User talk:George Ho

I am diagnosed with "moderate autism". I am doing and will continue to do my best to be civil, especially when issues with me are raised, especially by newcomers. If any of my edits is uncivil, please address it, so I will stop whatever is considered uncivil. However, civility is subjective. Even so, I will resist doing something considered uncivil until an edit is decided as civil.

Further note, I relinquished my rights to edit "extended confirmed"-protected pages, so I cannot edit those pages at this time.

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man

An arbitration case regarding The Rambling man has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1. The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)'s resignation as an administrator is to be considered under controversial circumstances, and so his administrator status may only be regained via a successful request for adminship.
2. The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) is prohibited from insulting and/or belittling other editors. If The Rambling Man finds himself tempted to engage in prohibited conduct, he is to disengage and either let the matter drop or refer it to another editor to resolve. If however, in the opinion of an uninvolved administrator, The Rambling Man does engage in prohibited conduct, he may be blocked for a duration consistent with the blocking policy. The first four blocks under this provision shall be arbitration enforcement actions and may only be reviewed or appealed at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. Should a fifth block prove necessary, the blocking administrator must notify the Arbitration Committee of the block via a Request for Clarification and Amendment so that the remedy may be reviewed. The enforcing administrator may also at their discretion fully protect The Rambling Man's talk page for the duration of the block.

   Nothing in this remedy prevents enforcement of policy by uninvolved administrators in the usual way.

3. The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) and George Ho (talk · contribs) are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, each other anywhere on Wikipedia (subject to the ordinary exceptions).
4. George Ho (talk · contribs) is indefinitely restricted from participating in selecting main page content. For clarity, this means he may not participate in:

   1. Any process in which the content of the main page is selected, including Did you know?, In the news, On this day, Today's featured article, Today's featured list, and Today's featured picture.
   2. Any process in which possible problems with the content of the main page are reported, including WP:ERRORS and Talk:Main Page.
   3. Any discussion about the above processes, regardless of venue.

   He may edit articles linked from or eligible to be linked from the main page (e.g., the current featured article) and may participate in content review processes not directly connected to main page content selection (e.g., reviewing Featured article candidates). He may request reconsideration of this restriction twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every six months thereafter.

5. The community is encouraged to review the selection process for the Did you know and In the news sections of the main page. The community is also reminded that they may issue topic bans without the involvement of the Arbitration Committee if consensus shows a user has repeatedly submitted poor content, performed poor reviews, or otherwise disrupted these processes.

For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 05:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man

Interaction Ban Reminder

Hello,

I’m writing to remind you that as a result of the arbitration case that both you and The Rambling Man are prohibited from interacting with each other, barring the usual exceptions. Recently, you posted questions to the election pages of multiple candidates where you indirectly made reference to The Rambling Man. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15) Please note that such comments are not permitted under the interaction ban and further instances will result in a block. Best regards, Mike V • Talk 22:59, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I won't do that anymore for now, Mike. Shall I report this the next time it happens? Or can someone else do it? George Ho (talk) 23:51, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

If you are referring to a violation of the interaction ban, you can mention it another admin once. Otherwise, it would be best to avoid all discussion related to The Rambling Man. Mike V • Talk 23:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Shall I report his attempts to excuse himself to you, Mike? I felt unease when he made indirect references by saying "canvassing". I was prompted to ask questions when mentioned "canvassed". Is this his actions at the questions subpages excusable? George Ho (talk) 00:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

At this point, a warning has been made and I've encouraged him to leave things alone. I think that is sufficient for now. Mike V • Talk 00:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Just wanted to drop a note that, as a result of extensive community discussion and numerous issues, the warning issued above has been overturned. [1] Regards, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 22:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement block

To enforce an arbitration decision and for violating IBAN with The Rambling Man at Talk:2017 (such as the Talk:2017#2017 Manchester Arena bombing section and discussion regarding the "Cholera outbreak"), you have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:35, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	A happy, healthy and peaceful 2018 to you! We hope (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

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The user who started this thread is blocked for sockpuppetry. --George Ho (talk) 02:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Comments by sockpuppet struck. –George Ho (talk) 08:32, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I think I am safe to say that you are unfamiliar with the British legal system, especially when it comes to photographs, so changing the images to 'non-free' when they are out of copyright, would be inaccurate. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

What made you say that above, JimmyJoe87? To prove that your argument unsound, I know that the Edge (magazine) logo (File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg) is unfree in the UK (but free in the US). It was formerly hosted at Commons, but then the UK court ruling found the logo original enough for copyright, leading to a Deletion Request discussion. c:Commons:Threshold of originality#United Kingdom also mentions the logo and considers most trademarks unsafe to use at Commons.

I wonder whether you read this website, which summarizes UK copyright law, which I gave out at FFD. Also, I wonder whether you fully read the full legislation of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. Well... that page is too long to read, so here's the table of contents instead. UK copyright of photographs defined as "artistic works" taken by anonymous works can last longer if first availability is made very late but within 70 years after creation. Of course, that depends on authorship. (I'll explain further at FFD soon.)

I even know that the British government lacks a written constitution, contrary to our written United States Constitution, and that it relies on individual active laws instead. Do you have evidence contradicting my argument please? Thanks. George Ho (talk) 18:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the licence that I used for the images contradicts your argument on my images. Just because you have taken an interest in the Edge Logo, proves nothing as we all have our own interests. 'It depends on authorship' and we don't know who the author was for any of these portraits, so therefore the licence I used was accurate as they are out of copyright in the UK. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts to provide free content. However, the "licence" you provided doesn't substantially refute my arguments. Anyone can change a licensing tag, depending on accuracy of copyright status. I tried my best to convince you, but I figure that you'll disagree with what I want to say about licensing. Anyone else can rebut your licensing claims. Nevertheless, I won't change the licensing tags yet until the results of FFD. I would suggest not to transfer or copy the images yet to Commons while FFD is intact. And please do not try to close any FFD nomination. George Ho (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

PD-URAA means it wasn't published within the US within 30 days actually, as this is what the licence says 'it was first published outside the United States (and not published in the U.S. within 30 days)', so what you just said was wrong. Furthermore the licence I used on the images clearly states: A photograph, which has never previously been made available to the public (e.g. by publication or display at an exhibition) and which was taken before 1st January 1948; or A photograph, which was made available to the public (e.g. by publication or display at an exhibition) before 1 January 1948. So either way the image is covered as we know it was taken before 1948, and if you wish to use the argument of 'How do you know it was released in 1947', then lets go off your theory that it wasn't however it is still covered by 'A photograph, which has never previously been made available to the public (e.g. by publication or display at an exhibition) and which was taken before 1st January 1948', as it is up to the discretion of the NPG on whether or not they release images to the public. There are thousands of images stored on the NPG database that have yet to be released, so because of that I would say that this is the first time the image has been released to the public. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 12:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Template:PD-URAA describes three required conditions, one of them saying, "it was in the public domain in its home country on the URAA date (January 1, 1996 for most countries)". I'll explain more at one of FFD discussions. George Ho (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

In the FFD you mention Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. Now the wikipedia article about this Act clearly states "Essentially, the 1988 Act and amendment establishes that copyright in most works lasts until 70 years after the death of the creator if known, otherwise 70 years after the work was created or published (50 years for computer-generated works)". Well we don't know who the creator was for any of the images in the FFD as they worked as photographers for now defunct companies called Elliot & Fry and Bassano Ltd, both of which ceased to exist in 1962/1963. So according to the act we 'otherwise' have to go off when this photo was created or published and since all the images were taken before 1948, it means that those listed in the FFD are out of copyright since it is more than 70 years since those images were created. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 16:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

The user who started this thread is blocked for sockpuppetry. --George Ho (talk) 02:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Comments by sockpuppet struck. –George Ho (talk) 08:32, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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Hi George, help...

I’ve been blocked from editing and I’m not sure why. Apparently I uploaded some photos that weren’t cleared for copyright, and they’ve been removed. I haven’t uploaded anymore. No explanation yet from anyone...? Clarawolfe (talk) 09:42, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Clarawolfe (talk) 09:42, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

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