::Neither do you need to be a fan to copyedit articles, to clean up, or to wikilink. [[The Girl in the Fireplace|Hell, you don't even need to be a big fan to write articles]]. But Scrubs is a bad example because about 75% of those articles were merged. Still, the Family Guy and Simpsons projects are much, much worse, and I haven't seen him helping out there. If he wanted to establish precedent, he should've gone for a cult show such as ''The Wire'', not record-holding series such as The Simpsons and Doctor Who or series with large fanbases like Lost or Family Guy. He shows no interest in balancing his image nominations with textual cleanup. In short, it's hard to think of him not as a SPA (or even a DPA; until recently, he only edited Northern Irish football articles and DW images) when his activities suggests the contrary. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 13:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::Neither do you need to be a fan to copyedit articles, to clean up, or to wikilink. [[The Girl in the Fireplace|Hell, you don't even need to be a big fan to write articles]]. But Scrubs is a bad example because about 75% of those articles were merged. Still, the Family Guy and Simpsons projects are much, much worse, and I haven't seen him helping out there. If he wanted to establish precedent, he should've gone for a cult show such as ''The Wire'', not record-holding series such as The Simpsons and Doctor Who or series with large fanbases like Lost or Family Guy. He shows no interest in balancing his image nominations with textual cleanup. In short, it's hard to think of him not as a SPA (or even a DPA; until recently, he only edited Northern Irish football articles and DW images) when his activities suggests the contrary. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 13:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Either way, you need to ease up on the accusations. I know you well enough to know that you end to get uncivil when you are getting emotionally involved in a debate. Calling people liars and accusing them of wikilawyering - which you have done with me - is wrong no matter how you look at it. Either you are wrong and look the blockable clown, or you are making a [[WP:SPADE]] argument. You need to step back and regain some composure before returning to the discussion. There is no need for the incivility, as it not only fails to convince folk of your point of view, but tends to cement opposition. As an admin, I am sure you have seen that time and again. - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 17:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Either way, you need to ease up on the accusations. I know you well enough to know that you end to get uncivil when you are getting emotionally involved in a debate. Calling people liars and accusing them of wikilawyering - which you have done with me - is wrong no matter how you look at it. Either you are wrong and look the blockable clown, or you are making a [[WP:SPADE]] argument. You need to step back and regain some composure before returning to the discussion. There is no need for the incivility, as it not only fails to convince folk of your point of view, but tends to cement opposition. As an admin, I am sure you have seen that time and again. - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 17:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::::He gets few deleted. It's more evident with the nominations around last Christmas. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 10:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
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Greece and Epirus, Kosovo Vandalism
I had written some real facts about Greece, Epirus and Kosovo.
Greece facts proven by BBC and CNN reports.
Epirus facts true from many years, reported by historian and discovered in a research in 2005.
Kosovo is INCORRECTLY spelled, since It's populated with Albanians, it IS THE RIGHT OF ALBANIANS TO NAME IT, and it's real name is KosovA!
I'm very dissappointed with your service, you are unable to verify real facts and just remove what you think not true, I want to contribute but in this circumstances it is IMPOSSIBLE!
Dodona is back , in fact i have been around , i came to apologias specially to you because i feel guilty somehow truly , we had a Besa and i broke it because i though you were just misleading me ( and you were somehow..) . I truly i am no matter if decide to release my account or not ...Any way i think also you had a role in my blocking.Could this situation change?? you need another hand to improve Arvanites without me the view would be mediocre
HI
I have one comment and one suggestion. This picture is typicall irredentism, nationalism and propaganda. I suggest this picture should be deleted. They who support this picture claim something that is irrelevant such as EU membership (lol) but in fact they use this picture for something different, spreading away the idea of San Stefano Bulgaria and some kind of non natural, non historical and non cultural or linguistical unification. Please chek it and if there is possibility delete that picture. Regards--MacedonianBoy (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, you could ask the users to change the context in which they use the picture. I don't see a reason why it should be deleted besides the fact that you obviously don't like it. How they use the picture is pretty much irrelevant to the picture itself. --LaveolT 19:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Or we could just allow them to keep it so that I can throw WP:AGF out the window. Judging by this "patriot"'s edits, and the fact that he is a member of VMRO-BND, I'm just going to discard anything he says. I don't think you ever denied my identity, Laveol, so don't try defend him, please. BalkanFever 00:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you understood me wrong - the picture was created by User:TodorBozhinov and created in good faith, believe me. The fact that other editors use the picture in another context is not a problem of the uploader. --LaveolT 07:13, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Umm OK, but what exactly was Bozhinov's point? Where's this userbox he's meant to be using it for? BalkanFever 09:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it was something about the European integration of RoM, but I have to say I'm guessing more or less since Todor has not made a lot of edits for a year or more now. --LaveolT 13:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So, wait, if I understand this right, a self-proclaimed "fighter (keyboard warrior?) for United Macedonia" is accusing people of irredentism? Riiiiiiich. (talk about ahistorical as well) 3rdAlcove (talk) 23:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I can't really speak about the article, I haven't looked at that situation at all. What brought me to your page was the images. They definitely need a lot of cleanup. Fut.Perf.☼ 15:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please check the edit history of the editor who has taken an interest in this article, in fact, any article, seemingly that I have written or edited. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Sorry, but which other editor? – Incidentally, as I was clicking on your edit history, I came across your most recent edits regarding the images on Linda Finch. I'm afraid you can't use those two, they are obviously replaceable. Fut.Perf.☼ 03:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have searched for other images of Linda Finch and cannot find any. If you locate some I would think that would bolster your argument. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Read the rules: non-free images can't be used if a free image exists or could be created. It is not necessary that one is already easily available. With living people, the default assumption is that you could always go and create one. Those cases get deleted as a matter of routine. HTH, -- Fut.Perf.☼ 18:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are actually suggesting that an image be created. Go on, tell me more. Bzuk (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Username
Yours is by far the best username I've seen on wikipedia. I had to tell you. — MaggotSyn 13:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FYI
That guy on Bulgarians is back: [2] Someone else made two edits after his revert so it will be hard to undo his edits. Khoikhoi 21:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Proper removal of Yot classified by you as hoax
If you removes this Yot across wikis, please don't sacrifice other letters. Because of this, please don't revert, but please only delete relevant Yot entries from text. Otherwise good part of mixed edits of this users consisted from approved letters plus disapproved Yot vanishes. This is not good to sacrifice many for little. 58.211.93.132 (talk) 09:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are banned, stay away. And your other additions about stigma, heta, sho and all the rest are so full of errors and inaccuracies much of it has to be removed anyway. At least stop meddling with languages that you can't understand. Your articles about "heta" on the other wikis, which you all created by blindly copying text from the respective "eta" articles and just exchanging the letter names, are total nonsense. Give it up, or you'll soon be banned on ever wiki of this project. And stop using those silly open proxies, who do you think you're kidding? Fut.Perf.☼ 10:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We have an emerging problem with this anonymous editor:[[3]], ex, comment titled FACK YOU GREEK. I am not sure about you, but his/her language seems quite unacceptable. Politis (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pls look hier and the user page to. Danke--Raso mk (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Future Perfect at Sunrise
I hope you are doing fine.Long time we do not talk.Can you please check this guy out Gkmx (talk). His edits have been very disruptive lately. Starting with [4] naming Albania in Macedonian language, WP:POINT violation,3RR violation,ofending and not respected Wikipedia policies. I tried to find consensus with him, but it did not work.
So,I am reporting him to you.Please help, and thank you.--Taulant23 (talk) 05:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reason to ban any editor when he or she is trying to reach a compromise. I have been edit this page for more that a year. I do respect all the policies in Wiki. All I asked was that a consensus to be reached before we edit or revert anything. I am Albanian and I know the history of my country. Besides Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, which have left their cultural mark in Albania, no Serb have left neither cultural mark nor any ruins. They did not build anything in Albania.
Greeks, Romans, Byzantines (Bulgarians=???, Serbians=???) It’s a bogus sentence.
Anyways have a great day.--Taulant23 (talk) 21:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fasach
I said "SK2, especially iii". Feelings about NFCC aside, you can't deny that Fasach Nua has a horrible record for getting Doctor Who images deleted (and half of the ones that do get deleted get overturned at DRV). After seven months, I feel he is creating a chilling effect and flogging a dead horse more than he is helping. I also stand by my view of him being disruptive - if you drew a Venn Diagram of "images Fasach Nua has nominated for deletion" and "Doctor Who images listed for deletion", there would be a lot of images in the middle - seriously.
And seriously, you have a lot of gall to call me disruptive, even when the only thing I've done wrong is not agree with him and you. You can get away with saying that to a relatively new user, but not to me. Sceptre(talk) 12:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's what's wrong with Fasach. He has no interest in helping the DW project other than nominating images for deletion. Also, about 90-95% of the images he nominates for deletion are Doctor Who images - not Battlestar Galactica, Scrubs, Lost, et cetera. And I probably would've voted weak delete for the image had he not voted for it, but I cannot hypothesize what I would've done when the image is deleted. Although, given Tony/Anticipation/Jenny's vote, I would've swung to "weak keep" instead. Sceptre(talk) 13:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And it's not NFCC8 which is the problem, it's his interpretation. NFCC8 is a horribly worded clause in any case. Sceptre(talk) 13:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neither do you need to be a fan to copyedit articles, to clean up, or to wikilink. Hell, you don't even need to be a big fan to write articles. But Scrubs is a bad example because about 75% of those articles were merged. Still, the Family Guy and Simpsons projects are much, much worse, and I haven't seen him helping out there. If he wanted to establish precedent, he should've gone for a cult show such as The Wire, not record-holding series such as The Simpsons and Doctor Who or series with large fanbases like Lost or Family Guy. He shows no interest in balancing his image nominations with textual cleanup. In short, it's hard to think of him not as a SPA (or even a DPA; until recently, he only edited Northern Irish football articles and DW images) when his activities suggests the contrary. Sceptre(talk) 13:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Either way, you need to ease up on the accusations. I know you well enough to know that you end to get uncivil when you are getting emotionally involved in a debate. Calling people liars and accusing them of wikilawyering - which you have done with me - is wrong no matter how you look at it. Either you are wrong and look the blockable clown, or you are making a WP:SPADE argument. You need to step back and regain some composure before returning to the discussion. There is no need for the incivility, as it not only fails to convince folk of your point of view, but tends to cement opposition. As an admin, I am sure you have seen that time and again. - Arcayne(cast a spell) 17:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He gets few deleted. It's more evident with the nominations around last Christmas. Sceptre(talk) 10:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Caspian blue / Appletrees
I encountered problems with Caspian blue(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·page moves·block user·block log) along the lines of the usual Japanese-Korean psychoses. I want to state clearly that I am not Asian myself and was merely attempting a clean up of contentious topics that divide the two nations. I would say that I encourage fairly fierce gaming to deincentivize me from editing from the individual and others with similarly good grounds for prejudice and similarly poor discussion skills ... or at least unwilling to discuss rather than edit war.
Casually browsing the Wiki, I discovered that Caspian blue was previously Appletrees(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·page moves·block user·block log) and that similar J-K issues has arisen under their previous account. Looking at the account, the history has been removed making this harder to gauge.
I noticed that you had been dragged into before. I am wondering about the ethics of erasing histories in this manner, why did it happened and was it right? Are they accessible somewhere else I do not know about? The two accounts appear to have been used simultaneously but I am new to this so I am not sure.
File:718missysmiley2.svgPu-hahahahahaWell, I've assumed that Furf. already figured out my renaming per the latest discussion at Talk:Liancourt Rocks. I believe that Rleves already figured out on me. There is no "two accounts" of me as you alleged. I changed my name via Wikipedia:Changing username per Wiki policy unlike your block evasion as insisting to use the blocked account of User:Documentingabuse. So this sockpuppeter with Japanese ISP who was indefinitely blocked by admin Rleves for his/her sockpuppeting/edit warring (5RR, 13RR), block evasions, bad-faith SSP filing while his block sanction. tries to again false accusation on me? You're not still banned , this malicious behaviors can't be tolerable.
Japanese-Korean psychoses?? You are still making personal attacks on me. How mature you're. For Furf, who does not know what the anon are saying, I summarize his argument.
has been indefinitely blocked and has the deep grudge against me?
You removed chunks of information without pre-discussion or any consensus over several Comfort women-related articles. Several editors called your edit as "white-brushed removals for pro-Japanese purpose". Therefore many other editors including several administrators reverted your edit to the original.
I once reverted your edit and gave several warnings to your edits
Then you poured out personal attacks against me at my talk page.
I removed your craps, then you reverted my talk pages 4 times with increased personal attacks.
I gave you 3RR warnings and WP:NPA warnings, and reported you at AIV for your personal attacks and vandalising my talk page.
Then, you falsely reported me to WP:ANI because I would eventually report you at WP:AN3 which is gaming the rule by the anon's definition.
Instead, the anon who violated 3RR were blocked for your violation filed by another editor who viewed the fake report.
One day later, the anon appeared to do the same thing as even violated more than 8RR at the time I witnessed the absurd edit warring with User:Blueshirts
More absurdly, the anon reported the other's 3RR violation as if the anon did not violated 8RR which were more exceeding Blueshirt's reverts.
So I reported the anon's 8RR violation, however meanwhile, the anon kept reverting and falsely accused me and the other did violated 3RR (I did not even edit the article and the other 5 people reverted one or two times)
The anon even violated 11RR and blocked along with Blueshirts.
Now the anon even evaded his block sanction, then still did not stop his revert campaign, so blocked by Rleves.
Then the anon appeared another anon, and then even created sock account Documentingabuse
The sock account filed fake SSP files on my name as alleged that I and the other 5 people are all meatpuppets because he is righteous and the others are all pro-Korean, pro-Taiwanese, Chinese, or whatever.
Rleves took the case, and closed it quickly "bad-faith file by sockpuppeter" but confused the anon with some Canadian sockpuppeter. Then he indefinitely blocked the account.
I also filed RFCU file on him, then Thatcher confirmed the anon's block evasion.
The sockpuppeter still keeps appears as dynamic anons, and then blames me mostly, because I'm a Korean, so might be pro-Korean unlike him being non-Asian, so that he/she is neural (holy cow!)
The anon calls Rleves's mistake and called him a liar and demands to lift his blocked account several times.
However, like his/her saying, even if the anon is no related to Canadian sockpuppeter, his block evasions, fake SSP filing, breaches on 3RR violations do not go away.
I think the indefinite block is proper decision. Due to the anon, the page has been semi-protected.
Well, Furf. you're indeed bothered to deal with the childish anon's false complaint. I'm sorry for your trouble, but I think the anon should keep blocked. If you need related links, just let me know. Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 04:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. However, the anon is very persistent, so Rlevse and Thatcher have his/her periodical visit ever since he/she was blocked. -_-;; Rleves is considering unblocking him due to his persistent request and regard to a second chance. That is FYI.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"No Bactrian abecedary has been found to date. Greek letters have numeric values based on their alphabetical orders. It is conceivable that SHO could be identified with the archaic Greek letter SAN, which has a value of 900; but no Bactrian text with that number has been yet discovered. SAN has not been separately encoded in the UCS, although its descendant, SAMPI, has been. (SAN looks rather different from SAMPI, and it is possible that it should be encoded as well for purposes of representing archaic Greek text, in the same way that ARCHAIC KOPPA and KOPPA have been disunified.) If SHO were identified with SAN, it should be ordered – alphabetically – after PI (80) and before KOPPA (90)."
This source had minor error of assigning 900 to San - marked by underline in citation - which San because of placing it between Pi and Qoppa, must have correct value 90. 161.200.255.162 (talk) 13:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
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POV pusher and vandal!
Hi Future. How are yow? Here are two, but I suppose one and the same unregistred, annonimous POV pusher and vandal, who writes from two different IP-s :85.103.254.227 and 195.174.21.72. He repetidly deletes chapters from Turkish people and texts from Turkic peoples and denies to talk with other editors anywhere - on his talkpage or on the talkpage from the articles, or to explain his strange behaviour. Only blind reverts, even against Britannica. Please help! Regards! Jingby (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I saw the following in my watch list:
deleted "Image:Location Nagorno-Karabakh en.png" (content was: '{{ifd|log=2008 July 2}}' and the only contributor was Gulmammad)
Here it says the only contributor was Gulmammad but this shows there was another contributor as well who didn't sign his comment or possible his sign has been removed. And also, as it was stated in {{ifd|log=2008 July 2}} the image is useless. I thought the right place would there but you recommend to be discussed in commons. Please would you help me with indicating the link or something like that as I couldn't find it. Thank you. GülməmmədTalk 00:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the enquiry. Sorry the automatic edit summary was a bit confusing. I didn't delete the image, which I can't technically do, as it is on commons. I only deleted the local description page, which consisted only of your IfD tag (that's where you were the "only contributor"). Since the image is on commons, there's no use tagging or discussing it here on en-wiki. You need to go to commons:Image:Location Nagorno-Karabakh en.png. If you want to propose it for deletion there, you need to use "{{delete|your reason}}" and then follow the instructions to create a discussion page similar to our IfD. Fut.Perf.☼ 06:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
picture is typicall irredentism, nationalism and propaganda. I suggest this picture should be deleted. They who support this picture claim something that is irrelevant such as EU membership (lol) but in fact they use this picture for something different, spreading away the idea of San Stefano Bulgaria and some kind of non natural, non historical and non cultural or linguistical unification. Please chek it and if there is possibility delete that picture. Regards--MacedonianBoy (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
