So, if this is added to the article, how should it be worded? Mentioning the "Steakley" name in the main text, and using the footnote to explain that in the Edge article itself he was mistaken about the name and said "Stately"? --Nick R^Talk 18:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, that's tricky... I honestly am not sure. If it were a transposed letter I would just have put a {sic} and been done with it, but that's a pretty big jump in names (of course, it make be less Griesemer misspeaking than Edge misquoting.) Either way it's original research to suggest what he meant, so unfortunately I think we'll have to leave it out. If you haven't already, though, adding a bit about the Flood to the relevant article would be great. Thanks for the find! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 16:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I've just done quite a bit of rewording of this section, after coming across Bungie's own "Guide to Sci-Fi" page - I felt that that should be the most prominently-referenced source in this section. I did end up adding that mention of Armor, partly because it was mentioned once on that Bungie page - but although I quoted Griesemer's comments in Edge, I corrected the author's name by placing it in square brackets to make my editing clear. I also split off the mention of The Escapist's Aeneid article into its own paragraph, because that one's mythology rather than science fiction. --Nick R^Talk 19:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Bob99099, 4 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In the "Games" section I believe it should not say that the game series is still in chronological order because the release of Halo 3: ODST, and the future release of Halo Reach. The reason for this is because the information you have is outdated.

Bob99099 (talk) 01:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide a reliable source so we can update it? —fetch·comms 02:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Would the declaration of Halo Reach being a prequel on the official site suffice? 217.39.13.34 (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 84.59.63.105, 13 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Replace "Oribital Drop Shock Trooper" with "Orbital Drop Shock Trooper" -84.59.63.105 (talk) 18:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

done. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 19:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Please spell out "IP"

Under the "A sequel to Halo 3 Confirmed" section it says "...was working on a brand new IP." Please spell out IP for those who don't know what that means (me). --Yoda of Borg (talk) 22:32, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

It means "intellectual property". However the section it was in was utter bs, so I've blanked it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 15:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Small typo

I noticed the first sentence in the third paragraph says "Strong sales of the games has led to...". It should be "Strong sales of the games have led to...", since the object of the sentence is plural. just thought you guys might appreciate a heads up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.244.135 (talk) 03:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for the notice. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 04:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Update?

Can we update sales/reception to put Reach in as well? Thephatphilmz (talk) 20:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Halo Waypoint

Don't you think Halo Waypoint should re-direct to 343 Industries instead of the development section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NexCarnifex (talk • contribs) 13:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced 343 Industries deserves its own page, considering it hasn't actually produced a game and right now exists more as an IP holder than anything else. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 13:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

It certainly does, and by any logic, regardless it does more than 90% of the other Wikipedia articles. They are well established, and have videos coming out on Xbox live talking about they're future projects and current ones like the map pack. You even see their logo in the corner, they're more legit than all these webcomic pages, that's for sure. Were talking about triple A games. Nex Carnifex (talk) 20:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid reason for keeping things. How exactly are they notable outside of Microsoft itself? While they are supporting a game they haven't produced or developed any of the triple A games you speak of. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 20:21, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

logo

The logo in this article is horribly photoshoped. Nex Carnifex (talk) 15:46, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

halopedia?

we should add an external link to halo.wikia.com

just sort of makes sense, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJLO (talk • contribs) 02:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:External links cites valid links as "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues". Halopedia might be useful for directing interested readers to cruft not suitable for a general reference work, but it has far less critical information on the Halo series itself. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 20:52, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

well, i think someone coming to wikipedia for halo information would be very pleased to be directed to a wiki specifically for halo. so thats dumb. but whatev