User talk:WeijiBaikeBianji

Thanks to all of you for the interesting conversations that occur here. Tips from experienced Wikipedians on how to edit better, and on where to find resources for sourcing better edits, are always appreciated. I see other user talk pages have announcements about where each editor will reply to posts. Usually I will reply to your comments to me, posted here, right here on this page. I'll do my best to learn to follow to where you want me to read your posts, and where to reply to them, if you have a differing preference. (Previous messages by me at very top of this page overwritten.) WeijiBaikeBianji (talk)

Accusation of disruption

I suggest you substantiate or strike it. mikemikev (talk) 17:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I suggest you cease posting to this user talk page, and take it up with the usual Wikipedia dispute resolution channels if you want a reality check on your behavior. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 04:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

? As you know I just reported it at Arbcom. I fail to see how 'my behaviour' has anything to do with it. I will continue to post here as your behaviour necessitates, but will quit the well meaning attempt to inform you as you please. mikemikev (talk) 06:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I guess now we can all see what the Arbitration Committee decided about the matter and how that worked out for you. There is no doubt that civil, collaborative editing and referring to quality sources is very important. I'm glad that the dispute-resolution procedures on Wikipedia emphasize those principles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 20:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I'll have to keep an eye on this to get a reality check on things here. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Assessment

Hi - the links i posted aren't actually commercial products. They are free resources about assessment. www.intel.com/education/elements > Assessment in 21st century classrooms is a free course http://educate.intel.com/en/AssessingProjects/index.htm is a free library of assessments anyone can adapt

They're similar to the George Lucas Foundation resources listed on the page?

Thank you, Alison Elmer - 8/10/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlisonElmer (talk • contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a look at those after I take care of some other Wikipedia busyness. Thanks for your reply. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 18:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello again, wondering if you had a chance to look at the links I tried to post? I am new to this, and did not intend them to be "vandalism". They are free online resources that I think support the topic. If they don't meet the criteria, i'll understand and stop asking - but i would appreciate your guidance! Thanks, AlisonElmer (talk) 20:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Alison, thanks for following up on your earlier question. I'm new enough here myself that when we last corresponded, I was working from an informal understanding of what usual practice is here. But now I've learned about the specific page about Wikipedia's external link guideline, so let's look at that together and see how that fits the links that you think will help articles. I'll check some examples I've seen since on other pages and how those compare. Then you and I will be both more consistent with the guidelines in the future as we edit articles. I appreciate you checking to make sure. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

Please do not add inappropriate and unexplained external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Talk:Conscience. If you feel the link is relevant to an article, please explain why rather than just posting the link to multiple talk pages. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I have added the explanation as you requested. I generally add quite a few links to useful information on article talk pages, as in this instance, and that has not been controversial before. Thank you for explaining how the situation looked to you as an editor who watches the article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 14:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, and sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion there. --McGeddon (talk) 12:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

It was quite right of you to check what was going on, and I appreciate the reminder to make my rapid edits more understandable to the other editors who work to keep Wikipedia in good shape. See you around various articles. Keep up the good work. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 14:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

Ok. I'll be back to check! Thanks for the invitation. --Davide41 (talk) 13:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement

Thanks-I'm struggling to find the best balance between "explaining" and "belaboring" :). Professor marginalia (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

LOL. I wish the veterinarians would declare the horse dead so that its grooms can stop flogging the poor beast. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 04:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

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IQ reference chart archiving

About this. Unfortunately its not yet the time to archive the talk page. The thresholds can be read at Wikipedia:TPG#When_to_condense_pages. --Kslotte (talk) 15:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I see you have some specialized interest in such issues. Thanks for the link. Do you read the link as saying it is impermissible to archive before the talk page reaches a certain size, or just that it is prudent to begin archiving once it reaches a certain size? -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 15:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

request for clarification (R/I)

I have made a request for clarification which mentions you. Please find the request here: [1]. aprock (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

you are annoying little creature

you are only 3 months and now an expert?

you go back and teach primary school kiddies math, leave the real world for big peeps doing real job, not little peep job, okie?

bye bye now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbysox89 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I guess SineBot showed me who left this message after you forgot to sign it. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 21:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

And I see you haven't learned yet that any editor of Wikipedia can read your diffs. Take a deep breath, relax, and learn the ways of this community. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 21:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Contact info

I'm surprised at your knowledgeability on behavior genetics- there's a number of things I'd like to discuss with you. Do you have an email I can send to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mannoro (talk • contribs) 22:19, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, good to hear from you again. Yes, Wikipedia's anonymity-preserving (for the recipient, but not for the sender) email link is enabled on my Wikipedia user account. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 22:26, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Where would that be located? Mannoro (talk) 04:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

You may have to expand "Toolbox" on the left side of this page to see a link "E-mail this user." -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 04:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I genuinely don't see it. Clicking toolbox just brings up general options. Mannoro (talk) 00:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't realize I had to validate my email to view your email setup. I sent you a message, but you haven't replied yet. Mannoro (talk) 20:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm I have received that message. Just before you wrote your email, I tried experimenting with surfing Wikipedia as I.P. user (not logged in), and I noticed that that link doesn't even appear. So now I better understand who can email me through Wikipedia. Do you expect to set up a user page? -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 23:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Test and Standardized test

Just a gentle reminder about the idea of merging the test and standardized test articles. mezzaninelounge (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Daniel, I'm just becoming unburied from that other series of articles. While I was looking at how that category was structured, it occurred to me that Test can be a high-level general article, much as Intelligence is among intelligence-related articles, and then Standardized test can be a more focused article, much as Intelligence quotient is. Both articles are quite long and could still grow more. I think the same is true of the two articles you have kindly reminded me about, so I do not advocate merging those, but rather taking each in a distinct direction of development, with sources, to make clear what topic each article covers. I picked up some new sources this weekend that should help with that editing process. See you on the articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 22:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

That may not be a bad idea. Have you looked at educational assessment? I am not sure if I understand the purpose of that article. It seems to overlap with the other articles and lacks specific examples. mezzaninelounge (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Rescue

• Stupidity (AfD discussion)

It's certainly rescuable. And it would normally be the sort of thing that I'd take on, just to show that it could be done. I did Loyalty (AfD discussion). But I have my hands full with Baptist articles. So be aware that this is probably on your shoulders, since you've volunteered in the AFD discussion. I'll just leave you with a few more sources. I recommend Greenspan2008 as apparently a fairly good overview of the state of the formal literature on the subject, albeit that unlike several of the others xe doesn't mention Loewenfeld's work. Uncle G (talk) 01:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

wikithanks

thank you for your kind note. --dab (𒁳) 07:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind note. Some of these articles need copy-editing. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:58, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

MZMcBride

Not that it matters, and not that there aren't great reasons to oppose his RfA, but I don't think the r&i arbcom case and the BLP arbcom case involving MZM are remotely equivalent. For one, the motivations of the 'involved' parties are diametrically opposite (agendas versus the good, if misguided, of wikipedia). Just noted your oppose and have been very impressed by your approach and demeanor in the r&i case so thought I'd bring this up. (So don't take this wrong way!) --RegentsPark (talk) 02:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for stopping by. I'm still learning here, so I'm glad to hear that perspective. Seeing what you said there was weighty to me, as I have been impressed your posts on issues wherever I've seen them. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Joanna Krupa

Could you better explain why you made this edit? I don't see what's wrong about the Huffington Post source, if that's what you were getting at... Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 03:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

That's a source that is (correctly) not considered a reliable source for biographical details about living persons. The whole general class of sources called self-published blogs has that problem for biographies of living persons— see the WP:BLP policy for more details. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 04:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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Reviews of and commentaries to Lynn and Vanhanen

• Differential Intelligence and National Income. A Review of IQ and the Wealth of Nations

E Miller - Journal of Social, Political & Economic Studies, 2002

• IQ and the wealth of nations: Review

SM Barnett, W Williams - Contemporary Psychology, 2004

• IQ and the wealth of nations. A critique of Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen's recent book

T Volken - European Sociological Review, 2003 - Oxford Univ Press

• IQ and the wealth of states

S Kanazawa - Intelligence, 2006 - Elsevier

• A systematic literature review of the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans

JM Wicherts, CV Dolan, HLJ van der Maas - Intelligence, 2010 - Elsevier

• The dangers of unsystematic selection methods and the representativeness of 46 samples of African test-takers

Intelligence, Volume 38, Issue 1, January-February 2010, Pages 30-37 Jelte M. Wicherts, Conor V. Dolan, Han L.J. van der Maas

• IQ and Global Inequality, R. Lynn, T. Vanhanen. Washington Summit Publishers (2002). 400pp., $17.95, Paper, ISBN: 1593680252, ISBN-13: 9781593680251.

Journal of Economic Psychology, Volume 30, Issue 1, February 2009, Pages 111-112 Randall K. Filer

• Raven's test performance of sub-Saharan Africans: Average performance, psychometric properties, and the Flynn Effect Original Research Article

Learning and Individual Differences, Volume 20, Issue 3, June 2010, Pages 135-151 Jelte M. Wicherts, Conor V. Dolan, Jerry S. Carlson, Han L.J. van der Maas

• Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, IQ and global inequality , Washington Summit Publishers, Augusta, GA (2006) (Pp. xx+400), ISBN:978-1-59368-025-1 (hard cover) 978-1-59368-024-4 (paperback).Intelligence, Volume 36, Issue 6, November-December 2008, Pages 731-732 Michael A. McDaniel

• Black Intellectual Genocide: An Essay Review of IQ and the Wealth of Nations. Berhanu, Girma, 2007 Education Review. ; 10:6

• Do you have to be smart to be rich? The impact of IQ on wealth, income and financial distress, Intelligence, Volume 35, Issue 5, September-October 2007, Pages 489-501 Jay L. Zagorsky

• Prediction of national wealth Intelligence, Volume 34, Issue 5, September-October 2006, Pages 449-458

Deborah L. Whetzel and Michael A. McDaniel

• A long-term rise and recent decline in intelligence test performance: The Flynn Effect in reverse. Personality and Individual Differences, Volume 39, Issue 4, September 2005, Pages 837-843

Thomas W. Teasdale and David R. Owen

• The geography of IQ, Intelligence, Volume 36, Issue 6, November-December 2008, Pages 495-501

Garry A. Gelade

• Evolution, brain size, and the national IQ of peoples around 3000 years B.CPersonality and Individual Differences, Volume 48, Issue 2, January 2010, Pages 104-106

Jelte M. Wicherts, Denny Borsboom and Conor V. Dolan ·Maunus·ƛ· 01:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Step two is seeing how much Lynn's views are taken up in any of the standard reference works on IQ. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

The preprint for A systematic literature review of the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is online, and it presents some good reasons to be skeptical of Lynn's work. I like this quote:

For instance, Lynn and Vanhanen (2006) accorded a national IQ of 69 to Nigeria on the basis of three samples (Fahrmeier, 1975; Ferron, 1965; Wober, 1969), but they did not consider other relevant published studies that indicated that average IQ in Nigeria is considerably higher than 70 (Maqsud, 1980a,b; Nenty & Dinero, 1981; Okunrotifa, 1976). As Lynn rightly remarked during the 2006 conference of the International Society for Intelligence Research (ISIR), performing a literature review involves making a lot of choices. Nonetheless, an important drawback of Lynn (and Vanhanen)'s reviews of the literature is that they are unsystematic.

II | (t - c) 02:22, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it appears the data-gathering for that book was remarkably poor. I found a website with lots of article .PDFs that helps to spread the literature around. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 02:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

And I see that Wicherts's academic website has links to several interesting and useful articles for editing Wikipedia articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

The IQ Controversy, the Media and Public Policy

Hi, I made a query about the use of sources in this article at WP:NOR/N.--Victor Chmara (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Benoit

Hi Weiji,

Since you removed the tags from Benoit, would you please supply the proper stress? — kwami (talk) 22:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

(PS. In words like pliocene which do not actually have 2ary stress, we haven't been transcribing it. American dictionaries tend to use secondary stress marks to show a vowel isn't reduced, not because it's actually stressed, whereas the OED does not. As a rule of thumb, there is no word in English which has 2ary stress after primary stress, because 1ary stress is final stress, while 2ary stress is non-final stress. See Ladefoged, A Course in Phonetics, §5.4 "Degrees of Stress")

I've checked sources. I thought most French words don't have distinctive stress. Sure enough, my Merrian-Webster Webster's New Biographical Dictionary, which generally (but not always) gives English pronunciations for all the surnames it contains, shows no stress on either syllable of that surname. The name is not an entry in the Cambridge pronouncing dictionary. I personally happen to have a two-syllable English (Norse-derived) surname that's really without a stressed syllable, although the Cambridge dictionary treats the most nearly analogous common noun as having primary stress on the first syllable. P.S. Just saw your P.S. about syllable stress. Where is a talk page about those IPA conventions on Wikipedia? I'm familiar with Ladefoged's writings, but one thing I notice about them is how often Ladefoged disagrees with other authors. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 23:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

I've seen quite a few people quote L on that.

English lexemes have stress. If your dictionary doesn't have it, it only means the dictionary is inadequate. Our transcription is still wrong as is. I'll have to answer the other ? later. — kwami (talk) 00:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

In this case (based on other entries I have found in the same dictionary), it probably means that the lexicographers who compiled the dictionary found that most speakers of English pronounced the name in a French manner. (There are Spanish surnames in that dictionary that similarly have transcription appropriate only to Spanish, not to English.) I am rather more persuaded by the Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary editors (and the cast of thousands who agree with them) than I am by Ladefoged about the issue of notating primary and secondary stress on English words. But, yes, Ladefoged is a good read precisely because he lets you know exactly how he feels. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 00:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I doubt monolingual English speakers can pronounce a name without stress. It just doesn't happen in English. It's either BEN-oyt, ben-OYT, or be-NOYT. If it doesn't have an English pronunciation, that's another matter, and we should remove it altogether.

As for French words, you're right, they don't have distinctive stress in French, but they do in English. In the US people tend to assign final stress, while in the UK they tend to have initial stress.

Dictionaries vary on this, as linguists do. If I remember right, Chomsky & Halle posited 2ary stress as you do, but Kenyon only allowed it before 1ary stress, as IPA for English does. The OED takes the latter approach, Random House the former. So if my dictionary uses the Random House convention, I can drop it without any loss of information, but if it doesn't, then it would be OR to add it in. Thus since we want to be consistent, it's better not to indicate post-1ary 2ary stress. This is covered in the examples at IPA for English, with note at fn [21], which has been there for several years. (I don't remember and can't locate the original discussion at this point.) — kwami (talk) 00:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I'll check the footnote--thanks for pointing me to the specific place. I'll probably leave some of the other entries in the Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_nonstandard_pronunciation for other editors then, and stick with the less fussy cases. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

No, don't do that! Much better to have a minor discrepancy between the transcription and the key than nothing at all, or some of the truly confusing transcriptions in those articles. I've got an AWB bot to automatically delete post-1ary 2ary stresses in English IPA templates, which is how I noticed this in the first place. It's just a matter of when I next scan the 11,000 articles with those templates. (It's been a while. This time I got 700 hits, though almost all for other errors such as illegal vowels: is "/a/" supposed to be /æ/ or /ɑː/, etc.) — kwami (talk) 01:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

History of the race and intelligence controversy

The two new books by Tucker you cite at the R&I talk page have been used at the above article - if you have just read the books, you are in a good position to read over that article and ensure that they are (1) accurately represented and (2) made very good use of

Best, Slrubenstein | Talk 17:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I thought only one of those books was cited there, but I'll check again. I've not read that article line-by-line yet, but I have encouraged Victor to follow up on Mathsci's drafting there with his editing, and in turn I'd like to look it over as it goes through more edits. What I took greatest note of on that article, on David's suggestion, was how the citations are set up so that there are page-specific notes and a general bibliography for the whole article. I like that citation format so much that I hope to adopt it for many other articles. See you on the various articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 18:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Research

Thanks for doing active research on Tucker, et al. I hope you'll share more of the fruits of your efforts with the project, but you've already helped. If everybody just moves the marker forward to the extent they can then a topic improves, even over hundreds or thousands of edits. (Of course there has to be a ratchet to keep the progress moving forward.) Hang in there.   Will Beback  talk  11:11, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Will, thanks for your kind words. I find that different kinds of work require different kinds of working conditions. For articles that have already gone through dozens of edits, what is desired is what is called "manuscript editing" in the business, and that's a different process from turning a stub into a longer, better-sourced article. So I've first of all been expanding stubs (or article sections) for which I happen to have an abundance of sources. But the several articles that you and I both watch are due for extensive manuscript editing, and user Aprock has suggested that usually the least disruptive way to do that, if several other editors are watching, is to propose article section rewrites in article talk page sections. I'll try that out for some of the more contentious articles and see if that helps. All that kind of thing has to take second place to my paid work off-Wiki, but I'm glad to see that a lot of editors share a vision of continually improving Wikipedia so that it is by far the world's best English-language encyclopedia. A diff I saw yesterday[2] reminds us what conscientious editors are up against here. -- 15:20, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

IQ malleability

You cited Kaufman's IQ Testing 101, pages 220-222, as a source for the claim that "IQ is believed by many to be immutable". I think this claim is a straw man at least as far as actual IQ researchers are concerned. Even "hard hereditarians" like Jensen and Rushton would not argue that. I don't have Kaufman's book, so could you give me a direct quote from it on who actually believes that IQ is immutable?--Victor Chmara (talk) 12:33, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I encounter people every day who think that IQ is immutable, but to be sure they are not experts on the subject. Might it be better to cite some of the sources you have at hand to emphasize the point that the experts are (almost entirely) united in saying that IQ can change over the course of an individual's lifetime, and has often been observed to do so? That would involve restructuring that paragraph (to which I would have no objection at all), and perhaps that will allay both of our concerns there. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 20:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

The whole section about IQ malleability is pretty much worthless, because it relies on random primary sources whose results are of unknown significance instead of discussing the topic on a more general level using reliable secondary sources. I'd like to know what Kaufman has to say about this, so if you have the book, could you please cite it for me?--Victor Chmara (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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WBB-No, sorry, I am no expert, I was just frustrated by the PC element of even the professionals writing in the field. I read in the 1970's that race could be determined after death, so I linked those links to the (in my opinion) biased "Human" sites in Wiki. I don't know if you are a major player, and able to make significant changes, but comparing IQ is more silly than comparing height of races, height can be quantified! IQ on the other hand will change based on culture and environment. Any race today would score differently on an IQ test than that same race, say 300 years ago. It is simply different thought processes and information are more important and available. The same is true across cultures. (And if you are going to adjust the test for the time-period, you'd need to adjust for the culture.) There are lots of references about Humans being alike or different that are emotionally based (again in my opinion) even from experts. I'd recommend removing cultural and personal and other more subtle cultural distinctions from these articles. My recommendation is distinguish by measurement, and if you can't, let it be. Sorry for the rant, but I noticed that the gait of many people in Asia was more side-to-side than other peoples I knew, and wanted to read about it, and any competitive advantages it had, and I ran straight into "we are all identical," and "IQ nonsense." Just to annoy some more, the interbreeding arguement for the "everybody's the same" proponents for unquantify-ability of traits, annoyed some more. What are we, dogs? I am sorry I don’t belong to any wikicommunities, and certainly don’t have the expertise, other than that of your run-of-the-mill researcher, to comment on anthropology, but I think the wiki-anthro-community should develop some rules and scrub this topic. The first rule of course being, if it can be measured regardless of perspective (bone shape, muscle wear, cavity size), keep it, otherwise throw it out-or at least put it in a social or secondary role. Some people may want to know the physical differnces between race in an unqualified, unbiased, and metered way. Thanks for hearing me out.GESICC (talk) 22:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)GESICC

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Thank you for all of you hard work. I've been watching your edits. futurebird (talk) 05:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I've been dismayed by some of the sources I have been reading that I didn't previously know about, but it's better for me to understand the world I grew up in. I understand that you are very busy with your studies currently, but I hope I'll see you on some of the same articles as you find time. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 22:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Assessment with Wikiproject: U.S. public policy

Thank you for assessing with the PPI, assessing with this project will probably be different than assessing with other projects in Wikipedia. It's different because the many of the articles are stub, start, or C class, and we are not working to assess long lists of articles, but will have multiple reviewers assessing the same set of articles. We are looking for Wikipedians who want to take a more in depth look at assessment and help define what is article quality. Please go to the WP:USPP Assessment page to find more details and your assessment page with the first group of articles for you to evaluate. Thanks and happy editing, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 21:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive Conclusion

GOCE September 2010 backlog elimination drive progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks to all who participated! Several of our top editors were called away to real life concerns during the month (be careful out there, people!). This meant that once again, we did not meet all our lofty targets, but we did come close. Stats Out of 76 registered editors, 45 actively participated. We nearly wiped out the 2008 articles from the backlog—there were only 13 remaining when the drive closed. We reduced the backlog by 725 articles (11.5%), so it was another successful drive. A total of 59 barnstars will be awarded to 40 editors—well done, and congratulations to all. Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you edited in the July 2010 GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive, you may have earned rollover words, which counted towards this month's barnstars (except for the leaderboard awards). Any unused word credits will be held over for the next drive, as long as you participated in the September drive. Over the course of the next week or two, we will be handing out the barnstars. Click here to see a list of barnstar winners. We will be holding our next drive in November. You can sign up here. A huge "thank you" to all editors who helped clear the backlog and to others who helped out behind-the-scenes. See you at the next drive, and until then, please continue to help us work through the backlog. Happy editing! Coordinator: ɳorɑfʈ Talk! Co-coordinators: Diannaa (Talk) and S Masters (talk). Newsletter by Diannaa (Talk) and The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions.

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Roger Pearson edits

Look, you saw my documentation of the changes I made to the Roger Pearson. Regardless of whether the "talk" was in the wrong place, you had no right to willy nilly throw them out. If you have a problem with anything I have done, ask me about it first. The existing article was a smear job and I think you know it.Teddyguyton (talk) 10:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your post here. I have seen no evidence whatever that the article as it was before you encountered it (which is largely as it was before I first encountered it, a few months ago) is a "smear job." It may be that some of the statements in the article (which are just about all cited in detail to reliable sources) still need some refinement. The usual place for discussing improvements to articles is on the article talk page, as I mentioned to you, knowing that you are a new editor here. The main basis for changing article text is a sourced rationale for changing the text that is already there, a rationale that would persuade editors of any point of view. Most of the 6,823,580 articles on Wikipedia could still be improved by referring to more and better sources. If your particular interest is in the article Roger Pearson, the way to promote change in that article is to refer to what all the various sources about his life say and how they jointly provide evidence for what should be in article text. Laudatory sources are not preferred over critical sources, nor are sources by the subject of the biography preferred over sources by observers of that person's life. See WP:BLP for links to most (but not quite all) of the relevant Wikipedia policies. Note that by any reasonable definition of "public figure," Roger Pearson is a public figure under United States law. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 19:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Who likes to read and understand sources?

Here's a general question for anyone who happens to watch my talk page: do you like to read and to think deeply about reliable sources on some difficult subject? If so, I'd love to discuss with you what some of your favorite sources are. What makes those sources good-quality sources? What Wikipedia articles do you edit on the basis of those sources. A rather odd experience I have on Wikipedia is asking people for suggestions of sources frequently, but only occasionally hearing such suggestions. I'm sure that there must be Wikipedians who cherish learning about and using good sources, so I'd like to hear more about that. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I've just been looking at goals announced in the Wikimedia strategic planning process. It occurs to me that improving content quality will have to involve finding and using better sources for most Wikimedia projects, so again I will ask who likes to look up good sources. Let's discuss how we can use better sourcing to build better content. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 17:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

PPI Assessment Follow-up

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji, recently you signed up to help with assessment on Wikiproject: United States Public Policy. This project is probably different than other assessment drives you have worked on, it involves more assessment of lower ranked articles, it has input and staff from the foundation, and specific goals to improve and measure content of public policy articles. It also involves collaboration from some university classes, we are using an experimental assessment rubric, and most articles will be assessed by multiple reviewers to get a range of scores for each article. It's a lot to digest, and totally understandable if it's not what signed up for. However, there are also some exciting perks to this project: 1) your assessments are part of research that is attempting to increase credibility of Wikipedia in academic circles, 2) there is a great group of assessors involved in discussion of what is article quality and how to measure it, 3) WP:USPP is also piloting the Article Feedback tool, so those involved in assessment on the project will be asked to help improve and rate this tool as well, 4) subject matter experts are assessing articles alongside Wikipedians and comparisons of results will provide some insight as to the rigor of Wikipedia quality rating, and 5) other interesting benefits you will find with participation.

The first group of articles requesting your assessment has been posted. I was hoping to do a preliminary comparison of the data on 8 October 2010. The second assessment request, which is part of the same comparison, will go out about the same time. To help with organization, if you haven't posted any assessment scores on your assessment page by 8 October 2010, I will delete your assessment request and you will not receive further requests. I hope the unusualness of this assessment research does not discourage your participation; if you are not interested working in the research I hope you will continue to assess articles within the project. If possible let me know on my talk page if you don't wish to be a part of the research, or perhaps if there was some confusion or bad communication; what the public policy team, and I, in particular, can do to make it more positive for volunteers. Remember, I am new to Wikipedia and trying to learn the best way to research this project, to hopefully integrate the amazing resource that is Wikipedia onto more university campuses and classrooms. Thanks, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 22:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify October 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive

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WP:USPP, still interested?

WeijiBaikeBianji, you signed up to assess with WP:USPP. If you are interested in public policy or assessment, check out your assessment page, because there is a lot happening on the project. Most of the recruitment for the assessment team was targeted, so I know you have a lot to offer to the research goals of this project. I posted the second assessment request and there will now be a weekly update on the project assessment page. If you are no longer interested in working on this project, I promise this is the last message you will get, but I hope you decide to check it out. Regards, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 01:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Audiology Online

Why is audiology online an unreliable source. And why is Jack Katz an unreliable source. This is ASHA based dolfrog (talk) 22:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for the compliment. I'd be glad to see and discuss whatever sources you come up with. Thanks again! Cosmic Latte (talk) 16:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

November copy edit drive

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue. Sign-up has already begun at the November drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page. Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants, some of which are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive! — The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

Meetup

In the area? You're invited to the
May 2018 Minnesota User Group Meeting
	Date: 31 October 2010
	Time: noon
	Place: Midtown Exchange Global Market, East Lake Street, Minneapolis, Minnesota 44.9493°N 93.2612°W / 44.9493; -93.2612

Cool. R.S.V.P. on the announcement page. This will be my first meet-up. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 16:18, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement

A thread concerning your involvement in the race and intelligence dispute has been started here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#WeijiBaikeBianji -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 10:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)