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I am at a conference in Philadelphia next week (13 August - 20 August) and may not be able to get to the internet, so consider me on Wikibreak.

The YTMND user template

I have restored it per the German Userbox solution, and put in the redirection to where the template code is now, safe on userspace. Crazyswordsman 03:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hillman/Dig

Hi, you might be interested in this MfD which is a consequence of threats by User:Tim Smith and User:DrL to have me blocked, subsequent to the recent deletion review on CTMU in which we both participated. (I think they have misread the relevant policies.) ---CH 23:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gastrich?=

Bufordhollis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) created Robert Morey.

I deleted the repost, but I don't think this is actually Gastrich. Just zis Guy you know? 08:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Recognition

The Barnstar of Diligence

In recognition of your work in helping to keep Wikipedia free of original research, POV-pushing and vandalism, I award you this Barnstar of Diligence. OzLawyer 16:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acadame North

I respect your opinion but I do not agree, I am not doing this in 'Vanity' as you stated [please view wikipedia's personnel attacks policy] I am writing these articles for Socialism! You would not be here today if the glorious red army did not march in to Berlin in WW2, Do not disgrace Josip Broz Tito his Partisans Freed us! Acadame North honors that! You are acting like a Fascist! Do you no why Capitalism has failed? The League of Communists in Yugoslavia maintained a Orthodox religious community, loyal to god and their nation! Shame on you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Acadamenorth (talk • contribs) 21:26, July 31, 2006.

Responded somewhere, can't remember where. Just zis Guy you know? 11:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you very much for tackling the user who seems to me to have been trying to turn this place into Spankiwankipedia. It was about time someone did. I wish you luck of it as I am not sure he listens, but if it works, then great. JuniorJetKaptain 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(note to self: Fastifex (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log))

Acadame North

I would not call putting the word 'glorious' in an article vandalism don’t worry I am writing user names down so in the event I do get blocked I can send a nice long email. Please don’t give me those links I really don’t care about those policies.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Acadamenorth (talk • contribs)

You might not, others do. I know you don't care about policy, that is why you are a problem. Just zis Guy you know? 13:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsey German image

Hi JzG

Sorry you have been dragged into this stupidity. I will fill you in on the background.

The User “JK the unwise” is a long standing member of the Community Party of Great Britain. This group is characterised by its extreme sectarianism towards other groups on the left. JK has an obsession with Lindsey German. In July 2005 he travelled up to the Make Poverty History Rally in Scotland with a camera and proceeded to take as many pictures of Lindsey German and her partner John Rees as he could possibly fit on his memory card. People thought he was an undercover cop until I explained he was from the CPGB. Please have a look at the history page on the John Rees article to see the image he has been trying to upload for the last year and you will get some idea of JK’s agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Rees_%28UK_politician%29&diff=66274898&oldid=66274544

I do not bother to talk to JK because he is not serious and will simply try and pretend he is being reasonable. All he cares about is posting unflattering images of people whose politics he hates with a passion. It is sad but such is the nature of the CPGB.

Don’t waste your time trying to reason with him. He has only one agenda.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fashion1 (talk • contribs)

Monitoring the article. Just zis Guy you know? 21:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Fast work :-)

I try my best :) — FireFox ^(talk) _{12:29, 03 August '06}

Ready for archiving Just zis Guy you know? 08:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

=Various things

A bunch of things at once:

1) From above: you would be hard- pressed to actually find instances of non-fringe Jewish organizations accusing someone only for criticizing the country No, non-fringe Jewish organizations and/or their supporters first apply a heay coating of rationalizations to explain why the people they're name-calling are just crtiticizing Israel. See "New anti-semitism, a favorite recent rhetorical club.

2) Socfan: it's one thing to conclude that a brand-new user from the same country as a banned user, who only has posted during times that the banned user has been blocked, is not, in fact, the banned user. But it's another thing to use language which is complete bollocks, like I think we all recognise was unfairly tarred with the Socafan brush. One, I'm not convinced; two, it was a reasonable suspicion -- note also his Socafan-like singling me out for "censoring" him, when I was the THIRD editor who had reverted him in the trolling he complained about -- go check the history); three, using loaded anguage like "tarred" is, frankly, insulting. If you want make nice to new editor, try to do so without hitting others in your backblast.

3) Tchadienne: He's evading his ban, posting on my Talk page to drum up support for his edits to The Guardian. Apparently, he believes I'm an enemy of yours AND an admin (I'd also appreciate an immediate unblocking of my account), the latter despite the clear message at the top of the page. FWIW, I think his edits to page are also complete bollocks, so he's going to have to look elsewhere.

Sorry for the multiple subjects.

your opinion sought at WP:LIST talk

I've made a proposal here, and am seeking feedback. Best,--Anthony Krupp 14:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bicycle helmet

Hi JzG. I would like to contribute to the cycling helmet article and make it more neutral. Please do not blanket-revert my edits.Prospect77 15:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome to contribute and I liked some of what you did, but the problem was the removal of too much material, much of it cited, all at the same time; I tired working through it but it was too hard fopr my poor overworked brain :-( I agree that there is a good deal too much opinion there, I suggest we work together to fix that a bit at a time. See you at Talk :-) Just zis Guy you know? 15:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm making big changes, I often do it a piece at a time so people can revert just the bits they dislike more easily. Stephen B Streater 16:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem hewe was a fairly rapid series of such changes which had the effect of completely altering the tone of the article from a sceptical bias (which did indeed need fixing and more cites) to a pro bias, with citations to some very dodgy sources. As far as I'm concerned the scientific method applies: the proposers of an intervention must prove their case. Here, they have not - the predictions from the only type of study to show benefit have never been realised in any real population. The only study ever to show benefit in a real population was another case-control study. The case-control article describes quite nicely the problems with this kind of study. There aren't many areas where I consider myself particularly well-informed, but this is one of them - having had my assumptions challenged, I went out to find out more and now have a collection of a little under a thousand documents of one sort and another, including all the major studies. Just zis Guy you know? 16:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always get very hot in helmets. I look forward to reading up on it all :-) Stephen B Streater 22:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some of my document collection is on a private extranet server, drop me an emu if you want a login. Just zis Guy you know? 23:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking Tchadienne

As the original blocking admin, I'm inclined to remove Tchadienne's block now that he/she's settled down. However, you placed a range block on 4.249.0.0/16, which I would prefer not to remove without your approval. Would you be willing to do so for now? Ral315 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy enough, I was just stopping him evading your block. He does appear to have climbed off the ceiling now, although is still very obviously labouring under a substantial burden of misconceptions. Just zis Guy you know? 17:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JzG. I see that you haven't yet removed the range block you posed on Tchadienne, since Ral315 is for unblocking, and I had interpreted your exchange with Ral as meaning you agreed, could you do it? I would be grateful, and don't think the range is needed anymore, as yourself said. Cheers,--Aldux 15:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will do it, I had assumed Ral was going to. Just zis Guy you know? 15:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Why is linking to Wikipedia from your own website considered spam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.50.86.162 (talk • contribs)

It isn't. Linking from Wikipedia to your own website is considered spam. See WP:SPAM and WP:EL. Just zis Guy you know? 09:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Why are Fair use images not allowed in userspace? Feedyourfeet 20:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a copyright thang. Fair use applies to illutrsting the subject only. There are some people who specialise in this, User:Geni is particularly clued-up if you need a pointer. Just zis Guy you know? 20:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

School accreditation

Please review School accreditation. CaliEd 21:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is important to note that some states require accreditation and have exemption for religious schools, and that exemption is sometimes used by diploma mills. Tim4christ17 removed that cited fact. CaliEd 03:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to Talk. Written neutrally and backed by a decent citation that can go in, as well as his text, which is fair and neutrally stated. Just zis Guy you know? 06:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please review Template talk:Unaccredited. CaliEd 22:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hyles

Vivaldi (talk · contribs · logs) has returned and started making Hyles edits. User removed all notice of the ongoing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Vivaldi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.197 (talk • contribs)

Diffs? Just zis Guy you know? 22:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Church [1], reply to you[2]

Nazi moon base

The humor of Wikipedia having an article about Nazi-related UFO activity, with reference to a book by "Commander X", doesn't escape me, but that's pretty much how any paranormal concept is going to look to skeptical minds. I found more book citations in the Nazi mysticism article, which with the Zundel book and the Serrano and Terziski stuff show that it's not merely one person's theory. Being able to document the marginal as well as the conventional is Wikipedia's strength. Gazpacho 22:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For what value of marginal? We deleted aetherometry. Just zis Guy you know? 22:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think I've adequately separated fact and fantasy? I also added a scholarly source on this craziness. Gazpacho 16:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A delicate issue

How does one approach an editor whose English may be poor, and who appears to be taking material from somewhere (or writing it) and running through a machine translator? This isn't a handful of articles to clean up, it's dozens. [3]. Editor is clearly well-meaning, but none of these are readable English. They look like babelfish results. Fan-1967 22:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think you're doing?

Besides abusing your power, I mean. All I added to the article was the bit about an Indian burn also being called an Indian Bracelet, and the related Indian Necklace. That other crap must have been added by someone else, which you would have seen if you bothered to look. Then you go and (unjustifiably, as you know) protect the page. I think I'll look into who you should be reported to for abuse of power. 70.53.111.162 23:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited content is always a legitimate target for removal. Just zis Guy you know? 06:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Tchadienne

Hello, this user complained to me about your protecting his talk page. I fully agree that some action was needed, and hopefully the protection has communicated that his previous behaviour was improper. However, I do think that leaving the talk page protected for any length of time is a poor solution, as long as Tchadienne is freely able to edit other users have to be able to contact him. I would suggest unprotecting the page, and hope the message has been received. If the previous behaviour continues, then, in my mind, a block coupled with talk page protection would be fully appropriate. - SimonP 00:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Hi Guy. I'm sorry I have to disturb you again (and always for the same story), but don't you think you've exagerated with the blocking of the Tchadienne's talk page? To make an example from my wiki experience, I edit a lot in the Balkans, an area where edit-wars are very common, and there are there quite a lot of users who systematically remove warnings and blocks, without admins finding it such a violation to intervene. I don't ask you to do that, but if Tchadienne decided simply to archive the page, would there be any problem? I must admit I find this dispute on the user talk page quite futile.--Aldux 00:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If he wants tochange accounts that's fine, but he has not been harassed, and he knows it, and selectively removing the exchanges relating to what he has done wrong and leaving the nice messages is simply not on. This is a repeating pattern with this user: tendentious edits, blocks, whitewash the Talk pagfe, move on to a new account, the while playing the injured innocent. Just zis Guy you know? 06:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I waned to insert this at the user's talk but cannot as it is protected. You may if you want to.

"Most users treat their user talk pages like regular talk pages, and archive the contents periodically to a personal subpage — either when the page gets too large, on a regular schedule, or when they take a wikivacation. Others delete comments after they have responded to them.

Actively erasing non-harassing personal messages without replying (if a reply would be appropriate or polite) will probably be interpreted as hostile. In the past, this kind of behavior has been viewed as uncivil, and this can become an issue in arbitration or other formal proceedings." (Wikipedia:Talk pages#Etiquette) --Guinnog 12:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gaza

I have added a number of references to the RfA.

Do you consider the Vatican, Reuters and Encarta to be dubious sources?

Carbonate 01:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No new information. Just zis Guy you know? 08:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happycat RFD

I opened an RFD on Happycat earlier. You may be interested in commenting (or acting) on it. —ptk✰fgs 08:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki "BADASS" Woo Redux

It appears that nothing can convince this user to stop his pattern of tendentious editing, and even that he is rather proud of it (as evidenced by his new sig). Most recently he has recreated an article merged by consensus, behavior for which he has been blocked before. I'd report this to WP:AN/I, but this would likely result in a temporary block and his previous blocks have not resulted in a behavior change. Repeated explanations of WP policies also do not seem to have resulted in him being more willing to follow those policies. I'm convinced a more permanent solution is in order. There was an RFC discussing his behavior back when he was WikiRoo. In your opiniion, would another RFC be appropriate at this time, should this go straight to RFArb or should a third course of action be pursued? There are numerous editors who have tried and failed to resolve problems with this user. JChap T/E 12:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have agreed to advocate for WikiWoo. (See generally User:TheronJ/Advocacy/WikiWoo). Unfortunately, I'm still coming up to speed. If possible, I'd ask everyone to give this several more days before bringing an RFAr or similar proceeding. (I'm also going to ask WW to take it easy during that same period). Thanks, TheronJ 13:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good plan. Just zis Guy you know? 13:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) I can agree to wait. The advice you give him at the advocacy page is good. The best outcome would be for WW to learn to work within consensus, assume good faith and work from sources. As this advice has been given to him before by numerous editors and he has neglected to take it, I am not all that optimistic that it will happen this time, but I am willing to give you a chance to try. JChap T/E 13:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of JunJiDo

JunJiDo 23 unique Google hits for this variant of karate apparently restricted to a single redlinked school. The only mystery is why it suddenly popped up on my watchlist, since there is no sign of it having been deleted before. Just zis Guy you know? 16:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe you nominated this for deletion. Why did you nominate it? How can I get a copy of it? I am following the complex rules for deletion and understand it was nominated. I have read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JunJiDo and it is not clear why it was nominated. If it's not clear for me, how can community consensus of 3 people be taken seriously. Why couldn't I be notified? What does "Delete per nom." mean? I would hardly call 3 people a community consensus. How can a get the content of the deleted information back to rework it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frodoat (talk • contribs)

I nominated it for the reasons stated. You can challenge the deletion via deletion review if you think the cited concerns are fixable. The cited concerns in this case are the lack of reliable secondary sources, the appearance of advertising and the lack of evidence of importance. Just zis Guy you know? 14:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarification of your reasons. I and the community would be able to understand and debate the nomination for deletion when you cite your concern this way. I cannot provide secondary source as this style is new. Advertising was not my intent and the link could have been removed. I am sure new styles of martial arts are important to many people, but maybe this article should be part of a larger article on the growth of new martial art styles. Is there a way to get the content back or is it lost forever? --Frodoat 14:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing is lost forever. If you intend to work on it and build a new article with reliable sources discussing new martial arts movements or some such thenb I will undelete it to your user space where you and your friends can work on it. If it's not actively worked on it may be deleted again from userspace, but something which shows evidence of being under active deevlopment would not normally be nuked. Just zis Guy you know? 15:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I am trying to learn with the little bits of time I have scattered throughout the day. I believe I have created a userpage User:Frodoat correctly. I would appreciate a copy, to work on, being restored there. Thanks again for you help. --Frodoat 13:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job JzG, in explaning the procedure and things that Frodoat needs to know, definitely much quicker than if I were to type it out again! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 15:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re : An AfD close

I have to agree that it doesn't deserve an article on its own, but in strict terms a merge isn't a delete. Considering this the majority votes in deletion stands at about 55%. The best solution, rather than going through the process again, is to simply merge anything slavagable per Uncle G in the AfD debate, and redirect. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 15:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Done that. Just zis Guy you know? 16:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mets501 2

Hi again. Sorry to bother you again but see the two messages on my talk. I replied to Mets on his talk and would like to say something to Tch about not being so uncivil in an RfA. Maybe you could say so on my behalf. I might make a note on the RfA about the questionable good-faith of Tchad's vote too; what do you think? Best --Guinnog 15:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm over there. Just zis Guy you know? 22:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, again, for your support. In retrospect I slightly regret assuming good faith inasmuch as I tried to help him avoid the drop he was clearly heading for, for a day. I knew he had a history, but wasn't personally involved last time around. Oh well, one lives and learns. --Guinnog 23:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you never really can win with that one. I've AGFed on people who have ended up indef-blocked, and I've been suspicious of folks who turn out to be charming and indeed model Wikipedians (yes, Stephen, I mean you). Bugger of a job, sysopping... Just zis Guy you know? 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tendentious editing

User:JzG/Tendentious editing is very good. I would just like to comment to you that while the dictionary definition of "tendentious" is basicly "biased" or POV, both the feel of the word and its use in Wikipedia might suggest to someone who doesn't look up the word that it is as much about tedious repetition as it is about bias. just sayin' WAS 4.250 22:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think I incorporated that, feel free to change it if you think I got it wrong. Just zis Guy you know? 22:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marvin Heemeyer

Would you mind taking a look at this and the talk page? There's an editor there I swear needs whacking with a clue-by-four, and he's starting to get on my last nerve. The article concerns a guy who welded steel-plate armor to a bulldozer and went on a rampage, destroying half a small town in Colorado before blowing his brains out. One editor seems to think he's some kind of folk hero, and keeps trying to insert language to that affect, including {badly sourced) charges that a corrupt municipal government drove this guy to do what he did. American libertarian hoo-hah, don't you know. So is it just me, or is this editor grinding a very large axe? --Calton | Talk 14:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they did, but since they are stiull alive we can't say so unless it can be proven by reference to reliable secondary sources. Just zis Guy you know? 14:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Local newspaper article about folding bicycles

You're interested in the Brompton Bicycle, right? I saw this article in my local newspaper about folding bicycles in the United States, and I thought you might be interested in the article. Apparently, sales here are on an upswing.

I don't think I'm going to leave my mountain bike behind just yet, though. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 14:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks - the picture shows a guy running with a Brom, I prefer to ride them :-) Just zis Guy you know? 16:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Rear_Window_Captioning_System

Did you close this as a speedy keep, or just delete your nomination? --Porqin 19:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bit of both. Just zis Guy you know? 20:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rouge Admins

The cabal is trying to delete the rouge admin category. Your input, as one of the category's creators, is requested. --M @r ē ino 19:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they do I will climb the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man. Just zis Guy you know? 20:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could just go there as an ordinary visitor—saves the trouble of climbing. It’s open daily 0800–0000.[4] Of course, that would be not much of a protest. —xyzzy_n 21:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the fun in that? Just zis Guy you know? 22:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EditGrid AfD

I have added a few external references on EditGrid to demonstrated that it "has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself" in compliance with WP:SOFTWARE (which, as at the current version, no longer mentions the requirement on innovation, incidentally). I believe these should suffice to make the article notable for Wikipedia. Please take a look there again when you have time. Thanks. --Pkchan 15:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed. Just zis Guy you know? 20:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 August 10

Accusations of vandalism for good-faith deletion nominations and plainly in-process deletion, along with copious brand new user involvement, harden my heart Wow, really good reason to retain it's deletion. I suppose you haven't even bothered to READ the evidence that claims that the project exists and is released; by the contrary, of course, if that article is permanently deleted, I guarantee that many other articles such as Duke Nukem Forever which should be deleted under the Exact Same Pretex will also go up for deletion. Ameise -- chat 19:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So I'm a bad person. If the arguments for keeping were not good enough the solution was to bring better arguments, not to get all your friends to come along and make the same arguments all over again. Just zis Guy you know? 20:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They came on their own, I had nothing to do with that; in fact, I told them NOT to make accounts and vote. We have better arguments, however, I cannot stop it if the people who are doing the deleting completely IGNORE mine and other arguments FOR it. There is absolutely NO Wikipedia regulation under which the article should been deleted -- it IS notable (LucasArts, Sony Online Entertainment, Slashdot, etc, all acknowledge it's existance), it IS a released product (released in early July), and it does in fact exist (I think I have proven that). So, as far as I am concerned, anyone who completely denies that those things are true, and continues the deletion process, is in fact a vandal. Ameise -- chat 20:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the people who support the delete, including yourself, have absolutely no arguments in favor of a deletion, except 'it is not notable', which is entirely untrue, and which I have disproved numerous times. Ameise -- chat 20:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Think we haven't it all before? There is no deadline, we can wait until it's at least out of beta. Just zis Guy you know? 22:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the header above. -- ADNghiem501 23:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Email

FYI, I've sent you an email. JoshuaZ 22:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good lord

Look at all the meatpuppets. It kind of reminds me of AfD but not. Whispering^(talk/c) 22:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You callin' me a meatpuppet? Ameise -- chat 23:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope can't say I am. Whispering^(talk/c) 23:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did a pre-emptive semi of your user page, pls revert if you disagree but IMHO it was indicated. KillerChihuahua^?!? 23:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uninterruptible power supply

Where does WP:EL say "don't link personal sites"? --Pmsyyz 00:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal sites are not reliable sources and have no authority. Just zis Guy you know? 09:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That may be true for references, but not External links. --Pmsyyz 17:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair WP:EL does indeed say "Links normally to be avoided ... 2. Any site that contains factually inaccurate material or unverified original research, as detailed in Wikipedia:Reliable sources". However I think the link in question is probably ok for the article. Thanks/wangi 17:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of WP:EL is not to be exclusive, it's to list the things which might be acceptable for inclusion. This is not on the list of things acceptable for inclusion. I like to see a compelling reason for keeping a link to a personal site. Just zis Guy you know? 17:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not exactly a "personal site". [5] says that it's a group work with contributions from many people (not unlike Wikipedia in that respect :-); there's also a disclaimer that opinions are those of the present maintainer, who holds the copyright. Most of it seems to be technical, factual, and useful to readers who need further information. It looks to me to be covered by WP:EL#What should be linked to point 4: Sites that contain neutral and accurate material . . . [which are] copyright [or have] a level of detail which is inappropriate for the Wikipedia article. -- JimR 07:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wavelet.biz

Wavelet.biz should not be deleted

It is an establish project at sourceforge.net, mature and used by more than 100 companies in asia....

check this out http://sourceforge.net/projects/enterprise

cheers

Please check this out ALSO http://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=en&q=%22wavelet.biz%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta= — Preceding unsigned comment added by leehongfay (talk • contribs)

Please remember to sign your posts. Sourceforge is open to everybody, presence on Sourceforge is not evidence of notability. See WP:CORP and WP:SOFTWARE for applicable guideliones; do nto remove AfD notices form articles; writing about yourself or your company is a bad idea. Just zis Guy you know? 09:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Automotive failures afd

A large part of what you removed has been re-added. diff Viridae ^Talk 12:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and I apologise for the horribly typo ridden edit summary. I am cold tired and my brain is numb from trying to work out BLAST. Viridae ^Talk 12:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think those comments aid mature discussion, I've removed them again. Just zis Guy you know? 12:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Wiarthurhu

I've taken the liberty of extending your block on Wiarthurhu to 1 week. I hope this does not come across as critical at all of your actions. I just feel he's gone too far and is testing our patience. Its time for stronger measures to try to get the message across to him. If this does not succeed, I am willing to propose a community ban to remove him from Wikipedia permanently. Best, Gwernol 16:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The guy's being an arse and richly deserves it. Just zis Guy you know? 16:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

destroying content in CMS System review

Please do NOT remove listing from relevent vendors in the CMS comparison lists. You had deleted the entry for ADXSTUDIO, which is a relevent player in the WebCMS marketspace. They attend many CMS and Microsoft tradeshows, are an AIIM member, a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner, and are on all relevent CMS portals. They have been in business for more than 8 years, and have a recent product that is still very relevent to the market. When you delete CMS vendors from the list, you are destroying the value of the content for all other readers.

I also noticed that you deleted ONLY the ADXSTUDIO listing, yet Ektron CMS 400 is also redlinked, but you did not delete them. This leads me to believe that you have ulterior motives and are not using appropriate editorial discretion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shan mcarthur@spamcop.net (talk • contribs)

As you have been told before, linking to your own company's products is considered spamming. Those lists do not include redlinks, only significant products with articles. You have also been told before that removing non-articles from this list is not "destroying content". And you'vebeen told before that edit warring over your addition of content relating to your own company is bad. All in all I can't imagine why you would want to draw wider attention to your actions here. Just zis Guy you know?

Thanks

Hi JzG, I just wanted to thank you for your comments on the talk page of my RfA. NOBS/Tchadienne was really creating problems, and thank you for standing up for me. —Mets501 (If responding, please do so on my talk page) 13:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israel-Lebanon

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israel-Lebanon. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israel-Lebanon/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israel-Lebanon/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 19:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Acadamenorth

Me again. The autoblock has returned after a week or so of not returning. You know the drill. Mad Jack 20:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You really need to either unblock this guy or do something else. It's grossly unfair that I keep getting blocked. I refuse to continue like this. Mad Jack 06:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of personal sub-pages

Reference Sinstar. I thought that personal sub-pages were exactly that - personal.

There were no links to it from article pages - only links were from my talk. So why it was deleted is a mystery to me. What gain except a couple thousand bytes of storage? What is the point? Not that it was an important article, and I probably should have removed myself, but why didn't you get my response 'before deletion?

Incidentally, the article was stored like that since it was a fangirl written piece that resulted in an amazing discussion regarding deletion that ended up driving the writer away from Wikipedia. (My talk with her has also been saved in my talk archives.) She had done a thorough job but the controversy was regarding the nebulous issue of "notability", which had no decent guidance on definition other than consensus. The debate got unnecessarily acrimonious. The article was reasonably supportable and well written. Wikipedia lost a potential enthusiastic editor with clear writing ability over this and I felt it was a example of one of the weaknesses of wikipedia.

wcf Facts are stubborn. Comments?

Looking for Support?

Hi JzG, I noticed you've done a great job keeping up Comparison of content management systems - I am trying to defend a page for a project that I lead, and request your input on the [discusssion]. Thanks for your time. --Spiderr 23:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback requested

At Wikipedia_talk:List_guideline#Criteria Thanks! --Anthony Krupp 00:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please grab me some deleted material

G'day mate, do you reckon you could let us have a squizz at the material that was deleted in this AfD: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Quick_and_the_dead. Don't want to put it up again or nuffin, just got a personal interest in such matters. Cheerz, Drett 03:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/St Christopher

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/St Christopher. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/St Christopher/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/St Christopher/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 13:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar

For being a fair and fearless admin, one of Wikipedia's best and a role model as far as I am concerned. --kingboyk 15:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 13:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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