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No no. I'm not that Dear87 of ru.wiki and sh.wiki. I changed my name just because I wanted to do an unified login, and Dear87, as for ru and sh.wiki, is busy. Ok?--Matthew Riva (talk) 10:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, may be you are not that Matthew Riva who once been caught adding {featured list} to 'lists that have not successfully completed a featured list candidacy?')) Listen, quite frankly, I don't care who you really are. Just stop fiddling with these 30STM articles, ok? -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No. Here [1] I didn't know candidate the 30 Seconds to Mars discography. I'm not the one of sh.wiki and ru.wiki.--Matthew Riva (talk) 16:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And who was that, your ghost?) - Evermore2 (talk) 08:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. But it's sure, I'm not that Matthew Riva.--Matthew Riva (talk) 18:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Russian language novelists

Thanks for the additions. I hope you'll do some more. I removed the two plays you listed for Aleksey K Tolstoy because dramatic works are listed on the List of Russian language playwrights. The List of Russian language novelists is for works of fiction. You might also want to check out the List of Russian language poets. Many of the writers are featured on more than 1 of these lists, along with their corresponding works in that particular genre. Your help would be valuable on all 3 lists. BTW- The Ivan Chonkin book cover pic might end up being removed because of the copyright status. -- I NEVER CRY 02:06, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you, and for correcting my mistakes, too. I'll try to be of service, although my English-as-a-second-language resources are rather limited. Intriguing lists, these, even if of a slightly mish-mash quality: classic writers rubbing shoulders with latter day nonentities is somewhat jarring :) -- Evermore2 (talk) 08:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is a bit jarring , but I guess its a question of space and convenience. You should see the List of Russian people. It's pretty impressive.-- I NEVER CRY 09:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. GreyHood Talk 11:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Felix Ziegel

RlevseTalk 06:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Sorry, it was just a case of 'bad timing' on my behalf. Now the file is in the article and I think it's quite essential. -- Evermore2 (talk) 08:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all. - The reason why I thought this image was not replaceable at all was that its an image not just of a person but of a scene from a theater production that's expired 40 years ago and won't (under any condition, apart from such that would employ some voodoo practice) be restored in its original version, ever. In other words, it does illustrate (as far as I am concerned, anyway) not a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created, but something quite different. Of course, theoretically one could begin a search for the author of this very image (in order to obtain some kind of permission, - via séance, apparently) and devote the rest of one's life to this commendable cause, but this 'one' won't be me, for sure) -- Evermore2 (talk) 08:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry. Tagged it. -- Evermore2 (talk) 07:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mirra Lokhvitskaya

The Lokhvitskaya article is very impressive. I hope you don't mind my working on the article's grammar and wording. I also retouched the portrait at the bottom of the page.--I NEVER CRY 23:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I went through the whole article, and this quote, from the beginning of the article, is the only thing I had a problem understanding:
"Ever since Fet not a single poet has managed to shape up one's own audience in such a winning fashion" (Danchenko)
The phrase "shape up one's own audience" is confusing. "One's own" would usually be "their own" or just "their audience". "Shape up" is strange, and suggests "build" or even "draw", in the sense of building an audience, or drawing an audience's attention.
I've changed it to:
"Ever since Fet, not a single poet has managed to take hold of their audience in such a way"

This is easily understandable to an English reader, and seems like a reasonable alternative. Either way, it's a great article.--I NEVER CRY 04:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you, and I think your version is perfect! Your help in any of the articles I started/expanded (think of Gippius, Merezhkovsky, Balmont, Vysotsky, Vertinskaya, Demidova and, last but not least, Felix Ziegel) would be very, very welcome. I tend to struggle a bit, you know, when it comes to grammar and style. -- Evermore2 (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Evermore2, thought I'd tell you that you do really outstanding work! Lirika filosofskaya (talk) 16:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate this:) -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Ziegel

I got rid of the orphan tag by linking Ziegel to several lists. I also added some cats and templates.--I NEVER CRY 19:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. And thank you very much for a Barnstar! -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Russian Barnstar of National Merit  
For your extensive work on Russia-related articles.--I NEVER CRY 20:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Curved Air

Hello, Evermore2. You have new messages at Martin IIIa's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ivan Bunin

I polished up the Bunin article, which is really great btw.--INeverCry 23:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It (the Bunin article, that is) needs, apparently, some kind of Critical response/Legacy type of section, but here I don’t even know how to begin, feels like unsurmountable task. ...And what you do is quite fantastic: such a gallery Russian literature figures, some of them forgotten, - with texts much better sourced than their ru_wiki analogues - sheer brilliance! -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To get an idea for what you could do for the Bunin article, you might want to take a look at the legacy section of Anton Chekhov's article, as it's a featured article.

In regard to my articles, I do my best and write about the authors that I'm interested in. I wish I was as good with Russian as you are with English- I could get a lot further. I currently rely on translation software for any Russian sources. I've started studying, though, and so far I've learned the alphabet and some common words. I've only been at it for about a month, so I've got quite a ways to go.--INeverCry 23:08, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That’s extraordinary. Well, if the ability to create big things with little means is the criterion of one’s artistic worth, then you’re a real artist! :)
…As for Chekhov – some food for thought here too. You see, both the article and its Legacy section for an untutored Russian eye look – how shall I put it – ascetic. In ru_wiki self-endulgent monumentalism is much in vogue, as represented, say, by Balmont and Demidova FAs, both, incidentally, of my own making… Problem with Bunin, though, is that Soviet sources are obviously biased and difficult to plod through, you know, what with having to sift all the ideological nonsense away. And post-Soviet sources have somehow failed to come up with the goods… With one exception, probably, of Oleg Mikhailov (who was a Soviet scholar, of course, and) whose 2001 book on Bunin I think I’ll have sooner or later to target.
…And, as I see now, Chekhov’s Legacy theme is something I could help expanding too – although not necessarily in the major article, but by starting a series of short stories’ entries where some biographical details could fit in. -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Back Street Luv

Meant to drop you a note saying thanks for creating this article and getting it up to such an impressive start. I had actually been thinking about asking you if you thought we had enough info to make a decent article for "Back Street Luv", so it's nice to see you were three steps ahead of me! The article already looks in good shape(though I'm still hoping Sonja will let something about the inspiration for the lyrics slip during an interview). Also, I wanted to ask about what seems to be a copy-and-paste error. At the end of the citation for Allmusic, you have "…It’s also one of the crucial singles of the early 1970s." If this isn't an error, could you explain to me what its purpose is? I've never seen anything like it in a citation.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!.. During an interview... - you mean, for Cherry Red? Don't think she mentioned it there.No, you've meant apparently, any interview, so - never mind.Incidentally, what I, personally, am even more intrigued by is the inspiration for "Melinda (More or Less)" which Sonja once mentioned was about a real girl and which to me sounds very much like a ghost story.
As for the citation, it goes on like this: "Of course it <The Second Album> was always dominated by "Back Street Luv," which isn't simply one of the band's own finest moments, it's also one of the crucial singles of the early 1970s". For some fleeting reason <having to do, aparently, with brevity> I chose to tear two fragments out of it and saw nothing wrong with this, frankly. Although now I wonder why - the phraze might be safely quoted as a whole. Anyway, feel free to change it whichever way it feels right; looks like everything you do is for the better. -- Evermore2 (talk) 08:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply, but you misunderstood... I think the way you used those two fragments from the review works well in the article; the part I was wondering about is that the line I quoted is enclosed within the citation itself, rather than as part of the article's prose. I've never seen that done before, so I was wondering if it was a mistake.--Martin IIIa (talk) 01:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cursed Days

Another contribution to the DYK project, thanks Victuallers (talk) 22:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! -- Evermore2 (talk) 11:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bunin template and category

Check these out:

Template:Ivan Bunin
Category:Novels by Ivan Bunin --INeverCry 17:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that’s great! Think next week I’ll be able to come up with at least some sort of Bunin's Legacy section. And I wonder if you'd like to critically inspect A.K.Tolstoy article and see if anything there might be wrongly put, or spelled or whatever? -- Evermore2 (talk) 13:15, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I figured you'd like the Bunin template. I made templates for all the Russian writers who seemed to require them, considering the number of their works with articles written on them: Template:Alexander Pushkin, Template:Maxim Gorky, Template:Mikhail Lermontov, Template:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Template:Mikhail Bulgakov, and Template:Ivan Turgenev.

It's great that you've made A. K. Tolstoy a real article. I tried to expand it, but there are virtually no English sources on him. Adjusting grammar for the article will be no problem. The same goes for any other articles you do.

There are some other major writers whose articles could really use your help, the most important one being Ivan Goncharov. I've done some work on Aleksey Pisemsky, but, again, biographical info is scarce in English. I've had the same problem with other major writers: Alexander Radishchev, Yury Olesha, Nadezhda Teffi, and Mikhail Zoshchenko, to name a few.--INeverCry 16:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AK Tolstoy for me is easily the most likeable character in the whole of the Russian literature, a true maverick. And whatever they'd say about Gogol and Pogorelsy influences, it's him, as far as I am concerned, who was the godfather of Russian horror story (if there was indeed such a thing for the genre, sadly, remained underdeveloped - with Russian realism, apparently, stealing it's beat, what with life horrors there being around aplenty). Most certainly, I'll try and do something for article on Ivan Goncharov, too. Of whom AK Tolstoy not long before his own death spoke as of the only decent guy left in the Russian Literature Premier League (not sure about terminology, though). Which for me is good enough reason to do him some service :) -- Evermore2 (talk) 12:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A. K. Tolstoy

I've gone through the A. K. Tolstoy article and made the needed grammatical changes. This article may very well be the best bio of A. K. Tolstoy in English. I haven't seen anything nearly as good or as detailed from any other source.--INeverCry 21:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What you say (and, actually, do) is so very encouraging!.. <Awfully sorry for my late replies. Looks like I've slipped into some kind of spontaneous semi-retirement, which will last, hopefully (that is, if long-term weather forecasts for Moscow will prove right :) for another couple of weeks.> -- Evermore2 (talk) 12:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated A.K. Tolstoy for good article status.--INeverCry 18:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work, indeed! GreyHood Talk 14:14, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Really good work, (that goes for Greyhood and INeverCry too)-- amazing actually! Wikipedia doesn't know how lucky it is that you are volunteering. Lirika filosofskaya (talk) 04:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Bunin nomination

I've also nominated Ivan Bunin for good article status. (I went through the "Legacy" section and made the necessary corrections)--INeverCry 20:50, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thank you! -- Evermore2 (talk) 15:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
...and for Lidia Charskaya too! I've written the one on Vasily Nemirovich-Danchenko and wondered if that was not a case of 'crossing your road' as it were, for the two appear to be dangerously close in my 'personal' Top 20 (at the bottom of this page). Should we perhaps coordinate efforts? My nearest target would have been Dmitry Gorchakov, but perhaps you've already plans on him?) Or do you think what I/we should do next is concentrate on answering potential questions on the GA rewiew pages? Frankly, I've rather a vague notion of the procedure - in ru_wiki there's this teeth-grindigly boring 'why-this-is-not-according-to-that sort of bickering that goes on and on for days on end)) - so I very much hope you won't leave me there without your helping hand. -- Evermore2 (talk) 15:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added a nice portrait and an English translations section to the Vasily Nemirovich-Danchenko article. I'll go through it soon. My to-do list for the near future is a possible nomination of Mirra Lokhvitskaya, a clean-up and eventual nomination of Konstantin Balmont and Vladimir Vysotsky, and maybe a few small articles on Russian women writers. I looked at your "top 20"; I already searched for English language sources on Gnedich, Markevich, and Surikov, with no success. As for the rest of the list- Chekhov's friend Ivan Shcheglov is interesting, as one of his novels The Dacha Husband is available in English in a high-quality translation. Others that I've thought of doing small articles on in the future are: Viktor Bilibin, Ivan Gorbunov, Daniil Mordovtsev, Alexander Sheller, Alexander Skabichevsky, and Ivan Volnov. I would help with any articles you do as well.

Then we're on our separate, but parallel lines. I'll do Gnedich, Markevich, and Surikov, but first - Gorchakov and also Vasily Belov, Ivan Sokolov-Mikitov and Viktor Likhonosov, since they've 'reddened up' so the AKT legacy section. Lokhvitskaya, I think, is quite comprehensive, Balmont is slightly less so, but I could easily expand any section or open new ones, if needed. Vysotsky's a tougher proposition (some parts of it are unsourced and original research-looking) but anyway, why not give it a try. That would be immensely important job (and, of course, I'll be around should you need anything checked via Russian sources) since - there is a school of thought he's almost as essential for both the Russian language and the understanding of Russian psyche as Pushkin. <Opinions on this are violently divided and, frankly this in itself attests to his greatness, for at the heart of detractors' argument, I think, lies the utter disbelief as to how could someone half-Jewish prove to be more-Russian-than-most, of his contemporaries, anyway). -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm familiar with Belov and Likhonosov, as they have works that have been translated into English. There are English sources available for Vysotsky and Balmont, which should atleast allow me to provide back up refs.--INeverCry 17:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to work with you on improving articles on major writers like Ivan Goncharov, Nikolai Leskov, and Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin, and other well-known writers like Alexander Bestuzhev-Marlinsky, Aleksey Pisemsky, Fyodor Sologub, etc etc.

Certainly! I'm especally glad you've mentioned Leskov, one of my all time personal favourites. All in all, looks like an effective tandem is beginning to take shape)) -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Leskov is the best known of these writers (in English translation), mostly for Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk (one of my favorites) and Lefty. Shchedrin is still somewhat known for his story How a Peasant Fed Two Officials and for The Golovlyov Family. Sologub's The Petty Demon is still read, while Marlinsky and Pisemsky are just personal interests of mine. I have a collection of Leskov's satirical works with a detailed introduction that should help with his article, and I have several sources on Shchedrin.--INeverCry 17:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be here for the reviews. I just think that if Anton Chekhov is a "featured" article, than Tolstoy and Bunin, and probably Lokhvitskaya are atleast "good".--INeverCry 17:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my newest article: Maria Shkapskaya --INeverCry 23:20, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Again, she's someone not very well known in her home country, and your article is better than the Russian one. Good job! -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Generally I try to do articles on writers who have works in English translation. Shkapskaya comes from an Oxford anthology of Russian women's writing that I have.--INeverCry 17:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vasily Nemirovich-Danchenko?

I uploaded this pic from a volume of tales in English translation here, labeled as Peasant Tales of Russia by Vasily Nemirovich Danchenko. The pic here is only labeled as V. I. Nemirovich Danchenko, and a full name isn't given anywhere in the book (which is stupid when you have 2 brothers with the same initials).

I'm really not sure in looking at the pic whether its Vladimir Nemirovich-Danchenko or Vasily??? It looks like Vladimir to me, especially when compared to the portrait I put in Vasily's article (taken from ru:Немирович-Данченко, Василий Иванович). Tell me what you think.--INeverCry 05:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are quite right. What they certainly have in common are facial hair and dressing habits. Otherwise, several things (no spectacles, shape of head, the poise) point at this being Vladimir. But that's very interesting and I think I might as well consult some people from ru_wiki on that.-- Evermore2 (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of the early English sources on the brothers Nemirovich-Danchenko leave me doubting whether they knew there were two seperate men, or which was which.
Two white spots on the man's lapel contain the clue: they appear to be Order of Lenin and Order of the October Revolution. According to ever helpful Triumphato (the one, incidentally, who's done a lot to the ru_wiki Balmont article, especially in its decorative aspect) the portrait might have been made by a certain Litvin (?) a year after Vladimir Nemirovich-Danchenko's death. -- Evermore2 (talk) 13:32, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the original image is signed "Litvinov 1944". I wondered about this when I uploaded it, seeing that the book itself was published in 1917. It looks like someone glued this pic into the book later.--INeverCry 17:15, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW- I love words like Консультация, which are nice for me as they are English words spelled in Russian. This means that I already have a somewhat sizeable Russian vocabulary. ;) But words are easy, it's the verbs, adjectives, and syntax that are hard.--INeverCry 18:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if this might go some way in helping learners of Russian in their plight :) -- Evermore2 (talk) 13:32, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ю́лий Алексе́евич Бу́нин

I was wondering if you had any plans of doing an article on Yuli Bunin? --INeverCry 01:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have none. And you?) -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to do an article on him if I can find a source or sources for biographical info. We'll see.--INeverCry 17:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New pic of Vasily Nemirovich-Danchenko


I added this to the article. I'm not sure about the date, except to say that it's a 19th century photo, but my guess is circa 1880, as he looks like he's in his mid 30s.--INeverCry 17:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template for A.K. Tolstoy

Template:Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy --INeverCry 20:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gorchakov

The beginning of the 2nd paragraph in the biography section of the Dmitry Gorchakov article says:

"In 1979 Prince Gorchakov rejoined the Russian army as a volunteer"

I don't know the correct year...

I added a portrait and infobox, etc.--INeverCry 23:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Yes, the year was totally wrong, now I've changed it. -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:45, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nominations

I've nominated your article A Common Story for Wikipedia:Did you know to be featured on the Main Page - see Template:Did you know nominations/A Common Story. If you could also create the article about An Uncommon Story (Goncharov memoirs) that would be really nice hook.

That would be a trickier task, for it doesnt feature in any of the Complete collections as far as I know, but still I'll do some research, and who knows. -- Evermore2 (talk) 15:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The book indeed is a bit of a rarity, but a detailed analysis of it is available, with more than enough data. Think I'll do it next week. --Evermore2 (talk) 14:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also I've nominated another your article, Stepan Shevyryov, and it was promoted - see Template:Did you know nominations/Stepan Shevyryov.

You could make such nominations yourself if you like. Featuring on the MP could give your articles many thousands of additional views. GreyHood Talk 15:38, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! -- Evermore2 (talk) 15:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another one: Template:Did you know nominations/Dmitry Khvostov (poet). I'm going to vacation soon and will be absent from Wikipedia for about 10 days, so please watch for this nomination template and the Goncharov one (there could be some issues which need to be fixed, but nothing serious likely, since the articles are very good). Also note the talk on Khvostov. Cheers! GreyHood Talk 17:42, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okey! I've expanded Khvostov, so as to make it look more or less complete. Every possible help in terms of style and, possibly, grammar, will be, of course, very welcome. -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:32, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As for the 'move'-suggestion, I've left my support, of course, but am not sure what the procedure will be: should the Dmitry Khvostov page be made a disambiguation one? And wouldn't it be better to move the 'suffering side' to Dmitry Khvostov (basketball player)? Being quite a dork in such matters, I'd rather keep myself away from trying to sort this one out myself :) -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:32, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Stepan Shevyryov

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deletion review for Wizard (American band)

Usually if I speedy something I'm more inclined to undelete in article or userspace if you ask on my talk. If you want to let the DRV run its course then by all means let it do so, but I am willing to restore to userspace as while yes on second glance it does have a claim but I'm not entirely sure it'll pass AfD. Alexandria (talk) 13:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sure, if you are ready to restore it, I'd remove my DRV bid, if that's what you mean. Sorry for failing to go to your talk page first - its just that my being-speedied-exprience up until now has been somewhat limited) -- Evermore2 (talk) 14:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]