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Looks like some new news with Strzok's involvment on the [[Michael Flynn]] case.[https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/495627-flynn-documents-are-the-smoking-gun-on-comeys-fbi][https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/30/fbi-closed-flynn-case-early-2017-peter-strzok-orde/][https://www.newsmax.com/us/strzok-page/2020/04/30/id/965493/][https://www.foxnews.com/politics/strzok-stopped-bureau-from-ending-flynn-probe-despite-lack-of-derogatory-evidence-unsealed-documents-reveal][https://www.foxnews.com/media/brett-tolman-peter-strzok-was-at-the-heart-of-the-trump-russia-storm] The Hill reporting notes from director of counterintelligence {{redacted}}.[https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/495401-fbi-officials-discussed-trying-to-get-flynn-to-lie-in-interview-get][https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/michael-flynns-defense-claims-fbi-notes-show-agents-tried-to-entrap-the-former-national-security-adviser/2020/04/29/fbbe0f30-8a67-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html] [[User:PackMecEng|PackMecEng]] ([[User talk:PackMecEng|talk]]) 20:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Looks like some new news with Strzok's involvment on the [[Michael Flynn]] case.[https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/495627-flynn-documents-are-the-smoking-gun-on-comeys-fbi][https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/30/fbi-closed-flynn-case-early-2017-peter-strzok-orde/][https://www.newsmax.com/us/strzok-page/2020/04/30/id/965493/][https://www.foxnews.com/politics/strzok-stopped-bureau-from-ending-flynn-probe-despite-lack-of-derogatory-evidence-unsealed-documents-reveal][https://www.foxnews.com/media/brett-tolman-peter-strzok-was-at-the-heart-of-the-trump-russia-storm] The Hill reporting notes from director of counterintelligence on what Strzok said {{tq|"What's our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?"}}.[https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/495401-fbi-officials-discussed-trying-to-get-flynn-to-lie-in-interview-get][https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/michael-flynns-defense-claims-fbi-notes-show-agents-tried-to-entrap-the-former-national-security-adviser/2020/04/29/fbbe0f30-8a67-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html][https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/trump-would-consider-bringing-michael-flynn-back-into-administration.html][https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/trump-hinting-pardon-criminal-friends-flynn-stone.html] [[User:PackMecEng|PackMecEng]] ([[User talk:PackMecEng|talk]]) 20:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
:Your one and only non-opinion, reliable source there (that last Hill article) doesn't even mention the word "Strzok". I have removed several claims here that are not supported by the sources, and per [[WP:BLP]], you may not make unsupported claims about a person, particularly defamatory ones. [[User:NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]] ([[User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof|talk]]) 21:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
:Your one and only non-opinion, reliable source there (that last Hill article) doesn't even mention the word "Strzok". I have removed several claims here that are not supported by the sources, and per [[WP:BLP]], you may not make unsupported claims about a person, particularly defamatory ones. [[User:NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]] ([[User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof|talk]]) 21:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, don't touch my post again. Not a BLP vio and certainly reliably sources. [[User:PackMecEng|PackMecEng]] ([[User talk:PackMecEng|talk]]) 21:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, don't touch my post again. Not a BLP vio and certainly reliably sources. [[User:PackMecEng|PackMecEng]] ([[User talk:PackMecEng|talk]]) 21:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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Why doesn't Lisa Page have her own page?

Both Strzok and Page are most famous for their text messages, and the role they have played in the Russia Collusion investigations by the IC Muller, as well as various Congressional committees.

Yet there is no Wikipedia page for Page, it refers here.

She seems as well known and important as Strzok to the story, why does she not rate her own page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeroXero (talkcontribs) 21:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Page is only notable for this particular story linking her to Peter Strzok. Hence her story can be fully covered here. See WP:BLP1E as the relevant policy. — JFG talk 23:57, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As of 12/2/2019 Lisa Page has apparently become more of a news item on her own: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by AltSyzygy (talkcontribs) 22:28, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Fox News Commentary

Why does this section exist? Should there be sections for CNN Commentary, MSNBC Commentary, NYT or WaPo, etc? Does every article about a controversial political figure contain a section like this? I don't think so ! WBcoleman (talk) 23:51, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why was my edit undone

I added citations referencing the actual text messages and they were undone by Volunteer Marek. A link to primary documentation seems way better than links to news articles *about* the text messages. Am I missing something here? Nweil (talk) 20:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OPR investigation

The FBI OPR investigation of Strzok is highly relevant to his career as an FBI agent.

The data provided is (a) factual, (b) accurate, and (c) sourced.

The primary source for the information is the head of the FBI's OPR. The secondary source is Strzok himself (since he filed the letter as an exhibit to his lawsuit against the Attorney General.

a & b: so what? c: Wrong. It's two WP:PRIMARY sources. Read the link. --Calton | Talk 07:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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New Documents

Looks like some new news with Strzok's involvment on the Michael Flynn case.[1][2][3][4][5] The Hill reporting notes from director of counterintelligence on what Strzok said "What's our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?".[6][7][8][9] PackMecEng (talk) 20:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your one and only non-opinion, reliable source there (that last Hill article) doesn't even mention the word "Strzok". I have removed several claims here that are not supported by the sources, and per WP:BLP, you may not make unsupported claims about a person, particularly defamatory ones. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, don't touch my post again. Not a BLP vio and certainly reliably sources. PackMecEng (talk) 21:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Don't publish defamatory falsehoods again. The source says nothing about who said that statement. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure of a purposed text yet, but this is pretty fresh and something people should keep an eye on. I am sure this article will become popular fairly soon. PackMecEng (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]